i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

[Siggie]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

I see Iranian-Armenians in a whole different category by themselves, but in general I would group them with the Western Armenians because like many Western Armenians they immigrated from Middle Eastern countries. I think there's a clear difference between those Armenians and the Armenians of Armenia, Russia, and Georgia which I would group as in the 'Eastern category'.

Didn't say Western Armenians can't be patriotic, there have been a good number who stay patriotic as Armenians - but naturally their connection to Rep. of Arm. is rather distant and their patriotism I see as more overarching. The biggest difference really is the Soviet Mindset/Culture - I see that as dividing us more than anything. Many hayastancis feel more comfortable living with Russians, going to Russian food stores, we all recognise the famous Soviet/Russian movies and children cartoons. It shouldn't be solely a division on 'east and west' but on such cultural divide.

Yes, I can see what you're saying about the Soviet influence. I agree that that's perhaps a more meaningful distinction.

[Mos]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

I don't agree with your EA/WA definitions... Are Armenians from Iran WA in your scheme?


In LA, I've noticed that if anything it's more the WA and Iranian Armenians that are involved in Armenian community type things (e.g. Հ.Մ.Ը.Մ.) :shrugs:

I think when most people say EA or WA, they're referring to the dialect they speak.
And again, you're neglecting the barsgahyes... They're EA and they do not use russian words.

I see Iranian-Armenians in a whole different category by themselves, but in general I would group them with the Western Armenians because like many Western Armenians they immigrated from Middle Eastern countries. I think there's a clear difference between those Armenians and the Armenians of Armenia, Russia, and Georgia which I would group as in the 'Eastern category'.

Didn't say Western Armenians can't be patriotic, there have been a good number who stay patriotic as Armenians - but naturally their connection to Rep. of Arm. is rather distant and their patriotism I see as more overarching. The biggest difference really is the Soviet Mindset/Culture - I see that as dividing us more than anything. Many hayastancis feel more comfortable living with Russians, going to Russian food stores, we all recognise the famous Soviet/Russian movies and children cartoons. It shouldn't be solely a division on 'east and west' but on such cultural divide.

[Siggie]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

Western Armenian: Usually 2nd, 3rd generation, more assimilated, not really connected with Republic of Armenia, connected more with their country of residence
Eastern Armenians: Usually 1st generation, younger ones 2nd, come from Republic of Armenia, more Soviet mindset as relatives or them grew up in Soviet Year for 100 years, more connected with Russian culture and people, and other post-Soviet people.

Also there is Western dialect of Armenian and Eastern. Eastern Armenians usually use considerable amount of russian words.

But as I said, there is a big difference among Americans of "Armenian descent, American-Armenians, and Armenians. It all has to do with one's cultural upbringing and recognition.

I don't agree with your EA/WA definitions... Are Armenians from Iran WA in your scheme?


In LA, I've noticed that if anything it's more the WA and Iranian Armenians that are involved in Armenian community type things (e.g. Հ.Մ.Ը.Մ.) :shrugs:

I think when most people say EA or WA, they're referring to the dialect they speak.
And again, you're neglecting the barsgahyes... They're EA and they do not use russian words.

[Mos]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

I think I might be the only person left who dislikes when none Armenians call Armenians "Armo." I don't know.

I hate it when people say 'Armo'. Either say it full or don't say it at all. If it's like that I'll call Americans - Ameros.

[Ethnography]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

I think I might be the only person left who dislikes when none Armenians call Armenians "Armo." I don't know.

[Mos]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

whats the difference from a western armo or eastern... i've seen alot of people making it clear that they are western

Western Armenian: Usually 2nd, 3rd generation, more assimilated, not really connected with Republic of Armenia, connected more with their country of residence
Eastern Armenians: Usually 1st generation, younger ones 2nd, come from Republic of Armenia, more Soviet mindset as relatives or them grew up in Soviet Year for 100 years, more connected with Russian culture and people, and other post-Soviet people.

Also there is Western dialect of Armenian and Eastern. Eastern Armenians usually use considerable amount of russian words.

But as I said, there is a big difference among Americans of "Armenian descent, American-Armenians, and Armenians. It all has to do with one's cultural upbringing and recognition.

[doxie]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

whats the difference from a western armo or eastern... i've seen alot of people making it clear that they are western

[Mos]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

i guess i'll just wait for a more american armo... to see what happens... i've noticed that the more educated, the more americanized, and more open... but its so rare

but they are american not armenian. remember that.

may i suggest levon from this very board

He should marry a feminist - would be a solid marriage

[KanadaHye]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

may i suggest levon from this very board

[gkv]

Re: i'm not armenian, but i like armo boys

i guess i'll just wait for a more american armo... to see what happens... i've noticed that the more educated, the more americanized, and more open... but its so rare

may i suggest levon from this very board