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  • #11
    Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    There is no money in prevention. Nobody wants to study preventing cancer. Saying that we just do not have enough evidence and information to say this as concrete fact is true. Saying that it can't be proved is false.
    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
    You cannot control people and only vary what they eat. Our behaviors, environments, genetics, etc vary, so it's impossible to isolate one thing.
    I already explained why we can't say there's a causal claim. We cannot take mono-zygotic twins, put them in identical environments and control their every interactions and ensure they eat identically except for say one twin gets strawberries and the other doesn't. We cannot isolate these things. So, it's difficult to say that eating a certain food will reduce likelihood of cancer because soooo much more than just that food varies. We can only say we found a relationship. But with countless variables to examine it's certain that some of these associations we find may be spurious.
    All I said was that we need to be cautious in exactly what we claim and make sure the research supports it.
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    • #12
      Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

      Originally posted by Siggie View Post
      I already explained why we can't say there's a causal claim. We cannot take mono-zygotic twins, put them in identical environments and control their every interactions and ensure they eat identically except for say one twin gets strawberries and the other doesn't. We cannot isolate these things. So, it's difficult to say that eating a certain food will reduce likelihood of cancer because soooo much more than just that food varies. We can only say we found a relationship. But with countless variables to examine it's certain that some of these associations we find may be spurious.
      All I said was that we need to be cautious in exactly what we claim and make sure the research supports it.
      Obviously, eating fruits and vegetables isn't going to prevent cancer if you are constantly exposing yourself to radiation. Many cancers are related to unhealthy lifestyles and this article is outlining foods that help keep your body healthy. It is cancer prevention.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #13
        Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Obviously, eating fruits and vegetables isn't going to prevent cancer if you are constantly exposing yourself to radiation. Many cancers are related to unhealthy lifestyles and this article is outlining foods that help keep your body healthy. It is cancer prevention.
        Healthy is one thing, not having cancer is another. People considered "healthy" still get cancer it seems.
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        • #14
          Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

          Originally posted by Federate View Post
          Healthy is one thing, not having cancer is another. People considered "healthy" still get cancer it seems.
          You can be healthy yet be externally exposed to cancer causing agents. There are so many types of cancer that you can't possibly isolate the causes. However, throwing up your arms and saying "well, since science says you can get cancer anyways" and then eating junk food, smoking and drinking isn't going to help with prevention.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #15
            Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            You can be healthy yet be externally exposed to cancer causing agents. There are so many types of cancer that you can't possibly isolate the causes. However, throwing up your arms and saying "well, since science says you can get cancer anyways" and then eating junk food, smoking and drinking isn't going to help with prevention.
            Originally posted by Siggie View Post

            While it's generally a good idea to eat fruits and vegetables, there is no reason to believe these will prevent or cure cancer.
            Who said we should throw up our arms and eat garbage?!
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            • #16
              Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

              Originally posted by Siggie View Post
              Who said we should throw up our arms and eat garbage?!
              Generally a good idea? Why is it a good idea if there are no benefits? There are no studies showing poor diets and cancer links?
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              • #17
                Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

                Poor diet ratchets up cancer risk

                Excess fat can cause up to a third of all cases, study says, putting lifestyle choices on par with quitting smoking

                The most comprehensive study ever undertaken on the association between cancer and obesity concludes that excess body fat triggers many types of the disease, as does the consumption of even moderate amounts of alcohol, red meats and processed meats.

                The study, released yesterday in Washington by the American Institute for Cancer Research and the World Cancer Research Fund, shows food, nutrition and lack of exercise appear critical in causing many cases - perhaps up to one-third - of all cancers. That means controllable lifestyle factors associated with diet and weight have about the same impact on cancer rates as smoking.

                "The most striking finding in the report is that excess body fat increases risk for numerous cancers," said Phillip James, one of the study's authors and chairman of the British-based International Obesity Taskforce.

                The international team of medical experts, which conducted an exhaustive, five-year review of more than 7,000 research papers that investigated whether food, nutrition or lack of physical exercise had an impact on cancer incidence, made 10 recommendations for preventing the disease. They include eating diets containing large quantities of vegetables and fruits and, most important, staying as thin as possible within the normal range of a person's body weight.

                "Cancer is preventable. There are changes you can make in your daily life that will reduce your chances of developing cancer," Dr. James said. "Let's get more vegetables, fruits. ... Let's get off our backsides, however and whenever we can."

                Among the cancers convincingly linked to excess body fat, particularly if it is carried around the waist, are colon, kidney, pancreas, uterine, adenocarcinoma of the esophagus, and postmenopausal breast cancer.

                The new research also made some unusual findings about cancer. One is that there is convincing evidence linking being tall to a higher risk of colorectal and postmenopausal breast cancer. Another is that an association exists between high birth weight and increased risk for premenopausal breast cancer - probably due to body fat.

                Although many medical researchers have presented studies before linking cancer to weight and diet, the new study makes the case even more convincingly because it draws together most of the available evidence on the subject. The AICR published a previous study on cancer and body mass 10 years ago, and, at the time, the evidence was only strong enough to link it to uterine cancer - indicating how much scientific research has uncovered in the last decade.

                "This report today is showing us that the evidence is becoming more and more clear about the relationship between how we live, what we eat, and our individual risk of developing cancer," said Heather Logan, a spokesperson for the Canadian Cancer Society in Toronto.

                The cancer society has long advocated that Canadians do what they can - through diet, smoking cessation, and sensible sun exposure - to reduce the odds of developing the illness. Although not all cancers are caused by such lifestyle factors - others are due to genetics, environmental contaminants and as yet unknown factors - a significant portion appear to be.

                Based on the findings, millions of cancer deaths in industrialized countries could be avoided if the public paid more attention to diet, exercise and weight. In Canada alone this year, about 160,000 people will be diagnosed with cancer and about 73,000 will die from the disease.

                Given the association between excess weight and cancer, it is likely that many types of the disease linked to body fat will remain at elevated levels unless the public makes a major effort to lose weight. The study said the prevalence of overweight people doubled in many wealthy countries between 1990 and 2005.

                Among the recommendations, the study threw cold water on the idea that people should try to prevent cancer by taking supplements, an approach that has been advanced by many in the health food industry. Except for a few isolated examples, such as the need for taking vitamin D, the study said people should get their nutrients through diet alone.

                Although there is evidence that high-dose supplements can reduce some types of cancer, the study concluded that, for otherwise healthy people, "the best source of nourishment is foods and drinks, not dietary supplements."

                For those who have had cancer, the study advises the best course is to follow the recommendations on weight, diet and exercise in the hopes of preventing further bouts of the disease.

                In its recommendations, the study calls for people to adopt a two-pronged attack on excess weight, using both exercise and diet. It says people should engage in moderate physical activity, equivalent to brisk walking, for at least 30 minutes daily, rising to an hour as fitness levels improve.

                On the food front, it says to consume sparingly energy-dense foods such as sugary drinks, burgers and pastries. Instead, people should eat large amounts - about 400 grams daily - of non-starchy vegetables and fruits.

                "We are recommending five servings or more of vegetables and fruit daily because, like physical activity, they pack a double whammy against cancer," Dr. James said.

                The study is titled Food, Nutrition, Physical Activity and the Prevention of Cancer: a Global Perspective. It is available online at http://www.aicr.org.

                Nutritional don'ts and dos


                Limit red meat consumption to no more than seven small (75 grams) servings a week.

                This covers beef, pork and lamb. Avoid all types of processed meats such

                as bacon, sausage, hot dogs, ham and other lunch meat. Colorectal cancer is the concern; every 50 grams of processed meat eaten daily increases lifetime risk by 21 per cent.

                Alcohol from all sources - beer, wine

                or spirits - should be avoided because even small amounts raise risk. It has been linked

                to cancers of the mouth, throat and esophagus, as well as colorectal in men and breast in women. At most, men should consume

                no more than two drinks a day and women no more than one.

                Fast food should be eaten sparingly, if at all. Avoid foods that pack a lot of energy, such as pastries, French fries and sugary drinks.

                Cut salt consumption to reduce the risk

                of stomach cancer. Avoid mouldy cereals or legumes because they may be contaminated with aflatoxins, a cause of liver cancer.

                In order to meet daily protein requirements,

                give preference to poultry, fish and eggs.

                Eat five servings of fruit and non-starchy vegetables daily. Eat relatively unprocessed grains and/or legumes with every meal.

                Try to meet your daily nutritional needs through diet, rather than supplements.

                Ten steps for cancer prevention


                Be as lean as possible within the normal range of body weight.

                Be physically active at least 30 minutes daily.

                Limit consumption of energy-dense foods; avoid sugary drinks.

                Eat mostly foods of plant origin.

                Limit intake of red meat and avoid processed meat.

                Limit alcoholic drinks.

                Limit consumption of salt. Avoid mouldy cereals and bread.

                Aim to meet nutritional needs through diet alone rather than through supplements.

                Babies should be breastfed.

                Cancer survivors should follow the recommendations for cancer prevention.

                Sources: American Institute for Cancer Research, World Cancer Research Fund

                A preventable disease?

                A new review suggests that the risk of contracting several forms of cancer - including some that strike tens of thousands of Canadians every year - can be lessened with fairly basic lifestyle changes.

                http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...article794978/
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • #18
                  Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

                  Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                  There are no studies showing poor diets and cancer links?
                  Coca cola, pepsi cola, nutrisweet and canned foods, a great deal of red meat consumption, to name a few. I just remembered that even small amounts of alcohol daily for women is linked to breast cancer for women.

                  You were questioning not saying it KndHye. Anyhow, the above is a valid report.
                  Last edited by Anoush; 08-26-2009, 04:53 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Re: Foods that PREVENT CANCER!

                    The report above KndHye is the one I have known to be good and sums it up just right.

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