Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 1
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous template Next
  • #1

    Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

    Anyone think the exhibition mentions that the Armenians were deported from Nakhichevan?

    Isfahan: the new capital
    Shah ʿAbbas made Isfahan his new capital in 1598 and it became his main administrative city and the seat of his power. He completed an ambitious building programme, including the construction of a royal palace and his personal mosque (named after his father-in-law and spiritual advisor Shaykh Lutf Allah) as well as new quarters for the Safavid elite and the Armenian merchant class which drove Iran’s international silk trade. It was also the site of the royal artists’ workshop, led by the famous calligrapher Ali Riza ʿAbbasi.

    Past exhibitions
    http://www.britishmuseum.org/whats_on/future_exhibitions/shah_abbas.aspx
    Take a look at our past exhibitions and enjoy the articles, videos and image galleries still available to view online.
    Tags: None
  • #2
    Re: Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

    There was a discussion about the exhibition in Newsnight Review, in which it was pointed out that it did not mention this, and that the exhibition actually claimed that Abbas was very tolerant to minority groups, especially Armenians. "Deporting people from one place to another doesn't sound particularly tolerant", commented one of the reviewers! The opinion was that the exhibition contained a lot of distortions and Iranian propaganda, but the exhibits themselves were well worth seeing.
    It reminds me of the "The Turks" exhibition that the Royal Academy held a few years ago - only in that case the propaganda didn't extend to the exhibition catalogue.
    Plenipotentiary meow!

    Comment

    • #3
      Re: Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

      Originally posted by TomServo View Post
      Anyone think the exhibition mentions that the Armenians were deported from Nakhichevan?

      Isfahan: the new capital
      Shah ʿAbbas made Isfahan his new capital in 1598 and it became his main administrative city and the seat of his power. He completed an ambitious building programme, including the construction of a royal palace and his personal mosque (named after his father-in-law and spiritual advisor Shaykh Lutf Allah) as well as new quarters for the Safavid elite and the Armenian merchant class which drove Iran’s international silk trade. It was also the site of the royal artists’ workshop, led by the famous calligrapher Ali Riza ʿAbbasi.

      http://www.britishmuseum.org/whats_o...hah_abbas.aspx

      Born in Tehran I have been to Isfahan several times, it is beautiful ancient city. Shah Abbas liked Armenians. He was also a good King.
      B0zkurt Hunter

      Comment

      • #4
        Re: Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

        Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
        There was a discussion about the exhibition in Newsnight Review, in which it was pointed out that it did not mention this, and that the exhibition actually claimed that Abbas was very tolerant to minority groups, especially Armenians. "Deporting people from one place to another doesn't sound particularly tolerant", commented one of the reviewers! The opinion was that the exhibition contained a lot of distortions and Iranian propaganda, but the exhibits themselves were well worth seeing.
        It reminds me of the "The Turks" exhibition that the Royal Academy held a few years ago - only in that case the propaganda didn't extend to the exhibition catalogue.
        Gahhh!!!

        I love Newsnight Review and watch their archived reviews online, since you have to be in the UK to view their latest broadcast. Though the Shah Abbas exhibition is listed, they have only uploaded their review of The Class so far? Get to it, BBC.

        Comment

        • #5
          Re: Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

          Wait, I can watch it with Windows Media Player!

          The quality is awful, but I can watch it!

          Comment

          • #6
            Re: Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

            The Art of Museum Diplomacy TIME

            The Iran on show is a far cry from the cliched picture of an angry,
            anti-U.S. Islamic state with a Holocaust-denying President. Under
            Shah 'Abbas, Iran became a center of diplomacy and trade. Glorious
            paintings from the early 17th century depict British envoys
            who traded gold and silver for silk rugs; other prints capture
            negotiations in which Iranians mingle with Uzbeks and Indians. Like
            his contemporary Elizabeth I, Shah 'Abbas waged war to defend his
            nation's territory. But unlike England, MacGregor says, the Shah's Iran
            "accommodated other faiths," as seen by gospels beautifully illustrated
            by Armenian Christians who were forcibly resettled in Iran from 1603.

            Comment

            • #7
              Re: Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

              The remaking of Iran: empire of the senses Telegraph.co.uk

              In New Julfa, a suburb south of Isfahan across the Zayandeh river, there is a community of Armenian Christians. Abbas transported thousands of them forcibly from their homes in the original town of Julfa – then perilously close to the Ottoman frontier, now in modern Azerbaijan. It was worth moving the Armenians to Isfahan – and treating them with respect – because of their skills in silk weaving and trading. The silk trade was crucial to the prosperity of Iran.

              We had visited the Armenian cathedral before moving on to the bazaar. It is a quite extraordinary transcultural composite in which biblical scenes in a European baroque style are, it seems, just stuck as if in a collage on top of the richly decorated tile work characteristic of 17th-century Isfahan. MacGregor was fascinated by this example of art-history interfusion, delivering an eloquent and impromptu mini-lecture on the spot.

              Comment

              • #8
                Re: Shah Abbas: The Remaking of Iran at the British Museum

                Originally posted by TomServo View Post
                In New Julfa, a suburb south of Isfahan across the Zayandeh river, there is a community of Armenian Christians. Abbas transported thousands of them forcibly from their homes in the original town of Julfa – then perilously close to the Ottoman frontier, now in modern Azerbaijan. It was worth moving the Armenians to Isfahan – and treating them with respect – because of their skills in silk weaving and trading. The silk trade was crucial to the prosperity of Iran.
                Makes it look like Abbas was doing them a favour - evacuating them from a dangerous region. Silence about the burning of Julfa, the thousands who drowned while being forced to cross the river Arax, and the thousands more who died on the way to that new "art-history interfusion".
                Plenipotentiary meow!

                Comment

                Previous template Next
                Working...
                X