Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

EU hypocrisy

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #11
    Re: EU hypocrisy

    OSCE "Strongly Condemns" Azerbaijan for Military Intrusion



    Today the three co-chair countries that mediate negotiations between Azerbaijan and Armenia, strongly condemned Azerbaijan's use of force in the region saying the use of force is an attempt to damage the peace process.

    The statement is published on OSCE's website and reads "The Co-Chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group, Ambassadors Bernard Fassier of France, Robert Bradtke of the United States of America, and Igor Popov of the Russian Federation strongly condemn the use of force and regret the senseless loss of life. Such an incident is an unacceptable violation of the 1994 Ceasefire Agreement and is contrary to the stated commitment of the sides to refrain from the use of force or the threat of the use of force."

    During the night of June 18 to 19 the Armed forces of Azerbaijan violated the 1994 ceasefire and intruded through the contact line of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic. The incident took the lives of five innocent soldiers: one from Azerbaijan and four from Nagorno Karabakh. The Co-chairs note that the this armed intrusion took place within hours of the trilateral summit that took place in St. Petersburg between the Presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan and was hosted by the president of the Russian Federation.

    It's been a long time since OSCE has shown some teeth and coming out with such a strong condemnation of the use of military force. While Azerbaijan has accepted the responsibility for the armed incidence, OSCE's condemnation does not unfortunately name Azerbaijan by its name, but just goes as far as condemning the "use of force." This is the weakness of this statement and while it is clearly directed at Azerbaijan it is time for the mediators to really see which of the sides is cooperating and which one is trying to damage the peace process.

    Yet, OSCE's statement has many strong points and is a welcome timely statement for the societies of both countries who want to live in peace.

    First it it condemns the use of force. Second, it calls any use of force as a violation of the 1994 ceasefire. This is important point because Azerbaijan has many times, including this weekend announced that the war is not ended and they leave the military option open if the negotiations fail. The third, is that the use of military force "can only be seen as an attempt to damage the peace proceeds." Thus, whoever starts using the military force will be seen as the responsible party that damages the peace process and will be accountable for it.

    The fourth strong point is the most important and the only way leading to final peace: its the preparation of the societies for peace. The co-chairs called on the sides to show restraint when communicating with their societies. The statement reads that it's time to "prepare their population for peace and not for war. They reiterate that there is no alternative to a peaceful negotiation solution of the conflict and that war is not an option."

    The importance of this last point cannot be overestimated. No president or a leader can sell even the most honorable compromise to his own people if his society is not ready for peace and is very militant in its disposition toward the other side. While Armenia is clearly not responsible for this military intrusion it is time for Azerbaijan to reconsider its military mentality and look for peace. At the end of the day this entire problem is about what it takes for the people of the region to leave peacefully. If it only takes Nagorno Karabakh's independence so it may be. If it takes war and ethnic cleaning, the international community does not see it that way and the Co-chairs of the Minsk Group representing USA, Russia and France clearly say on behalf of OSCE that "there is no alternative to a peaceful negotiation solution of the conflict."

    This is the high time for the presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia to prepare their societies for peace. This conflict is not about a piece of land, but about a peaceful co-existence of people and they have the right determine their future.

    Written by Armen Hareyan
    HULIQ.com

    Submitted by Armen Hareyan on 2010-06-21

    Comment


    • #12
      Re: EU hypocrisy

      That's the OSCE that includes Russia.

      The EU has condemned elections in Karabakh every time they have taken place.

      Armenians have not reacted to this hypocrisy. The EU has no role to play if all it will do is re-inforce the Azerbaijani position.

      Comment


      • #13
        Re: EU hypocrisy

        This is just unbelievable, what has the world come to, UNESCO (Western based organization) has nominated Azerbaijan for the UNESCO’s Intergovernmental Committee for the Protection of the Cultural and Natural Heritage!?!? A country who DESTROYS ancient monuments gets nominated whereas Armenia did not.

        xxxx Europe, xxxx the UN, xxxx the whole world, this is the millionth example of why we should do things our Armenian way, yes, we should modernize our country and build a strong economy and have good relations with all the countries in the world, but we are not European, we are Armenian and we should strive to build a country our own Armenian way.

        Furthermore, being peaceful does not count in this world, it's the other way around. No what are Armenians doing... preserving their mosque in Artsakh.

        We should erase every little thing that has to do with Azerbaijan and in the new war show them what a real Khojaly is (it doesn't make a difference, if we do it or not they will still make the wildest claims). They do not deserve to breath the air we breath.

        Azerbaijan nominates its candidacy for UNESCO’s Intergovernmental Committee for the Protection of the Cultural and Natural Heritage

        Azerbaijan has nominated its candidacy for UNESCO’s Intergovernmental Committee for the Protection of the Cultural and Natural Heritage on 2010-2014, press service of the Foreign Ministry told.

        It must be noted that the Committee is one of the authoritative bodies of the organization. The issue on UNESCO World Cultural and Natural Heritage List is being discussed at this Committee and appropriate decisions are made.

        Azerbaijani membership in this Committee will make opportunity for our country to play significant role in the discussion of issues related to protection of the cultural and natural heritage of the world, as well as help to function actively in direction of including Azerbaijan’s cultural heritage into UNESCO’s World Cultural and Natural Heritage List.

        Note that, elections for Intergovernmental Committee was held during 3rd session of participant states of UNESCO World Heritage Convention held in Paris on June 22-24 of current year.

        For the purpose of achievement the support for Azerbaijan’s candidacy appropriate works have been done and meetings were held by Azerbaijan Republic’s National Commission on UNESCO, Standing Representation of Azerbaijan Republic under UNESCO and diplomatic representations of Azerbaijan Republic functioning abroad.

        Today, as a result of expedient work carried out by Foreign Ministry and other related organs, Azerbaijan has been selected as a member of UNESCO’s Intergovernmental Committee for the Protection of the Cultural and Natural Heritage on 2010-2014.

        UNESCO’s Intergovernmental Committee for the Protection of the Cultural and Natural Heritage consists of 24 representatives. Along with Azerbaijan, Armenia which nominated its candidacy as well, sustained a defeat during elections because of minority of votes.
        Last edited by Tigranakert; 06-27-2010, 05:15 PM.

        Comment


        • #14
          Re: EU hypocrisy

          I cant f ucking believe them what kind of idiots are in charge...this is an example of how world has no clue of what is going on in Caucasus or what the azeris are really done...this reminds me the south ossetia war when the western tv propaganda posted russians as invaders twisting the facts around...hiding the truth...there were easy for them cause there audience has no clue about what is georgia and what were really going on..

          Comment


          • #15
            Re: EU hypocrisy

            They have a clue, they are just biased and anti-Armenian. Azerbaijan has oil and a stupid population which is easy to control, that's why they support Azerbaboonistan. Everything Western is biased and we should look out for the EU-disease.

            We should rip off as much money as we can from those bastards and maintain good economic ties, but never political and always be aware of their true intentions, which is anti-Armenian.

            Comment


            • #16
              Re: EU hypocrisy

              Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
              They have a clue, they are just biased and anti-Armenian. Azerbaijan has oil and a stupid population which is easy to control, that's why they support Azerbaboonistan. Everything Western is biased and we should look out for the EU-disease.

              We should rip off as much money as we can from those bastards and maintain good economic ties, but never political and always be aware of their true intentions, which is anti-Armenian.
              From what I gather, the Eurozone and the Euro currency is on the brink of collapse seeing that the debt levels of governments and citizens is unsustainable. There is no need to worry about Western governments as they are about to bury themselves in the hole that they created. This includes Canada, US, Britain, etc. They are all based on a fake economy driven by debt.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

              Comment

              Working...
              X