Sochi

[hrai]

Re: Sochi

Thanks for ruining the sports thread guys...like you cant talk about this sshhiitt in another thread? Went to a friends house to watch the opening ceremonies last night. I thought it was cool with a lot of history on display (was a bit long but so is their history). Anyone know who the young lady was to the left of Putin(his left our right)? Saw the Armenians marching and the commentator was going on about how just being there is a big deal for some countries which have no chance to win...Would be nice to see some of our athletes in action. I wonder if it was the cold or what but it seemed like Putin had a face lift...seems like the thing to do these days

[Haykakan]

Re: Sochi

Thanks for ruining the sports thread guys...like you cant talk about this sshhiitt in another thread? Went to a friends house to watch the opening ceremonies last night. I thought it was cool with a lot of history on display (was a bit long but so is their history). Anyone know who the young lady was to the left of Putin(his left our right)? Saw the Armenians marching and the commentator was going on about how just being there is a big deal for some countries which have no chance to win...Would be nice to see some of our athletes in action. I wonder if it was the cold or what but it seemed like Putin had a face lift...seems like the thing to do these days

[hrai]

Threats to Sochi Winter Olympics

Perhaps this could be the place to post an incidents regarding the Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics?

Putin seems to expect a few. BTW, the first link has been disabled, it was working 24 hours or so ago.

https://news.google.com/news?ncl=dWB52rppQdhjCeMqf1lPdlQ0jHHIM&q=plane+olympics&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-yb1Uu-HIMiM7AaMloDYDQ&ved=0CDMQqgIwAA

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/world/europe/attempted-hijacking-of-turkey-bound-plane-reported.html?hpw&rref=world

ISTANBUL — A passenger aboard a commercial airline flight from Ukraine to Turkey tried to hijack it to Sochi, Russia, on Friday after the Winter Olympics started. He threatened to set off a bomb with a cellphone if his demands were not met, but the crew fooled him — and the other passengers — into thinking the plane had landed in Sochi when it was actually in Istanbul, passengers and the authorities said.

The man, a 45-year-old Ukrainian, was seized by special security forces as the Turkish aircraft, a Pegasus Airlines Boeing 737-800 with 110 passengers, was being evacuated at Sabiha Gokcen Airport, according to Huseyin Avni Mutlu, the governor of Istanbul.

The government scrambled two F-16 warplanes, which escorted the jetliner as it landed, reflecting the heightened fears of terrorism as the Sochi Olympics got underway.

A passenger, Mehmet Tutar, said the pilot even announced that they had arrived in Sochi. “I didn’t even see him,” said Mr. Tutar, who was seated in the back of the plane, referring to the hijacker. “I just heard something. I thought it was a drunk guy.”

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Suspect in the hijacking. Bulent Kilic/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
Passengers’ relatives and friends who went to Sabiha Gokcen, on the Asian side of Istanbul, described tense cellphone conversations with those on the plane.

“We came here early to pick up my father’s wife,” Firat Altan, 19, said. “She was very anxious when I talked to her on the phone, and said the hijacker could not be persuaded by the crew and yelled that he had a bomb on board. I heard some passengers crying in the background.”

Mufit Goren, who was waiting for two female friends on board, said they told him that “the hijacker constantly threatened to detonate a bomb with his mobile if anyone neared him, and said he wanted to go to Sochi. He could freely walk along the aisles even when Turkish channels reported that he was taken under control by the security forces.”

Passengers were reachable on their telephones for nearly four hours until the security units entered the aircraft. Traffic to and from the airport was halted until the authorities announced that the plane had been secured and the Ukrainian passenger was in custody.

Turkish news organizations reported that the man made his threats soon after the flight left Kharkov in Ukraine. The pilot then alerted the authorities in Turkey.

SOCHI 2014

Complete coverage of the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.
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“In the beginning he was thinking that he was going to Sochi,” Mr. Mutlu said. “Of course, sometime later, he realized that he was in Istanbul, in Turkey. It would not have been good to tell him right away.”

The hijacker agreed to the evacuation of children, women and older passengers, and once the evacuation started, other passengers were also helped out of the plane, leaving the hijacker alone with the crew, the governor said. The security forces then entered the aircraft and subdued the hijacker “in a swift, quick and effective manner.”

Mr. Mutlu said the hijacker, who was not immediately identified, had a suitcase with electronic equipment but no bomb. He was not drunk but might have taken some sort of medication to remain alert, Mr. Mutlu added.

The hijacker’s possible organizational links and motives were yet to be investigated, Mr. Mutlu said, telling reporters that the man had refused to cooperate with the authorities.

Turkish news reports said the man was taken to the Istanbul Police Headquarters, as television footage showed the plane parked with fire brigades and ambulances surrounding it. Habib Soluk, a Transportation Ministry official, was quoted on Turkish television saying the pilots had darkened the cabin lights to reinforce their claim that the plane was in Sochi.

As it happened, the Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was in Sochi to attend the opening ceremony of the Games.

[hrai]

Re: Sochi

Very interesting that the first link has already been disabled in the last 24 hours...............just as interesting is the countries involved in this story......Ukraine & turcey....................mmmmm..............no drums to beat there eh?

https://news.google.com/news?ncl=dWB52rppQdhjCeMqf1lPdlQ0jHHIM&q=plane+olympics&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-yb1Uu-HIMiM7AaMloDYDQ&ved=0CDMQqgIwAA

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/world/europe/attempted-hijacking-of-turkey-bound-plane-reported.html?hpw&rref=world

ISTANBUL — A passenger aboard a commercial airline flight from Ukraine to Turkey tried to hijack it to Sochi, Russia, on Friday after the Winter Olympics started. He threatened to set off a bomb with a cellphone if his demands were not met, but the crew fooled him — and the other passengers — into thinking the plane had landed in Sochi when it was actually in Istanbul, passengers and the authorities said.

The man, a 45-year-old Ukrainian, was seized by special security forces as the Turkish aircraft, a Pegasus Airlines Boeing 737-800 with 110 passengers, was being evacuated at Sabiha Gokcen Airport, according to Huseyin Avni Mutlu, the governor of Istanbul.

The government scrambled two F-16 warplanes, which escorted the jetliner as it landed, reflecting the heightened fears of terrorism as the Sochi Olympics got underway.

A passenger, Mehmet Tutar, said the pilot even announced that they had arrived in Sochi. “I didn’t even see him,” said Mr. Tutar, who was seated in the back of the plane, referring to the hijacker. “I just heard something. I thought it was a drunk guy.”

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Suspect in the hijacking. Bulent Kilic/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
Passengers’ relatives and friends who went to Sabiha Gokcen, on the Asian side of Istanbul, described tense cellphone conversations with those on the plane.

“We came here early to pick up my father’s wife,” Firat Altan, 19, said. “She was very anxious when I talked to her on the phone, and said the hijacker could not be persuaded by the crew and yelled that he had a bomb on board. I heard some passengers crying in the background.”

Mufit Goren, who was waiting for two female friends on board, said they told him that “the hijacker constantly threatened to detonate a bomb with his mobile if anyone neared him, and said he wanted to go to Sochi. He could freely walk along the aisles even when Turkish channels reported that he was taken under control by the security forces.”

Passengers were reachable on their telephones for nearly four hours until the security units entered the aircraft. Traffic to and from the airport was halted until the authorities announced that the plane had been secured and the Ukrainian passenger was in custody.

Turkish news organizations reported that the man made his threats soon after the flight left Kharkov in Ukraine. The pilot then alerted the authorities in Turkey.

SOCHI 2014

Complete coverage of the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.
News | Photos
“In the beginning he was thinking that he was going to Sochi,” Mr. Mutlu said. “Of course, sometime later, he realized that he was in Istanbul, in Turkey. It would not have been good to tell him right away.”

The hijacker agreed to the evacuation of children, women and older passengers, and once the evacuation started, other passengers were also helped out of the plane, leaving the hijacker alone with the crew, the governor said. The security forces then entered the aircraft and subdued the hijacker “in a swift, quick and effective manner.”

Mr. Mutlu said the hijacker, who was not immediately identified, had a suitcase with electronic equipment but no bomb. He was not drunk but might have taken some sort of medication to remain alert, Mr. Mutlu added.

The hijacker’s possible organizational links and motives were yet to be investigated, Mr. Mutlu said, telling reporters that the man had refused to cooperate with the authorities.

Turkish news reports said the man was taken to the Istanbul Police Headquarters, as television footage showed the plane parked with fire brigades and ambulances surrounding it. Habib Soluk, a Transportation Ministry official, was quoted on Turkish television saying the pilots had darkened the cabin lights to reinforce their claim that the plane was in Sochi.

As it happened, the Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was in Sochi to attend the opening ceremony of the Games.

[hrai]

Re: Sochi

Yes, pretty vile stuff. What a xxxxroach Migranyan must be. Though he doesn't really evoke the Armenian Genocide to deny the Circassian one, he was talking about it in the context of the post WW2 Armenian migration to Armenia (which is way too obscure an event for any viewer to know about) and so mentions the AG in that context.

That is beyond hilarious

[Artashes]

Re: Sochi

Well it appears the whole world aired the opening ceremonies live except the USA I guess they were too busy destabilizing Ukraine. Hope to catch on delay tonight.

Ya, as a kid growing up in USA, we were taught that Russia used propaganda but we Americans were honest, straight dealers.
Ronald Reagan once said " I think we ware the whiter hat"
Ya, in his movies.

[Mher]

Re: Sochi

Well keep in mind that unlike some other countries-Azerbaidjan and Russia are full of cash thus they can indeed afford extravagant spending to glorify themselves.

But the counterargument to that would be that unlike Western countries, countries like Russia and Azerbaijan are a lot less developed, and have a lot of basic needs yet to be covered. Moreover, no matter the amount of cash at hand, such spending is only possible in places like China, Russia, and Azerbaijan were dissent is not very easy, and people are less inclined to speak out about perceived wrongdoings by their government.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Sochi

Russian-Armenian political scientist (and Putinist) Andranik Migranyan denying the genocide of the Circassians on Al-Jazeera's The Stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvzZvyiqYhM

Starts at about 6:30.

Around the 30 minute mark, he invokes the Armenian Genocide to deny the Circassian one and I had to stop watching.

Yes, pretty vile stuff. What a xxxxroach Migranyan must be. Though he doesn't really evoke the Armenian Genocide to deny the Circassian one, he was talking about it in the context of the post WW2 Armenian migration to Armenia (which is way too obscure an event for any viewer to know about) and so mentions the AG in that context.

However, for a lot of his responses he could be a Turk talking about Armenians and denying the Armenian genocide. Word-for-word, excuse-for-excuse, lie-for-lie, racist abuse for racist abuse - astonishingly identical.

Of course, tell a Circassian about how they murdered tens of thousands of Armenians during the Armenian genocide (and their fanatics in Syria were the worst of the lot, being used by the Turks as substitutes for Kurds and "out-Kurded" the Kurds in their bloodthirsty viciousness) and we will get them denying that piece of their history in exactly the same way as Migranyan is doing for Russian history. Either that, or they will backtrack on their position of their being one simgle Circasian nation and become anxious to mention that there are lots of different ethnic groups and that the ones who did it were just from a few select ethnic groups.

[Mher]

Re: Sochi

Every single member of the Armenian delegation to the Sochi Olympics is either born in Armenian or ethnic Armenian. The Armenian roster includes: Sergey Mikayelyan (birthplace: Russia), Arman Serebrakian (birthplace: USA), Katya Galstyan (birthplace: Armenia), and Artur Yeghoyan (birthplace: Armenia). On the other hand, it is fascinating and noteworthy that not even a single athlete of the Azerbaijan's Olympic delegation is born in Azerbaijan or is of Azeri ethnic origin. Below is a detailed list:

Gaia Bassani Antivari (born July 8, 1978 in Italy) [Italian] is an alpine skier who competed for Azerbaijan at the 2010 Winter Olympics. She previously competed for the Caribbean nation of Grenada, and attempted to compete for them at the 2002 Winter Olympics. However she couldn't as the GOA did not submit paperwork.

Patrick Brachner (born January 7, 1992 in Austria) [Austrian] is an alpine skier who now represents Azerbaijan. He will compete for Azerbaijan at the 2014 Winter Olympics in the slalom and giant slalom. Brachner was also selected to carry the Azerbaijani flag during the opening ceremony.

Alexei Alexandrovich Sitnikov (born May 23, 1986 in Russia) [Russian] is an ice dancer. Competing for Azerbaijan with Julia Zlobina (born June 28, 1989 in Russia) [Russian]. They have placed as high as sixth at the European Championships and have qualified for the 2014 Winter Olympics.

-Unified Young Armenians

[TomServo]

Re: Sochi

Yeh ok Tom since this is a Armenian forum therefor all forums are genocide forums by default since there is nothing else to being Armenian

Well, this forum actually assimilated another one that was dedicated exclusively to Armenian Genocide discussion (used to be armeniangenocide.com) so...

You enjoy talking about East-West tensions, American neo-fascism, and Western bias so much (I mean, you did it in your first post in this thread and in the post prior to this one), so one might say this thread was politicized from the get-go.