Dumbarse Armenia!

[ArmenianKid]

hayq. i was not born in armenian. i have not been to armenia. my dad and mom where both born there, so im the first to not be born there. does that make me less of a armenian?

[Kaf]

I think CatWoman thinks more reasonably than Anonymouse. The problem with Armenians is that they always compete with everybody about olderness and firstness, which is a funny subject for many and the result of a bogus soviet propaganda. 1918 Armenians begun war against Georgia. 1990 Armenians begun war against Azerbaijan. Why don't we look again through the historical facts and finally try to understand WHY THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE US. Particularly our historical brothers Geo and Az and the rest of the north Caucasus.

[ArmenianKid]

geo and az will never get along with armenia

[winoman]

I think CatWoman thinks more reasonably than Anonymouse. The problem with Armenians is that they always compete with everybody about olderness and firstness, which is a funny subject for many and the result of a bogus soviet propaganda. 1918 Armenians begun war against Georgia. 1990 Armenians begun war against Azerbaijan. Why don't we look again through the historical facts and finally try to understand WHY THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE US. Particularly our historical brothers Geo and Az and the rest of the north Caucasus.

I find it hard to believe that you are Armenian (to say "us" in this pathetic posting). I am particualry amused by your claim that Armenia began the war vs Azerjaiban in 1990 (BS!). But I suppose you also feel that the Turks joined WWI on the side of the Germans because all the rest of Europe was against/after them and in order to prevent an armed Armenian uprising (yes what horrible warmongers we are)....

[ArmenianKid]

I find it hard to believe that you are Armenian (to say "us" in this pathetic posting). I am particualry amused by your claim that Armenia began the war vs Azerjaiban in 1990 (BS!). But I suppose you also feel that the Turks joined WWI on the side of the Germans because all the rest of Europe was against/after them and in order to prevent an armed Armenian uprising (yes what horrible warmongers we are)....

thank you winoman. i have never been to armenia but of all the people i know that are armenian even my dad who fought in the armenian military the last thing they want is war. armenia did not start the war of 1990 and there is very little evidence pointing the other way.

[CatWoman]

I think CatWoman thinks more reasonably than Anonymouse. The problem with Armenians is that they always compete with everybody about olderness and firstness, which is a funny subject for many and the result of a bogus soviet propaganda. 1918 Armenians begun war against Georgia. 1990 Armenians begun war against Azerbaijan. Why don't we look again through the historical facts and finally try to understand WHY THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE US. Particularly our historical brothers Geo and Az and the rest of the north Caucasus.

I agree with Wino here. I don't think you're Armenian. We all know why those who don't like us feel that way and honestly I could care less. If you were an Armenian you would know the motives behind the karabakh war with Azerbaijan, besides the fact that Karabakh was part of the historical Armenian, we didn't fight the war for 'olderness' or 'firstness' as you call it. We fought it for its predominantely Armenian population and how unfairly they were being treated under Azerbaijnan's control. It's in much better hands now, it's economy continues to grow, its GDP grew 20% in 2003, something that would've never happened if it had stayed with Azerbaijan.

Now about Georgia, you guys I KNOW they haven't acted nicely towards Armenians but it's getting better and I belive since we only have relations with 2 out of 4 of our neighbors, we can't risk loosing them.

[ArmenianKid]

I agree with Wino here. I don't think you're Armenian. We all know why those who don't like us feel that way and honestly I could care less. If you were an Armenian you would know the motives behind the karabakh war with Azerbaijan, besides the fact that Karabakh was part of the historical Armenian, we didn't fight the war for 'olderness' or 'firstness' as you call it. We fought it for its predominantely Armenian population and how unfairly they were being treated under Azerbaijnan's control. It's in much better hands now, it's economy continues to grow, its GDP grew 20% in 2003, something that would've never happened if it had stayed with Azerbaijan.

Now about Georgia, you guys I KNOW they haven't acted nicely towards Armenians but it's getting better and I belive since we only have relations with 2 out of 4 of our neighbors, we can't risk loosing them.

i totaly agree. some one cant think that way about their own people.

[Kaf]

Hi everybody. Well, let's try to look at Armenia from a different standpoint, from a different paradigm with more fresh thoughts and, as much as possible, objectivity. Otherwise we will be engulfed by the passionate patriotism distorting the reality, which is oppressive and aggressive around Armenia now. Believe me or not I am more Armenian than you are all, as I was born there and live there, but unfortunately I am now temporarily out of the country for the job search purposes. Somebody said that GDP in Armenia grew by 20 % in 2003. You are wrong, it grown by 25 in fact. Is that realistic you think? As a rule the GDP trends are so high only in cases of high rate of emigration from the country. The population decreases and whatever small enterprises are they start matching the needs of the small population. Yerevan in empty after 6 o’clock and not because of criminal situation. No, the city is very well secured. The reason is that nobody remains there to live. Turkey is closed, Azerbaijan is closed. Neighbouring Iranian province is so poor that it does not make sense to trade with them. So the only way out is RUSSIA and Georgia. And more Georgia, as it borders Armenia. Despite of this Armenian nationalists still try to provoke the destabilization in Javakhk region of Georgia where predominantly Armenians live. That make problems too.

Why don’t we start claiming our territories in Turkey, where 80 % Armenia is there including Ararat mountain. I feel offended when I look at Ararat from my window in Yerevan. My heart has been stolen and can’t return it though I see it every day. Why we don’t fight against them? No we don’t do that, as we are COWARDS. Our poor constitution still formally claims for these territories but what, NOTHING. As the president is xxxxxxx who kissed Russia’s are and Arm government licks the president’s arse. That’s called Armenian political orgy.

[jessoussi]

They changed their anthem! The old one was a real anthem, we could have done what the Russians did and just changed the words. No, they just had to make it sound like some god dam* prayer.

SOVETAKAN HAYASTAN! could have been changed AZAT HAYAsTAN or something.

Ill hunt down the jerk who did this.

u mean they changed the one taht goes like, "meeeerrrrrr hayrenik..bla bla bla bla" to a different one???? mmmm...

[CatWoman]

Somebody said that GDP in Armenia grew by 20 % in 2003. You are wrong, it grown by 25 in fact. Is that realistic you think? As a rule the GDP trends are so high only in cases of high rate of emigration from the country. The population decreases and whatever small enterprises are they start matching the needs of the small population. Yerevan in empty after 6 o’clock and not because of criminal situation. No, the city is very well secured. The reason is that nobody remains there to live. Turkey is closed, Azerbaijan is closed. Neighbouring Iranian province is so poor that it does not make sense to trade with them. So the only way out is RUSSIA and Georgia. And more Georgia, as it borders Armenia. Despite of this Armenian nationalists still try to provoke the destabilization in Javakhk region of Georgia where predominantly Armenians live. That make problems too.

Skim reading on the forum= NOT a good idea

The 20% growth rate that "I" mentioned wasn't for Armenia mister.... It was for Artsakh... My ENTIRE POST was about Karabakh... How could you miss that! Again, skim reading on the forum, not a good idea (unless you're reading arabaliozian )

Okay buddy, now what do you suggest we do about the situation, as far as I know getting Javakhk back isn't on the agenda! haha, sooooo should we give up Karabakh and forget the genocide ever happened and make friends with Turkey and Azerbaijan?

Believe me or not I am more Armenian than you are all, as I was born there and live there but unfortunately I am now temporarily out of the country for the job search purposes.

And here comes their infamouse saying! Hahaha MORE ARMENIAN! How much more?