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  • Re: War in The Middle East

    Whose War?


    It's kind of a long article but a good one. I didn't want to copy and paste the whole thing.

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    • Re: War in The Middle East

      Originally posted by skhara
      Whose War?


      It's kind of a long article but a good one. I didn't want to copy and paste the whole thing.
      Very interesting and light-shedding article. I kept googling the names Feith and Wurmser (the neocons) and came up with this site RightWeb that actually profiles major players (individuals, organizations, corporate and government) and their affiliations and connections.

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      • Re: War in The Middle East

        For those interested in the technical aspects of modern warfare.

        DEBKAfile Exclusive: American electronic warfare experts in Israel to find out how Hizballah’s Iranian systems neutralized Israeli EW

        August 23, 2006, 3:18 PM (GMT+02:00)

        DEBKA-Net-Weekly 266 first drew attention to Iran’s heavy EW investment and its successful functioning in the Lebanon War on Aug. 11, 06. This first account will be followed up in the next DNW issue out on Friday, Aug. 25.

        The American EW experts are interested in four areas. 1. The Israeli EW systems’ failure to block Hizballah’s command and communications and the links between the Lebanese command and the Syria-based Iranian headquarters. 2. How Iranian technicians helped Hizballah eavesdrop on Israel’s communications networks and mobile telephones, including Israeli soldiers’ conversations from inside Lebanon. 3. How Iranian EW installed in Lebanese army coastal radar stations blocked the Barak anti-missile missiles aboard Israeli warships, allowing Hizballah to hit the Israeli corvette Hanith. 4. Why Israeli EW was unable to jam the military systems at the Iranian embassy in Beirut, which hosted the underground war room out of which Hassan Nasrallah and his top commanders, including Imad Mughniyeh, functioned.

        Until the watershed date of July 12, 2006, when the Hizballah triggered the Lebanon War, Israel was accounted an important world power in the development of electronic warfare systems – so much so that a symbiotic relationship evolved for the research and development of many US and Israeli electronic warfare systems, in which a mix of complementary American and Israeli devices and methods were invested. In combat against Hizballah, both were not only found wanting, but had been actively neutralized, so that none performed the functions for which they were designed. This poses both the US and Israel with a serious problem in a further round of the Lebanon war and any military clash with Iran.

        DEBKAfile’s military sources add: Both intelligence services underestimated the tremendous effort Iran invested in state of the art electronic warfare gadgetry designed to disable American military operations in Iraq and IDF functions in Israel and Lebanon. Israel’s electronic warfare units were taken by surprise by the sophisticated protective mechanisms attached to Hizballah’s communications networks, which were discovered to be connected by optical fibers which are not susceptible to electronic jamming.

        American and Israeli experts realize now that they overlooked the key feature of the naval exercise Iran staged in the Persian Gulf last April: Iran’s leap ahead in electronic warfare. They dismissed most the weapons systems as old-fashioned. But among them were the C-802 cruise missile and several electronic warfare systems, both of which turned up in the Lebanon war with deadly effect.

        Link: http://www.debka.com/index.php
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        • Re: War in The Middle East

          August 28, 2006
          Is Iran's President Really a xxx-hating, Holocaust-denying Islamo-fascist who has threatened to "wipe Israel off the map"?
          Putting Words in Ahmadinejad's Mouth

          By VIRGINIA TILLEY

          Johannesburg, South Africa

          In this frightening mess in the Middle East, let's get one thing straight. Iran is not threatening Israel with destruction. Iran's president has not threatened any action against Israel. Over and over, we hear that Iran is clearly "committed to annihilating Israel" because the "mad" or "reckless" or "hard-line" President Ahmadinejad has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel But every supposed quote, every supposed instance of his doing so, is wrong.

          The most infamous quote, "Israel must be wiped off the map", is the most glaringly wrong. In his October 2005 speech, Mr. Ahmadinejad never used the word "map" or the term "wiped off". According to Farsi-language experts like Juan Cole and even right-wing services like MEMRI, what he actually said was "this regime that is occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

          What did he mean? In this speech to an annual anti-Zionist conference, Mr. Ahmadinejad was being prophetic, not threatening. He was citing Imam Khomeini, who said this line in the 1980s (a period when Israel was actually selling arms to Iran, so apparently it was not viewed as so ghastly then). Mr. Ahmadinejad had just reminded his audience that the Shah's regime, the Soviet Union, and Saddam Hussein had all seemed enormously powerful and immovable, yet the first two had vanished almost beyond recall and the third now languished in prison. So, too, the "occupying regime" in Jerusalem would someday be gone. His message was, in essence, "This too shall pass."

          But what about his other "threats" against Israel? The blathersphere made great hay from his supposed comment later in the same speech, "There is no doubt: the new wave of assaults in Palestine will erase the stigma in [the] countenance of the Islamic world." "Stigma" was interpreted as "Israel" and "wave of assaults" was ominous. But what he actually said was, "I have no doubt that the new movement taking place in our dear Palestine is a wave of morality which is spanning the entire Islamic world and which will soon remove this stain of disgrace from the Islamic world." "Wave of morality" is not "wave of assaults." The preceding sentence had made clear that the "stain of disgrace" was the Muslim world's failure to eliminate the "occupying regime".
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          • Re: War in The Middle East

            I found this amusing.

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            • Re: War in The Middle East

              Ye it bothers me that Iran is getting a bad rap for all of this.

              In my view Ahmedinejad is a true hero. Some people compare him to Hitler. I don't see anyhting wrong with that. The world needs a strong uncompromising leader like that. he sticks it to the Joos like no one else does lol. Armenians should stand by his side.

              Peace out.

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              • Re: War in The Middle East

                I cant imagine next 5-10 years of middle east,i think war never finish between israil and muslim countries.finally many civilians ll die:-(

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                • Re: War in The Middle East

                  Originally posted by skhara
                  This is related to Iraq. I really liked it:

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp3m6...elated&search=
                  Has anyone else watched this?

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                  • Re: War in The Middle East

                    I watched that a long time ago, and now just did...

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                      LOL

                      Sounds familiar?

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