What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

[Tali]

I hope Levon responds to this. He gave the idea, in a round about way. He said how females are not the judges of men and what they should be/do.

So, gents, what is the ideal Armenian man? or what is an Armenian man?

[KanadaHye]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

I hope Levon responds to this. He gave the idea, in a round about way. He said how females are not the judges of men and what they should be/do.

So, gents, what is the ideal Armenian man? or what is an Armenian man?

Same as what any man is supposed to be...

Trait No. 1: A real man is strong
A real man doesn't cry, doesn't moan, doesn't complain, doesn't get sick, and doesn't need to go to the doctor every time he sneezes. A real man makes decisions and lives with the consequences. A real man accepts responsibility for his actions and his words. A real man is firm. If life is a b*tch, a real man will slap it and move on.

A real man is tough; a real man doesn't show emotions. A real man is the backbone of his family and doesn't have time to be weak. If spiders scare you, you'll never be a real man.

Trait No. 2: A real man is focused
A real man knows the difference between what's important and what isn't. A real man doesn't waste time on stupidities that don't bring him any profit. Sure, there are things you can do as a hobby -- I like to shoot ducks -- but it must have a purpose. The purpose of my hobby is to improve my aim, and I don't have to tell you whether or not that's a useful thing in my line of work.

A real man focuses on power, money and family. He doesn't focus on sex. Sex comes as a result of having power, money and a wife (and if she doesn't satisfy you, there are plenty of other women who will, especially when you are powerful and rich).


Trait No. 3: A real man knows the importance of family
A real man will keep his family strong and pass on his ancestors' history and traditions. A real man knows that his children are God's gift and should be treated as such, even if he disciplines them from time to time.

A real man must also remember his other Family, his organization. In my world, both my family and my Family hold the same importance; I protect them both with all my might. If you have a Family, don't forget where your loyalties lie and who has your back when you need it.


Trait No. 4: A real man doesn't gossip
A real man follows omerta; he keeps his mouth shut. He shelters information and rations his words. A real man does not reveal more than he has to and doesn't engage in girlie talk about others. A real man doesn't discuss things he doesn't know about or people he has never met.

Trait No. 5: A real man's word is his bond
When a real man makes a promise, he keeps it. If he can't keep a promise, he doesn't give his word. A real man would rather die than break his word. A real man knows that his words are as powerful as his actions, and that they must be taken at face value. That is why he rations them (see above).

Trait No. 6: A real man strives to be a role model
A real man respects himself and others at all times, unless, of course, he has been disrespected. A real man sets an example for his disciples, and especially for his children. I never bring my work home, so my children only know me as their father and not as a waste management executive. You should do the same; a real man sets the tone for his children and keeps them from discovering that he has weaknesses.

Trait No. 7: A real man makes his own fortune
A real man doesn't settle for handouts or charity when it comes to his personal fortune. A real man isn't satisfied with papa's money. He spits on Lady Luck and decides his own destiny. A real man who inherits goods from his forefathers takes his inheritance and turns it into 10 times what it was.

Trait No. 8: A real man doesn't look like a woman
A real man doesn't have piercings and long hair, and he doesn't shave his chest. Although, massages from female attendants are acceptable. A real man knows that, outside of his barber, all his personal hygiene needs must be taken care of by a woman.

A real man has at least three suits (with a mandatory pinstriped one) that cost more than a roomful of escorts. Any man who doesn't know how to tie a tie should hand in his testicoli immediately.

Trait No. 9: A real man keeps his house in order
Have you ever been inside the boss’ house? There ain’t no pizza boxes sitting around, there ain’t no undershirts on the floor, and there sure as hell ain’t no unpaid bills being used as beer coasters. No ruler can rule over a territory if he isn’t already the master of his own home.


Trait No. 10: A real man can defend himself
You know what’s missing in the world today? Leaders who have had to fight their way to the top. Look at the head of any organization that’s circling the toilet bowl, and I’ll show you a boss whose parents' power and money kept him from ever learning things the hard way.

http://ca.askmen.com/money/mafioso_60/98_mafia.html

[Tali]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

wow, thanks KanadaHye

i had a personal agenda attached to asking.

I see most of these traits in a lot of you guys, especially you. However, I think offline, the traits that you mentioned that i see kind of take a backseat here on the forum are presumably upheld in society.

I was a little confused on Family vs family. Is 'his organization' the job?

[KanadaHye]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

wow, thanks KanadaHye

i had a personal agenda attached to asking.

I see most of these traits in a lot of you guys, especially you. However, I think offline, the traits that you mentioned that i see kind of take a backseat here on the forum are presumably upheld in society.

I was a little confused on Family vs family. Is 'his organization' the job?

Yea, this is taken from a career oriented point of view but I thought it outlines a lot of what most Armenian men strive to be. Then you have your posers and wannabes...

[Tali]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

Ah, ok. Thank you.

I was attempting to analyze the few Armenian males that I know and how they fit up to this scale. Now I see why a lot of Armenians do not like the younger generation of Armenian Americans. In my generation as a whole (regardless of race) a lot of those values are no longer seen. It must be worrisome to a culture working to maintain itself.

[Yedtarts]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

The Ideal Armenian man should be 100% heterosexual and committed to his wife. Bear at least 4 children, should be nationalist and patriot, teach his kids about our history and civilization, raise them to love everything about their fatherland and love and be proud of being Armenians.

[Tali]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

Hm... based off of that, there's possibly still hope for my generation range. not so much off of KanadaHye's

[Yedtarts]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

Hm... based off of that, there's possibly still hope for my generation range. not so much off of KanadaHye's

Based on being Ideal Armenian man.

[KanadaHye]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

The Ideal Armenian man should be 100% heterosexual and committed to his wife. Bear at least 4 children, should be nationalist and patriot, teach his kids about our history and civilization, raise them to love everything about their fatherland and love and be proud of being Armenians.

Hm... based off of that, there's possibly still hope for my generation range. not so much off of KanadaHye's

It's all in there:

"A real man will keep his family strong and pass on his ancestors' history and traditions".

[Tali]

Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

Uh, Yedtarts, I wasn't referring to me I'm not a male and I'm not Armenian. I was referring to the Armenians that I know who are my age.

I should've been clearer. But i guess that's the essence of it?