If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

[Italia brrro]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

odar means non-Armenian.

As a matter of fact I happen to like Italians and yes they are very sexy and so I heard, but I was trying to make a point that marriage and the marriage institution is not an easy place to be and sticking to it becomes harder when things start to go wrong like fights and arguments and differing thoughts and bringing up children and family. When you marry your own kind not all the time of course; but more times than not becomes somewhat easier, especially when most Armenian women would stick to it through thick and thin.

Well many Armenian people stick through marriage because they are taught that the value of marriage is important, and yes that is a part of their culture that I think is something that should be salvaged here in the U.S. It would be wise for an Armenian to have high standards for their partner, but not just limit that person to an Armenian. There are plenty "odars" that have high standards and value the sanctitiy of marriage just the same. I personally just think it is wrong to try to coerce somebody and force by pressure somebody into marrying somebody. Let that be their decision.

Is odar a negative connotation? It sounds like odor as in a bad smell.

And as I said in another thread, the Armenian/Persian girls are the ones who seem open to being in a relationship with a non armenian, and those are the ones that I have dated. I have not dated a full armenian. They seem to be more to themselves which gives off the impression that they think they are better than us. That's what gives me such a bad taste in my mouth.

[Anoush]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

It is pretty clear that neither of us are going to pursuade the other of what we think is right, because it is apparent we both pursue different things in life. The beauty of it all is that we both can have our opinions on the matter and be okay. My whole point is that if they are here living among us, why separate themselves. If they truly want to remain within their own kind, then so be it! But if not, then that is solely up to them. Let them make the decision and if they regret it, then so be it. I do know that if they are forced by family pressure to marry within their race, they will not be happy.

I do have a question...what do you mean by "odar"?

And another thing, you should try an Italian. We are sexy

jk

odar means non-Armenian.

As a matter of fact I happen to like Italians and yes they are very sexy and so I heard, but I was trying to make a point that marriage and the marriage institution is not an easy place to be and sticking to it becomes harder when things start to go wrong like fights and arguments and differing thoughts and bringing up children and family. When you marry your own kind not all the time of course; but more times than not becomes somewhat easier, especially when most Armenian women would stick to it through thick and thin.

[Italia brrro]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

You think that should be enough, but unfortunately there has been many more odar women who wouldn't stick to their initial talks afterwards. When little things go wrong in marriage they don't stick around. And believe me marriage is not an easy or black and white institution; especially after you two have children and family to raise. The way you both want to raise that child or children, then arguments. I don't mean to scare you but loving a woman and sticking to a marriage when through the years there will be numerous trying times when you would say you hate that woman and don't want to see her anymore. Then you start falling in love with her again. Most Armenian women would stick around after arguments, fights and trying times. But I have heard and seen most "odar" non-Armenian women to run away and wouldn't give a damn about children or anything else for that matter.

It is pretty clear that neither of us are going to pursuade the other of what we think is right, because it is apparent we both pursue different things in life. The beauty of it all is that we both can have our opinions on the matter and be okay. My whole point is that if they are here living among us, why separate themselves. If they truly want to remain within their own kind, then so be it! But if not, then that is solely up to them. Let them make the decision and if they regret it, then so be it. I do know that if they are forced by family pressure to marry within their race, they will not be happy.

I do have a question...what do you mean by "odar"?

And another thing, you should try an Italian. We are sexy

jk

[Anoush]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

I have sense my friend, I don't think people like me are the problem.

So race should not have anything to do with compatibility. Instead, when two people meet, they should relate on such things as ethics, views, etc. To say race makes any difference is just ignorant.

You think that should be enough, but unfortunately there has been many more odar women who wouldn't stick to their initial talks afterwards. When little things go wrong in marriage they don't stick around. And believe me marriage is not an easy or black and white institution; especially after you two have children and family to raise. The way you both want to raise that child or children, then arguments. I don't mean to scare you but loving a woman and sticking to a marriage are two different things; when through the years there will be numerous trying times when you would say you hate that woman and don't want to see her anymore. Then you start falling in love with her again. Most Armenian women would stick around after arguments, fights and trying times. But I have heard and seen most "odar" non-Armenian women to run away and wouldn't give a damn about children or anything else for that matter. I have seen and heard most Armenian women to be selfless when they marry and have children; but "odar" women are much more selfish and most don't care as much about family roots and children being brought up with two biological parents.

[Italia brrro]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

I am a nationalistic Armenian woman who is trying to put some sense into you to marry your own kind.

You don't know how many more stories I have heard from mega more Armenian men who married other than their own kind and had terrible marriages. You see, the problems arise and multiply much more when you try to have children. Ethics and mores differ and the problems they have had multiplied by marrying "odar" women.

I have sense my friend, I don't think people like me are the problem.

So race should not have anything to do with compatibility. Instead, when two people meet, they should relate on such things as ethics, views, etc. To say race makes any difference is just ignorant.

[Anoush]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

But it should be left to each man's or woman's own choice. Who are you or anybody else for that matter to tell a person who she can or cannot marry?

I am a nationalistic Armenian woman who is trying to put some sense into you to marry your own kind.

You don't know how many more stories I have heard from mega more Armenian men who married other than their own kind and had terrible marriages. You see, the problems arise and multiply much more when you try to have children. Ethics and mores differ and the problems they have had multiplied by marrying "odar" women.

[Italia brrro]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

Most human beings prefer to marry their own kind. Ask yourself why?

Because they understand each other better, every human being has or should have pride within themselves, and that pride becomes the same with the nationality. If I married a Greek man for instance and every now and then when we had arguments he said you stupid Armenian, I would feel much worse than if I had married an Armenian man who would feel about our cause and about our nationality or country the same way that I do. And the more and more reasons go on and on if you think deeper and deeper than your passions that you do feel now for the Chinese women.

But it should be left to each man's or woman's own choice. Who are you or anybody else for that matter to tell a person who she can or cannot marry?

[Anoush]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

A lot of Armenians have no desire to move back to Armenia. What would be their purpose in staying solely within their kind?

Most human beings prefer to marry their own kind. Ask yourself why?

Because they understand each other better, every human being has or should have pride within themselves, and that pride becomes the same with the nationality. If I married a Greek man for instance and every now and then when we had arguments he said you stupid Armenian, I would feel much worse than if I had married an Armenian man who would feel about our cause and about our nationality or country the same way that I do. And the more and more reasons go on and on if you think deeper and deeper than your passions that you do feel now for the Chinese women.

[Anoush]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

My point this whole time, and I have said it more than once, is that it is perfectly ok for you to marry within your own kind, and I see NOTHING wrong with that. However, as soon as you start to judge others who do not see things your way and choose to marry outside your race, that's when you cross the line.

And why shouldn't you be judged when you are fighting in a so called Armenian Forum to marry an odar? I am glad that there are Anonymouses that can set you straight and to gear you the right way and try to put some sense into your thinking.

[yerazhishda]

Re: If you couldn't marry an Armenian.....

Are your views not narrow?

Well, he's narrow when it comes to economics. Why won't he realize that a free-market will just not work for Armenia???