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whitelotus
01-16-2004, 09:02 PM
what are youre ideas on Marriage?

do you really care about some stupid paper that says you are married?

i personally dont give a xxxx if i have a paper telling me i am married. If i love someone and he loves me back....some stupid ring, wedding recception or paper doesnt mean anything.

two people can love one another, live with one another and have children..without some xxxxing paper making a difference in there lives.

does it really matter?

personally a piece of paper doesnt change the fact that i love a certain person and they love me.

but sadly society looks down on people who live with one another and have children, who arent married... they care about stupid xxxx like this.

whats kind of sad is that some people marry for a wedding party lol.

does the party matter or the person you are married to ?

all shallow xxxx if you ask me

in the end does youre love matter or does a stupid ring matter ? or a paper ?


ps. emil does this belong in love and romance ?

Emil
01-16-2004, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by whitelotus ps. emil does this belong in love and romance ?

Yes.

PASAMONSTER
01-16-2004, 09:08 PM
wow
a girl that wants to be married for the sake of love

no wedding ceremony, no ring.

marriage is the commitement that two people make to each other in the name of love. well something like that.

paper is needed for legal purposes and for taxes

paper (marriage certificate) can't be complete without a ceremony priest or judge.

as for the wedding partty its for the memory of the start of the greatest days of your lives.

lotus marry me?
we'll have a small wedding on a boat.
and you'll have a 1.66 karrat ring as a small token of my love


























LLLLOOOLLL

Emil
01-16-2004, 09:12 PM
I really don't care if I get married the "correct' way. Church, big reception, blah blah blah. I think it's all a waste of money. Sure it's nice, having family members you've never seen :rolleyes: get drunk and dance. It's so expensive also, and in the Armenian tradition the guy pays for everything.

I would rather give a ring to a girl, and have a small ceremony. Drive-thru weddings at Vegas are cool. :D

whitelotus
01-16-2004, 09:13 PM
all for the dollar

whitelotus
01-16-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Emil I really don't care if I get married the "correct' way. Church, big reception, blah blah blah. I think it's all a waste of money. Sure it's nice, having family members you've never seen :rolleyes: get drunk and dance. It's so expensive also, and in the Armenian tradition the guy pays for everything.

I would rather give a ring to a girl, and have a small ceremony. Drive-thru weddings at Vegas are cool. :D

dont forget to dress up like elvis and enter the drive through with a pink convertable caddy :D

PASAMONSTER
01-16-2004, 09:19 PM
59 series 62 convertible caddy powder pink.

LOL Emil you're gonna have to wait a while the car won't be done until late september this year. when its that i'll be more then happy to loan it for you're wedding.

Anonymouse
01-17-2004, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by whitelotus what are youre ideas on Marriage?

do you really care about some stupid paper that says you are married?

i personally dont give a xxxx if i have a paper telling me i am married. If i love someone and he loves me back....some stupid ring, wedding recception or paper doesnt mean anything.

two people can love one another, live with one another and have children..without some xxxxing paper making a difference in there lives.

does it really matter?

personally a piece of paper doesnt change the fact that i love a certain person and they love me.

but sadly society looks down on people who live with one another and have children, who arent married... they care about stupid xxxx like this.

whats kind of sad is that some people marry for a wedding party lol.

does the party matter or the person you are married to ?

all shallow xxxx if you ask me

in the end does youre love matter or does a stupid ring matter ? or a paper ?


ps. emil does this belong in love and romance ?

Only in a stupid despotism does one require a "license" to get married. That "paper" is just another way for the State to intervene in my private life. xxxx the State and xxxx the paper.

patlajan
01-17-2004, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Anonymouse Only in a stupid despotism does one require a "license" to get married. That "paper" is just another way for the State to intervene in my private life. xxxx the State and xxxx the paper.

Is there any way to contain your nonsense? You're becoming a one dimentional cartoon, and it's freaking boring. Keep this up and you will go the way of speakenglishordie.

violette829
01-17-2004, 08:35 AM
Uh..I don't know and frankly, I don't care about what others get married for, but to me, marriage is a sacred vow taken by 2 people, in front of God (church ceremony), ur friends, family....and it means everything to me. I don't give a xxxx about the paper, it is there because of people like u guys, who don't really take it all that seriously. In America, people get married for the wrong reasons. Here's a little statistic for u people who want to just "live" with a person. First of all, no matter what u do, in California, if u live with a person for 7 years, you are LEGALLY married!!!!! Second, people who live together, and lets say later on, decide to get married....have a 86% divorce rate. That, u can see is much higher than the 50% that regular people have. Soooo, I don't understand how you can live with a man, knowing that he is not your husband. Do you plan to have kids with this man? If so, what the xxxx are u gonna tell them? LOL See, this is what is going wrong with society. Instead of being so xxxxin "modern", why don't we take family life, or at least some aspects of it, and bring it forth to apply to us now?

And about the guy having to pay for everything, uh, I dunno about u, but u should marry a girl who is willing to work with u to pay for the wedding together. Not all Armenian girls are money hungry Emil. My cousin and her husband paid for the wedding together. This is why she can be proud that she contributed to everything in the marriage and in her life.

Nuff said!
Vi:eek:

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 12:09 PM
My answer would be a carbon copy of Violette's.

Anonymouse
01-17-2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by patlajan Is there any way to contain your nonsense? You're becoming a one dimentional cartoon, and it's freaking boring. Keep this up and you will go the way of speakenglishordie.

Woe is me for the eggplant spoke. You pack about as much punch as a double arm amputee.

Artsakhtsi
01-17-2004, 01:28 PM
It has nothing to do with paper. I peronaly prefer a wedding in a beautiful haykakan church....with my family and near friends.... So that when i look back, i remember that beautiful moments... :)

Here in Sweden most of ppl (like½) prefer to live with each other, have children.... we call it *SAMBO* here...., works perfect for them.

whitelotus
01-17-2004, 02:34 PM
yes, i agree with you violette, it matters only to me when its blessed by god, not some state and not some law. Its much more sacrid then a piece of paper and text on it, saying you are married.

People get married, have children, buy a home, cars, take there kids to school, and in the end that marriage matters only, that bond, not some stupid paper or cirtificate.

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 02:41 PM
The sheet of paper is a meaningless hassle. If it meant anything to me, I would never have eloped to Vegas with a woman I had known for all of one week.

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname The sheet of paper is a meaningless hassle. If it meant anything to me, I would never have eloped to Vegas with a woman I had known for all of one week.

Marriage is not a childish game.

whitelotus
01-17-2004, 03:32 PM
i agree with you flames, its a big step, responsibility and change in someones life, its not to be taken so lightly.

now adays people get married and divorced so fast, like when a kid doesnt like the candy in there mouth, spits it out and gets another one.....in a blink of the eye.

people rush into marriage way too fast, for the lamest reasons. without thinking what might happen and how it might affect there life.

the divorce rate is getting up to 50 % i think, or is it 60% now ? thats gross if you think about it. Just imagine all the kids who are screwed in this whole process of divorce. What a tramatic experiance, because two adults were not thinking of consequences .

some marry for love, some marry for money, some marry for lust and sex.

i wonder what i will do one day, thats if i ever get married ...lol

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 03:46 PM
Like I said, I don't take the legal procedure seriously. I suppose there are a lot of laws that I don't take all that seriously. Loving someone I take very seriously. Loving someone that I expect to have children with and spend the rest of my life with I take very, very seriously.

whitelotus
01-17-2004, 03:48 PM
ditto loseyourname :D

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname Like I said, I don't take the legal procedure seriously. I suppose there are a lot of laws that I don't take all that seriously. Loving someone I take very seriously. Loving someone that I expect to have children with and spend the rest of my life with I take very, very seriously.

Let me ask you this...

How did your ex-wife take the divorce? And how long did the marriage last?

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 03:49 PM
She was going through opiate withdrawals and losing her apartment because her roommate was on speed. She didn't take it all that well. It lasted about a month and a half.

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname She was going through opiate withdrawals and losing her apartment because her roommate was on speed. She didn't take it all that well. It lasted about a month and a half.

Am I to assume that you were not her roommate? And if my assumption is correct, then why weren't you living with her if she was your spouse?

My question brought forth the answer that I was seeking. Although she sounds like she was messed up, just because you don't take marriage seriously, you ended up hurting someone in the process. Is that fair?

That's why all this paperwork is produced...because of people like you who take marriage as just another game.

whitelotus
01-17-2004, 03:56 PM
i think she hurt him more then he ever hurt her by getting a divorce, i think she was more selfish then he ever was, by getting a divorce

someone who loves drugs more then there spouse isnt worth it, in my opinion.

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by whitelotus i think she hurt him more then he ever hurt her by getting a divorce, i think she was more selfish then he ever was, by getting a divorce

someone who loves drugs more then there spouse isnt worth it, in my opinion.

Unless you have backgroud information that I'm not aware of, your response is based on groundless assumptions.

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 04:00 PM
I was not her roommate. I have not and will never use any addictive substances. She took the marriage no more seriously than I did. She knew what she was getting into. We were both doing it for a thrill. If she got hurt, it's her own damn fault, and yes, she hurt me just as much.

Obviously, Anna, you have never been with a suicidal addict. One night, I had somewhere to go, and she forced me to stay with her by swallowing an entire bottle of Xanax, thereby making me stay with her to keep her awake so that she would not die. That was the last straw.

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 04:03 PM
In addition, she would repeatedly insult me and taunt me then forget about it the next morning due to blackouts. She tore my mattress into pieces. She caused me to lose my own apartment. I have forgiven her and am now her friend, because I understand that she was not herself. Nonetheless, I could not stay married to her.

whitelotus
01-17-2004, 04:04 PM
yeah i have background info :D

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname In addition, she would repeatedly insult me and taunt me then forget about it the next morning due to blackouts. She tore my mattress into pieces. She caused me to lose my own apartment. I have forgiven her and am now her friend, because I understand that she was not herself. Nonetheless, I could not stay married to her.

Look, I don't blame you for her actions, and maybe yes, she did deserve to be hurt in the process. But marriage for me is a sacred vow between two people that are in love, and taking it lightly is not a virtue in my book. That's what I was trying to say.

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 04:17 PM
I don't recall saying I was virtuous. I acknowledge that what I did was impulsive and ill-founded. As I said, I take devotion and committment seriously, not the Clark County Marriage Board or the Little White Wedding Chapel. I do believe my divorce was justified.

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname I don't recall saying I was virtuous. I acknowledge that what I did was impulsive and ill-founded. As I said, I take devotion and committment seriously, not the Clark County Marriage Board or the Little White Wedding Chapel. I do believe my divorce was justified.

I don't recall saying if you were or not. Your marriage was not justified to begin with, but at least you realized this early on, when you are young, as opposed to when you're older and you have kids to put in jeopardy.

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 04:27 PM
I have intentionally gotten all of the xxxx-ups out of my system at a young age so as to avoid that very thing. I will not be having any mid-life crises.

Anonymouse
01-17-2004, 04:39 PM
Well, this thread lots its steam. Time to burry it.

sSsflamesSs
01-17-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Anonymouse Well, this thread lots its steam. Time to burry it.

Your comment is irrelevant to the thread.

loseyourname
01-17-2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Anonymouse Well, this thread lots its steam. Time to burry it.

You hackneyed insults do not faze me. They only show your own weakness.

Nimrod
01-20-2004, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by whitelotus what are youre ideas on Marriage?

do you really care about some stupid paper that says you are married?

i personally dont give a xxxx if i have a paper telling me i am married. If i love someone and he loves me back....some stupid ring, wedding recception or paper doesnt mean anything.

two people can love one another, live with one another and have children..without some xxxxing paper making a difference in there lives.

does it really matter?

personally a piece of paper doesnt change the fact that i love a certain person and they love me.

but sadly society looks down on people who live with one another and have children, who arent married... they care about stupid xxxx like this.

whats kind of sad is that some people marry for a wedding party lol.

does the party matter or the person you are married to ?

all shallow xxxx if you ask me

in the end does youre love matter or does a stupid ring matter ? or a paper ?


ps. emil does this belong in love and romance ?



Didn't anyone inform you that the purpose of language is to articulate meaning, and not just to convey a general sense of nervous distress?

whitelotus
01-20-2004, 11:29 PM
*insert flipping off smilie here*

fIReBuRntInHeLL
01-21-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by violette829 Uh..I don't know and frankly, I don't care about what others get married for, but to me, marriage is a sacred vow taken by 2 people, in front of God (church ceremony), ur friends, family....and it means everything to me. I don't give a xxxx about the paper, it is there because of people like u guys, who don't really take it all that seriously. In America, people get married for the wrong reasons. Here's a little statistic for u people who want to just "live" with a person. First of all, no matter what u do, in California, if u live with a person for 7 years, you are LEGALLY married!!!!! Second, people who live together, and lets say later on, decide to get married....have a 86% divorce rate. That, u can see is much higher than the 50% that regular people have. Soooo, I don't understand how you can live with a man, knowing that he is not your husband. Do you plan to have kids with this man? If so, what the xxxx are u gonna tell them? LOL See, this is what is going wrong with society. Instead of being so xxxxin "modern", why don't we take family life, or at least some aspects of it, and bring it forth to apply to us now?

And about the guy having to pay for everything, uh, I dunno about u, but u should marry a girl who is willing to work with u to pay for the wedding together. Not all Armenian girls are money hungry Emil. My cousin and her husband paid for the wedding together. This is why she can be proud that she contributed to everything in the marriage and in her life.

Nuff said!
Vi:eek:


Well said!
There is not matter of paper but for lifetime committement!

Anonymouse
01-21-2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname You hackneyed insults do not faze me. They only show your own weakness.

Marriage is just a bourgeois tool to control you and you've bought into it.

loseyourname
01-21-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Anonymouse Marriage is just a bourgeois tool to control you and you've bought into it.

After I have blatantly stated that I virutally no respect for the institution of marriage, you still say that? Do you even bother to read anything I write before you respond to this misconception of me you have in your head, or has all the Mary Jane just fried your circuits to the point where you can't comprehend what I'm saying?

Anonymouse
01-21-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname After I have blatantly stated that I virutally no respect for the institution of marriage, you still say that? Do you even bother to read anything I write before you respond to this misconception of me you have in your head, or has all the Mary Jane just fried your circuits to the point where you can't comprehend what I'm saying?

Be quiet you bourgeois scum.

loseyourname
01-21-2004, 03:27 PM
I guess I was right.

Anonymouse
01-21-2004, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by loseyourname I guess I was right.

It wasn't until the 12th century that marriage became sacramental.

SagGal
01-21-2004, 09:26 PM
Religion plays a huge role in marriage. It's not only the piece of paper because if it was just a paper, who needs it?

loseyourname
01-22-2004, 02:19 PM
I'm not religious and I don't think my love life is any of the state's business. I will either spend the rest of my life with someone or I will not. Nothing else means a damn thing - not legal documents, blessings from a minister, nor any amount of spoken vows.