Armenian Soccer

[Haykakan]

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Would be better for him to start at Spartak than be a bench warmer in the premier league.

Again United scouts at Spartak match for Aras


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[Mher]

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Would be better for him to start at Spartak than be a bench warmer in the premier league.

I disagree. The Russian league shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as even the Dutch league. Spartak has completely stunted Yuras and Aras' growth over the course of this season. They can't get out fast enough. Aras was an wrong to leave Ajax for Kuban, and an absolute fool for leaving Kuban for Moscow. I'm assuming the latter was done purely for the glamor of Moscow considering the teams were at the same level, and he was the star of Kuban. And even though its blatantly obvious that they are the best two players on the team, they can't always count on even starting. There are so many technical and personal issues with the team, and really most of the league as a whole, I would like to write an essay. When these teams play in CL or UEFA against other European teams they get crushed by 3rd rate Europeans clubs. Even Zenit, the only team that remotely looks like a professional team got tossed around like a practice squad v. Dortmund who currently is missing half of its roster and is struggling to bottom 10 teams in Germany. By going to the Premiere league if nothing else, Aras would see how world class professionals train and discipline themselves, and he would get world class training. And there is no reason he wouldn't get playing time. United this year is not the team its been for the past 2 decades. Last week 40 y.o Ryan Giggs started in the Champions League v Munich at Aras' position. And 5 minutes of playing time versus Steven Gerrard and Sergio Agüero is better than a season in Russia

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian Soccer

We will have to agree to disagree then Mher. Nothing is a substitute for playing time and i do not see him nor Yura getting much in the PL. Spartak will have a new coach and things can be different next season. Yura was also injured much of this season but he has excelled in the russian league.

[Mher]

Re: Armenian Soccer

We will have to agree to disagree then Mher. Nothing is a substitute for playing time and i do not see him nor Yura getting much in the PL. Spartak will have a new coach and things can be different next season. Yura was also injured much of this season but he has excelled in the russian league.

I don't disagree with the central premise that playing time is important-plenty of star players have been rotting on United's bench this year-and that usually should be consideration number 1. it's just how bad the russian league, and specially Sparktak, is. On most other cases I would say staying put where you get regular minutes is better than going somewhere where you risk getting nothing, but Spartak is an exception. It's hard to see them any time in the near future being a champions league team, and that's how players play against the best players in the world, and how they get better. Even ignoring the fact the fact that the next coach might be as bad, and that it'll take another year to adjust to his system, there's still the issue of playing against mediocre players with mediocre teammates. If United is scouting him, it could mean a above average premiere league team or Bundesliga team starts following them and eventually signs them.

[Mher]

Re: Armenian Soccer

Heno scored the first of three goals in 3-0 win today v archrival Bayern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3xhn2p7xbE#t=34

It was a big goal for him today after he played absolutely horribly in the biggest game of the season in the champions league v. Real Madrid, when he missed three chances from a few yards out, and Bayern lost 3-2 on aggregate

[Joseph]

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Denis Tumasyan coming?

http://www.armsport.am/hy/news/2014/04/14/Թումասյանը-շնորհակալություն-է-հայտնում-Շալանդին/453426

[Mher]

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Denis Tumasyan coming?

http://www.armsport.am/hy/news/2014/...ն/453426

Hi Joseph, can you provide some information about him
For some reason I had never heard of him. At almost 29, how come he never made it to a national team before?
At his age, I don't know if he's going to be a long term solution, but based on his transfermarkt value he's definitely better than anything we have right now

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian Soccer

Hi Joseph, can you provide some information about him
For some reason I had never heard of him. At almost 29, how come he never made it to a national team before?
At his age, I don't know if he's going to be a long term solution, but based on his transfermarkt value he's definitely better than anything we have right now

I think he was blacklisted by fatass Rubo.

[Mher]

Re: Armenian Soccer

I think he was blacklisted by fatass Rubo.

that's a shame. what was the reason?
It's not like we're so loaded at the position that we could just turn away people. he can probably start

[Joseph]

Re: Armenian Soccer

All I know is that he has played his entire career in Russia, he's half Russian, I believe he does not speak Armenian, has good size, was at one time considered for the Russian National Squad. Armenia is weak on defense so it's worth a shot at the very least.