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  • #21
    Originally posted by EYYBABA23
    sorry Mouse meister. Some of us here are still learning the English language and aren't really up to your level. Can you just translate that? I'm afraid if I figure it out by using a dictionary, I'll get something totally weird..lol
    Haven't you ever seen those movies about the old Klan days? You know, the men in big white masks complaining about keeping their culture and bloodline pure. He basically just said what they said, but used less imflammatory language.

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    • #22
      Now Chris Rock will make jokes about us too

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      • #23
        Thanks guys. Yes mekich hetngazem! LOL

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        • #24
          Originally posted by loseyourname
          Haven't you ever seen those movies about the old Klan days? You know, the men in big white masks complaining about keeping their culture and bloodline pure. He basically just said what they said, but used less imflammatory language.

          there is NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING wrong with wanting to be with your own kind! what he is saying comes out of preference and wanting to preserve our culture, NOT hate!!!

          your statement above has the same racist effect as calling a black person the 'n' word!

          while we are all human and are capable of loving ANYONE on the face of this earth regardless of color, race, or ethnic background, it takes a lot of introspection and soul searching to find out and realize that although one can date and it is just as fun to date someone outside one's nationality, etc., one has chosen to ultimately marry and procreate with someone of the same background!

          again, there is NOTHING wrong with what he said! no need to equate it with hate and ignorance and compare it to a shameful time in american history!

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          • #25
            My opinion on the whole armenian and otar situation is that armenians should stick with armenians. If an armenian and an otar can work through the complications of being in love and of two different cultures with no problems or worries, than more power to you. Go for it and goodluck. But it is EXTREAMMLY difficult. Date yes, sure why not, marry as sad as it is for even me to admit, it isnt possible.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by sad_eyes
              My opinion on the whole armenian and otar situation is that armenians should stick with armenians. If an armenian and an otar can work through the complications of being in love and of two different cultures with no problems or worries, than more power to you. Go for it and goodluck. But it is EXTREAMMLY difficult. Date yes, sure why not, marry as sad as it is for even me to admit, it isnt possible.
              Werent you in a relationship with an Armenian guy? Or is that like ancient history and Im just behind? lol

              I, for one, am sure that it is very possible for an Armenian and Otar to have a successful marriage. I simply dislike the idea, and dont want it in my own life.

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              • #27
                Here's the problem: The average Anglo-Saxon American HAS no culture, so there's nothing to compete with as far as clashing ethnicities. A good portion of the white honkys and yuppies I run into actually LOVE learning about my background, because they think it's "cool". Since they have no heritage of their own to celebrate, they seem eager to pick up someone else's. So as long as you're not talking about minorities like Mexicans, Africans, Asians, etc, or people that just migrated here or are only a generation or two in, I don't see why it is so difficult for people to phathom the idea of making an Armenian family out of non-Armenian marriages.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by hyebruin
                  there is NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING wrong with wanting to be with your own kind! what he is saying comes out of preference and wanting to preserve our culture, NOT hate!!!

                  your statement above has the same racist effect as calling a black person the 'n' word!
                  Oh please. I'm making fun of the guy, that's all. "Miscegenation of our commonfolk with other genotypes." You have to admit that sounds straight out of a Klan movie. If you want to preserve a certain culture, fine. I can even understand if you'd prefer someone intelligent and good-looking. But beyond the genes for intelligence and good looks, why the heck should you care about the rest of the person's genotype? If it's the culture you're after, go for culture. Going for a certain set of genes just because they're the closest to your own that you can find is downright silly. Mousy aint talking about preserving culture. He's talking about the purity of the bloodline. The only groups I can think of in history that have been so obsessed with keeping a bloodline pure are the English royal family, the Nazis, and the Klan. For a man so insistent that humans are "spiritual beings," Mousy is sure bogged down in the physicality of gene sequences.

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                  • #29
                    loseyourname - I entirely agree with your comments on this thread...and Sadeyes - I thought you were a non-Armenian who was dating an Armenian...if this is true then maybe your comments should not be taken on face value alone eh?

                    And let me digress just a bit....OK - so we are all (or most of us are) "Armenians"...most of us also live in what - the United States of America (that was America...not Armenia)....OK - so think about this one a bit...yes - you might perserve some (maybe much?) aspects of the culture...but what are you going to do - only work for Armenians/Armenian companies that do traditional Armenain crafts and such? - only interact with Armenians? etc etc - I would say - No - you are not going to do these things...thus - you will assimilate (for the most part) - as every other group does/has - you, or your children or theirs - its inevitable...so deal with it...even if you make the "Armenians only" choice - can/will you be able to force your children to do such - etc....)and what then when they don't - do you cut off all ties from them? From your future non-Armenian in-laws? - etc etc ...if you really feel so strongly - then I suggest you go to live in Armenia post-haste...as every moment you continue here furthers your "corruption" - really I mean this...but I will also warn you - don't think that even (life in) Armenia itself is standing still - that it is a haven agaisnt outside influence and change and that you will not encounter non-Armenians and non-(traditional) Armenian ways...time does not stand still - ever - and in fact - it is flowing faster then ever - so perhaps you should consider the history of Armenia and understand what Armenians have always done to survive...

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by winoman
                      loseyourname - I entirely agree with your comments on this thread...and Sadeyes - I thought you were a non-Armenian who was dating an Armenian...if this is true then maybe your comments should not be taken on face value alone eh?

                      And let me digress just a bit....OK - so we are all (or most of us are) "Armenians"...most of us also live in what - the United States of America (that was America...not Armenia)....OK - so think about this one a bit...yes - you might perserve some (maybe much?) aspects of the culture...but what are you going to do - only work for Armenians/Armenian companies that do traditional Armenain crafts and such? - only interact with Armenians? etc etc - I would say - No - you are not going to do these things...thus - you will assimilate (for the most part) - as every other group does/has - you, or your children or theirs - its inevitable...so deal with it...even if you make the "Armenians only" choice - can/will you be able to force your children to do such - etc....)and what then when they don't - do you cut off all ties from them? From your future non-Armenian in-laws? - etc etc ...if you really feel so strongly - then I suggest you go to live in Armenia post-haste...as every moment you continue here furthers your "corruption" - really I mean this...but I will also warn you - don't think that even (life in) Armenia itself is standing still - that it is a haven agaisnt outside influence and change and that you will not encounter non-Armenians and non-(traditional) Armenian ways...time does not stand still - ever - and in fact - it is flowing faster then ever - so perhaps you should consider the history of Armenia and understand what Armenians have always done to survive...
                      This has nothing to do with our career or anything of the sort. Its about how we run our household and raise our children. I dont think that anyone here is looking for a haven from the rest of the world. We are as good at adapting while preserving our identity as our ancestors.

                      I am getting an American education ( ), and plan to work in English. I am, however, going to learn Armenian and marry a man who speaks it. My children will be encouraged to have any profession they want, but they WILL learn Armenian language, traditions, and history, and they WILL continue the tradition with their own families.

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