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  • #71
    Re: The Ottomans

    Originally posted by lampron View Post
    Hellektor, it is impossible not to be moved by the accounts of Aristakes of Lastivert. Even if there might be some one sidedness, there is probably no doubt that terrible things happened.

    In the life of individuals as well as nations there are challenges. Christianity teaches us to be prepared for hard times and calamities. Do church leaders prepare the masses? Much of world history is about empire builders and victims. The Othmans, or Seljuks or Oghuz or Ak-koyunlu, Kara-koyunlu etc took advantage of the Armenians' inability to organize and fight. Whether it was the Byzantines, Bulgarians, Armenia's poor geography,the cruelty of the Seljuks, Turks etc...in the end, it was down to the Armenians to free themselves from oppression. The Russians did it by themselves (from the Tatars) but not Armenians, Greeks etc
    lampron,

    Actually it wasn't just the Turks, it was also the Zionist J*e*w*s. Unfortunate for us Armenians, that to create Israel for themselves, the Zionist J*e*w*s mumbled in Abdul Hamid's ears and influenced Abdul Hamid to massacre 300,000 Armenians from 1895-1896. It was the Zionist J*e*w*s such as Talaat, Gemal and Beaheddin Shakir who threw off Abdul Hamid and took over the Turkish throne and sat on it with their bank monies that they brought in from Italy. Finally, it was them who created the WWI then the other Zionist Communist J*e*w*s ruthlessly got hold of the Russian Empire with their supposedly communism to free their J*e*w*ish brethren to be able to get out of Russia. We cannot put all the blame on the Turks for the Armenian Genocide; but half of the blame goes to the Zionist J*e*w*s. After all, it was the Zionist J*e*w*ish Talaat who gave the order to mutilate then annihilate all the Christians from Anatolia; at least 1.5 Million Armenians, as well as 800,000 Greeks and 800,000 Assyrian Christians.

    Yes, half of the blame goes to the turks and the other half of the blame goes to the Zionist Doenme J*E*W*s who called themselves Attaturks.
    Last edited by Anoush; 07-05-2008, 11:59 AM.

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    • #72
      Re: The Ottomans

      Turks hate J-ews! and Turkey is not based on zionism

      What a nonsense!!!

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      • #73
        Re: The Ottomans

        Originally posted by Kanki View Post
        Turks hate J-ews! and Turkey is not based on zionism

        What a nonsense!!!
        They may hate turks now and even then; but for their own good the Zionist Doenme J*e*w*s got over your country and got over your throne to make turkey the sick man of Europe to create their Jerusalem of today. Armenians were the bread and butter of Turkey and they wanted us all massacred for their own use and their malignant ways and deeds.

        Open your eyes and find out the truth, for the truth will make you free!!!!!!!!

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        • #74
          Re: The Ottomans

          Originally posted by Anoush View Post
          They may hate turks now and even then; but for their own good the Zionist Doenme J*e*w*s got over your country and got over your throne to make turkey the sick man of Europe to create their Jerusalem of today. Armenians were the bread and butter of Turkey and they wanted us all massacred for their own use and their malignant ways and deeds.

          Open your eyes and find out the truth, for the truth will make you free!!!!!!!!
          Only our stupid leaders try to good relations, but it doesn't show and present Turkish people

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          • #75
            Re: The Ottomans

            Originally posted by Kanki View Post
            Only our stupid leaders try to good relations, but it doesn't show and present Turkish people
            I believe the turkish people are very patriotic, maybe more than us Armenians. But it will take a lot of years for the good relations to materialize, then when and if it does; a new administration will probably come about and they may not want good relations with us. I don't even know if at all will work out. I don't know the mentality of most of the turkish people; but I do know that there are some that have prestige and open mindedness such as Orhan Pamuk and other highly acclaimed scholars that want the truth to prevail.

            Your stupid leaders as you call them, they want good relations with Armenia and it seems to me that you are against them. Your leaders want good relations because we are neighbours and it is a good policy to get along with neighbours. Also, your leaders are looked upon by the world and the European Union that turkey wants to get into. That's another reason why the Turkish government wants to get along with Armenians. I wouldn't call that stupid.
            Last edited by Anoush; 07-05-2008, 12:35 PM.

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            • #76
              Re: The Ottomans

              Orhan Pamuk is a J-E-Wish crap his father is JE-w! He doesn't live in Turkey now.

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              • #77
                Re: The Ottomans

                Originally posted by Kanki View Post
                Orhan Pamuk is a J-E-Wish crap his father is JE-w! He doesn't live in Turkey now.
                Orhan Pamuk is one guy I take my hat's off!!!! He wasn't given the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing. I wish most of your Turkish people would follow his footsteps!!!!!

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                • #78
                  Re: The Ottomans

                  shalom

                  are you two crypto nazis or what?

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                  • #79
                    Re: The Ottomans

                    Originally posted by dani87 View Post
                    shalom

                    are you two crypto nazis or what?
                    Why are you????

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                    • #80
                      Re: The Ottomans

                      Originally posted by Anoush View Post
                      Why are you????
                      no but I wonder would you kill a Zionist JûW if sighted?

                      and if so would you do it just it just like that?

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