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This is rich. I guess we will have to remove women as teachers in all of our schools eh? etc ..and remember girls...the Christian concept of marriage - as is espoused by the words of the (traditional) marriage ritual (that some here advocate elevating above the legal (civil) definition - is the woman as the property of the man..."to love and obey" - Isn't that right now?
excerpts:
Can Women Govern?
Can Women be: Preachers, Elders, Teachers, Governors, Magistrates, Generals, Presidents, King and other such like positions, high or low, ruling over mankind?
the uncompromising clear Biblical answer is: NO
woman was created FOR the man, (and not the other way around as we see implemented today) to be his helper as stated in Genesis: And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. (Genesis 2:18) The woman was meant to be the help meet for him, not his controller, nor his peer. A helper, by definition, cannot be superior to the one he helps, nor his equal. If the grammar is true, it is clear that the woman only exists in function of man, i.e. without the man there would have been NO reason for woman to exist. Can anything be plainer?
Woman was made for the man as his helper, not his equal, nor his governor, indeed he is the controller and her head: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. (1 Corinthians 11:3)
how can we possibly establish women over men, both in the church and in the world? and still maintain the Precepts of God, Impossible
This concept is also repeated in the New Testament by these famous verses (much distorted, if referred to at all, by modern expositors): 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived; but the woman, being deceived, was in the transgression. (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
We note:
Woman has to learn in silence, this means she is to learn, which, by default, excludes her from teaching, and in quietness as pertaining to a person in subjection,
not allow a woman to teach. This confirms the point above and below. The word "teach" (didasko) in the Greek means:
To teach
Keep a discourse
Instruct others
Impart instructions (govern)
Be teachers
Instil doctrine in others
Explain, expose theories, ideas,
In this it is clearly deducible that to teach it is also to govern.
nor to usurp authority over the man, This means that woman cannot have authority over man, in any circumstance, and if she does she usurp the God given role of headship given to man,
but to be in silence, her submissive role reiterated,
for Adam was first formed, then Eve, The first reason for the woman submission to the man is here stated by the creation order and the functional positions confirmed, going back to Genesis, as explained above, (Adam being first formed and the head)
And Adam was not deceived; but the woman, being deceived, was in the transgression, The second reason (again referring to events in Genesis) as to why the woman is subjected to the man and the prohibition for woman to teach is because the advice she gave to Adam caused him to err and thus the whole human race was plunged into sin, that is another reason why woman cannot teach or rule.
even as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives to their own husbands in everything. (Ephesians 5:24)
Another area hardly mentioned is the 10th Commandment: You shall not covet your neighbour's house; you shall not covet your neighbour's wife, or his male slave, or his slave-girl, or his ox, or his ass, or anything which belongs to your neighbour. (Exodus 20:17) In this we see the wife being listed with the belongings of the neighbour, a thing that will horrify both democracy and the feminists and very many weak men, and yet the concept of possession is clearly stated in the single sentence of the 10th Commandment. Is the 10th Commandment done away with the advent of democracy? Is God mocked?
excerpts:
Can Women Govern?
Can Women be: Preachers, Elders, Teachers, Governors, Magistrates, Generals, Presidents, King and other such like positions, high or low, ruling over mankind?
the uncompromising clear Biblical answer is: NO
woman was created FOR the man, (and not the other way around as we see implemented today) to be his helper as stated in Genesis: And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. (Genesis 2:18) The woman was meant to be the help meet for him, not his controller, nor his peer. A helper, by definition, cannot be superior to the one he helps, nor his equal. If the grammar is true, it is clear that the woman only exists in function of man, i.e. without the man there would have been NO reason for woman to exist. Can anything be plainer?
Woman was made for the man as his helper, not his equal, nor his governor, indeed he is the controller and her head: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. (1 Corinthians 11:3)
how can we possibly establish women over men, both in the church and in the world? and still maintain the Precepts of God, Impossible
This concept is also repeated in the New Testament by these famous verses (much distorted, if referred to at all, by modern expositors): 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived; but the woman, being deceived, was in the transgression. (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
We note:
Woman has to learn in silence, this means she is to learn, which, by default, excludes her from teaching, and in quietness as pertaining to a person in subjection,
not allow a woman to teach. This confirms the point above and below. The word "teach" (didasko) in the Greek means:
To teach
Keep a discourse
Instruct others
Impart instructions (govern)
Be teachers
Instil doctrine in others
Explain, expose theories, ideas,
In this it is clearly deducible that to teach it is also to govern.
nor to usurp authority over the man, This means that woman cannot have authority over man, in any circumstance, and if she does she usurp the God given role of headship given to man,
but to be in silence, her submissive role reiterated,
for Adam was first formed, then Eve, The first reason for the woman submission to the man is here stated by the creation order and the functional positions confirmed, going back to Genesis, as explained above, (Adam being first formed and the head)
And Adam was not deceived; but the woman, being deceived, was in the transgression, The second reason (again referring to events in Genesis) as to why the woman is subjected to the man and the prohibition for woman to teach is because the advice she gave to Adam caused him to err and thus the whole human race was plunged into sin, that is another reason why woman cannot teach or rule.
even as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives to their own husbands in everything. (Ephesians 5:24)
Another area hardly mentioned is the 10th Commandment: You shall not covet your neighbour's house; you shall not covet your neighbour's wife, or his male slave, or his slave-girl, or his ox, or his ass, or anything which belongs to your neighbour. (Exodus 20:17) In this we see the wife being listed with the belongings of the neighbour, a thing that will horrify both democracy and the feminists and very many weak men, and yet the concept of possession is clearly stated in the single sentence of the 10th Commandment. Is the 10th Commandment done away with the advent of democracy? Is God mocked?
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