Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

[Aslanov]

Dividing Azerbaijan.

And only thing left to Azeris: Bakinskaya Respublika.

[Federate]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

That's a nice map. It's a shame the Azeris have oppressed and forcefully assimilated many Lezgis already in order to hide their true numbers.

Did you know the Talysh once had a short-lived state while the Artsakh war was happening? Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talysh-...omous_Republic

What can you tell me about the Avars and their numbers/strength in Azerbaijan?

[Yakamoz]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

Avars are also a type of Turkic people this doesn't change the fact

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Avars

[Aslanov]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

Avars are also a type of Turkic people this doesn't change the fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Avars

I m an Azerbaijani Avar.

Even tho i would like to have our own Avar state, i m not too unhappy with Azerbaijan either.

Avars of Caucasus have nothing to do with Turkic Avars whom don't even exist now.

We are a North Caucasian people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Avars

And we don't even call ourselves Avar but MAARUL.

[Aslanov]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

People in Turkey always mistake Caucasian Avars for Turkic Avars.

We are a North Caucasian people, zero Turkic.

[Yakamoz]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

This is scientific mistake... Because both groups are called " Avar "

BTW, What is your religion ? Are you orthodox ?

[Federate]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

This is scientific mistake... Because both groups are called " Avar "

This logic is flawed. There's Albania and there was Caucasian Albania and one has nothing to do with the other.

[Aslanov]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

That's a nice map. It's a shame the Azeris have oppressed and forcefully assimilated many Lezgis already in order to hide their true numbers.

Did you know the Talysh once had a short-lived state while the Artsakh war was happening? Check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talysh-...omous_Republic

What can you tell me about the Avars and their numbers/strength in Azerbaijan?

Have you heard of Lezgin organization called Sadval?

Well, GOV says we are only 50-100 thousound but its a lie. We are at least 200 thousound. The thing is, there are so many assimilated Avars.

Modern population of districts like Qakh, Zaqatala and Balaken are all Avar in-fact but mostly assimilated.

Lezgin number are officially 200 thousound but they must be near 1 million.

Avars try to do something but the Lezgin issue can actually became something like Ossetia in future.

But you see my avatar?

Its the flag of Azerbaijani Avars wich GOV considers "separatist".

[Aslanov]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

This is scientific mistake... Because both groups are called " Avar "

BTW, What is your religion ? Are you orthodox ?

We speak a North-East Caucasian language. Isn't it enough?

You must be out of your mind to call a Pure Caucasian people as Turkic.

Avars are the biggest ethnic group of Dagestan, btw.

We were Orthodox before converting but all Maaruls are Muslim now.

[Federate]

Re: Artsakh, Lezgistan, Avaristan, Taloshistan

Have you heard of Lezgin organization called Sadval?

Well, GOV says we are only 50-100 thousound but its a lie. We are at least 200 thousound. The thing is, there are so many assimilated Avars.

Modern population of districts like Qakh, Zaqatala and Balaken are all Avar in-fact but mostly assimilated.

Lezgin number are officially 200 thousound but they must be near 1 million.

Avars try to do something but the Lezgin issue can actually became something like Ossetia in future.

But you see my avatar?

Its the flag of Azerbaijani Avars wich GOV considers "separatist".

Yes, I have heard of Sadval and totally agree that it has a potential to be the next Ossetia in the future. Russia has many Lezgins on its border with Azerbaijan and the situation parallels North Ossetia/South Ossetia. Russia can easily play the Lezgin card one day and invade Azerbaijan if it misbehaves. In the meantime, it should start funding Sadval in order to destabilise Azerbaijan. Perhaps the Lezgins should contact representatives from Artsakh and cooperate in the future as well.