Question on genetics

[Eddo211]

Re: Question on genetics

We were fighting Turks with Persians long before they reached Armenian highlands. Turks mostly used Janissaries (stolen Christian babies) trained grown sent to fight their own kind. No matter how many we killed they kept coming. Todays Turks are pussies compared to their slant eye ancestors.

[Chubs]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

One does not migrate to an area and be called indeginous. On the two sites presented by chubs there is no evidence presented that suggests turcs are indigenous to Anatolia or the highlands of Hayastan. The data simply confirms rape by a smaller group onto a much larger group on a massive and persistent basis for hundreds of years. Not to be confused with being indigenous to the land.
Insofar as my threatening your mouthy xxxxxxx act ... It is you chubs, not me who speaks so rudely and insulting. I have asked you to speak without your insults but you continue.
A threat (lol) ??? Chubs I told you you should talk over the Internet as if you were standing next to that person. When I get down there you will have that golden opportunity. You could not possibly sit at a table with men and sling such insulting talk. It's not a threat xxxxxxx it's an opportunity.
There is no racism in saying the truth, turcs did not originate there.
The turcs overran ME , our highlands, Greece, Albania etc. they weren't any nicer or decent then anymore than the genocides and their kin.
One of the sites presented by the punk is a turc scholarly work and the other I saw no author(s). Neither is indicative of indeginous to the land but only shows rape on a massive scale.
I'll see how you talk when I stand next to you.
How unfortunate for me I have to waste some of my vacation time.
For all to see--- read my posts and read the mouths posts. You will see who uses insults .

It is you chubs, not me who speaks so rudely and insulting.

Calling you out on your racism isn't insulting you.

On the two sites presented by chubs there is no evidence presented that suggests turcs are indigenous to Anatolia

Those aren't sites you fool, those are genetic studies. Read the abstracts. If those people are descended from indigenous peoples then they are indigenous, even if they converted to Islam and changed their language. Using your logic the people living there during the Byzantine times were never indigenous because they adopted Greek and Orthodox faith. How can I expect you to understand when you dont even know how to spell indigenous.

A threat (lol) ??? Chubs I told you you should talk over the Internet as if you were standing next to that person.

Well that basically confirms that you:

1. Are an old man

2. Have only been on one side of the internet for a restricted period of time

One of the sites presented by the punk is a turc scholarly work and the other I saw no author(s). Neither is indicative of indeginous to the land but only shows rape on a massive scale

Turkish nationalism is driven by the idea that Turks are from Central Asia and are part of a mythical "Turan" race. This falsifies that. Its moronic for you to deny it just because the SCIENTIST was Turkish. Also racist.

I'll see how you talk when I stand next to you.
How unfortunate for me I have to waste some of my vacation time.

Oh, I can't wait Artashes. Trust me, you wont waist any vacation time. Im currently residing in St. Petersburg, the sites are wonderful. Im sure you would enjoy it

[Artashes]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Well you're partially correct. The first legit turks were probably sejkuks who migrated from present day Kazakhstan and caspian area and mixed with the local Anatolian population

You summarized In a very nice way,I studied Armenian history back in college and It says Turks were migrated and mixed with local population,no need to start fight over it

The issue is the extent that they mixed. Science has proven they have mixed to a very little extent. Central Asian DNA is practically non-existent in modern day Turks.


Ill bring up the issue of Artashes threatening me for the second time to the moderators formally, I suggest these posts are deleted and the topic restored. Ive taken screenshots for the moderators.

Artashes, I know you very old compared to most users here. You act like a 15 year old though, which is sad.

One does not migrate to an area and be called indeginous. On the two sites presented by chubs there is no evidence presented that suggests turcs are indigenous to Anatolia or the highlands of Hayastan. The data simply confirms rape by a smaller group onto a much larger group on a massive and persistent basis for hundreds of years. Not to be confused with being indigenous to the land.
Insofar as my threatening your mouthy xxxxxxx act ... It is you chubs, not me who speaks so rudely and insulting. I have asked you to speak without your insults but you continue.
A threat (lol) ??? Chubs I told you you should talk over the Internet as if you were standing next to that person. When I get down there you will have that golden opportunity. You could not possibly sit at a table with men and sling such insulting talk. It's not a threat xxxxxxx it's an opportunity.
There is no racism in saying the truth, turcs did not originate there.
The turcs overran ME , our highlands, Greece, Albania etc. they weren't any nicer or decent then anymore than the genocides and their kin.
One of the sites presented by the punk is a turc scholarly work and the other I saw no author(s). Neither is indicative of indeginous to the land but only shows rape on a massive scale.
I'll see how you talk when I stand next to you.
How unfortunate for me I have to waste some of my vacation time.
For all to see--- read my posts and read the mouths posts. You will see who uses insults .

[Chubs]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

You summarized In a very nice way,I studied Armenian history back in college and It says Turks were migrated and mixed with local population,no need to start fight over it

The issue is the extent that they mixed. Science has proven they have mixed to a very little extent. Central Asian DNA is practically non-existent in modern day Turks.


Ill bring up the issue of Artashes threatening me for the second time to the moderators formally, I suggest these posts are deleted and the topic restored. Ive taken screenshots for the moderators.

Artashes, I know you very old compared to most users here. You act like a 15 year old though, which is sad.

[argin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Well you're partially correct. The first legit turks were probably sejkuks who migrated from present day Kazakhstan and caspian area and mixed with the local Anatolian population

You summarized In a very nice way,I studied Armenian history back in college and It says Turks were migrated and mixed with local population,no need to start fight over it

[Ak105]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I know this is a joke, but Turks are not from Central Asia and we all know that. Turks are just as indigenous to Anatolia and North of the Kura as Armenians are to the Armenian highlands

They are just a bunch of islamized Greeks, Arabs, Persians, and some Armenians too. They had a Turkic language imposed on them.

Well you're partially correct. The first legit turks were probably sejkuks who migrated from present day Kazakhstan and caspian area and mixed with the local Anatolian population

[Chubs]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

You no nothing about science to say such absurd things.
To think that the raping of the indigenous people's of Anatolia means the turc is indigenous to the land of the people they raped is absurd.
The path of the seljerks and the tatar into Anatolia is well documented. They are not from there. Ay fkn fool knows that. But your not any fkn fool you god damn fkn mouthy punk.
No racism in the hatred of the murderous turc. Just hatred.
It's already been proven (lol), care to show everyone on the forum your proof of utter nonsense.
Keep runnin your mouth fat boy. I'll be down there relatively soon.
You and I are going to meet you moronic mouthy xxxxxxx.

Here are scientific studies, I hope you can read Smart talk Artashes:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1034/j.1399-0039.2001.057004308.x/abstract;jsessionid=D43C0D07C2A0390666874B80660CD3B1.f01t04

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00439-003-1031-4

Keep runnin your mouth fat boy. I'll be down there relatively soon.

LOL. 2nd time you have threatened me over the Internet. Do you think Im stupid? Ive had my address leaked on websites for Neo-Nazis, and all they did was send me free pizzas. Im kinda hungry, what do you plan on sending me Artashes? 12 pounds of lavash?

To the moderators????? You sit by and allow this person to break obvious universal rules on most forums?

You ban regular Armenians talking about their heritage, culture, and politics, but allow this absolute racist, and moronic old man to run his mouth about things he knows nothing about. You also allow him to continue to threaten users????

You and I are going to meet you moronic mouthy

Oh man, Im so scared right now. Someone just threatened to find me on the internet. Thats never happened before. Keep talking tough old man. Ive seen 12 year olds threaten me in a much more serious and descriptive manner than you.

Artashes Im suprised you know how to work a computer.

[Artashes]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Artashes you know nothing of modern day science. Its already been proven, they are mainly descended from people who lived in the Byzantine Empire at the time. Most of which being Greeks and native Anatolians. Some being Armenian and people related to Armenians.

Your racism is showing, I suggest you tuck it back into your pants where it belongs son.

You no nothing about science to say such absurd things.
To think that the raping of the indigenous people's of Anatolia means the turc is indigenous to the land of the people they raped is absurd.
The path of the seljerks and the tatar into Anatolia is well documented. They are not from there. Ay fkn fool knows that. But your not any fkn fool you god damn fkn mouthy punk.
No racism in the hatred of the murderous turc. Just hatred.
It's already been proven (lol), care to show everyone on the forum your proof of utter nonsense.
Keep runnin your mouth fat boy. I'll be down there relatively soon.
You and I are going to meet you moronic mouthy xxxxxxx.

[Chubs]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Utter nonsense.
Turcs aren't indigenous to Anatolia . Not remotely.
After centuries of raping they may not look like turcs from central Asia , but that's their origination .
Islamized Greeks,Arabs, Persians etc. if you mean like the Hamshen Armenians, no.
Rape wherever they went, but they are turc from Asia.

Artashes you know nothing of modern day science. Its already been proven, they are mainly descended from people who lived in the Byzantine Empire at the time. Most of which being Greeks and native Anatolians. Some being Armenian and people related to Armenians.

Your racism is showing, I suggest you tuck it back into your pants where it belongs son.

Allow me to remind you that most people who lived in Western Turkey/Byzantine Empire were native Anatolians who adopted Greek as their language. They were language hoppers, and they did it alot. This was called Hellenization and was quickly followed by Turkification.

Turkification and forced assimilation was relatively easy among these people, while the the rural peoples like Armenians, Kurds, Assyrians ,etc it was much harder.

[Artashes]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I know this is a joke, but Turks are not from Central Asia and we all know that. Turks are just as indigenous to Anatolia and North of the Kura as Armenians are to the Armenian highlands

They are just a bunch of islamized Greeks, Arabs, Persians, and some Armenians too. They had a Turkic language imposed on them.

Utter nonsense.
Turcs aren't indigenous to Anatolia . Not remotely.
After centuries of raping they may not look like turcs from central Asia , but that's their origination .
Islamized Greeks,Arabs, Persians etc. if you mean like the Hamshen Armenians, no.
Rape wherever they went, but they are turc from Asia.