Kocharian Visits Karabakh

[CatWoman]

Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

If NKR is not another country then why did he do this today.http://www.asbarez.com/index.html?sh...173_4/1/2008_1 (Armenia must recognize NKR or sign a security compac

Because the best solution is for NKR to become an independent state first (as far as United Nations as well as Azerbaijan agreeing to it). Then once it's independent, it will 'decide' to join Armenia. It's not easy for Armenia to get international support by just holding on to the lands by force, it's much easier if NKR's own residents declare independence.. like happened with kosovo. Then as an independent country, they'll have the right to decide to merge with Armenia.

[freakyfreaky]

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I think the answer to the second question answers the first: one republic model.

Annex Artsakh back into Armenia so that Armenia may properly be united and whole and enjoy an ROI (socially, economically, politically) for the sacrifices made by freedom fighters and Armenians in the late 80s and early 90s.

Siamanto, as to the other questions, start at post #1 in this thread and scroll down. They are there.

[Siamanto]

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I agree with you Skhara that Artaskh is Armenia but I do not agree that its recognition, or, not, has no bearing.

The concept of its independence is senseless. Its borders are protected not wholly of its own forces, it lacks a viable infrastructure that but for foreign aid what be all but non-existent and, its economy, if you may call it that, is the result mostly of outside investment.

I'm not familiar with your views on Artsakh, so I may ask questions that you have previously answered.
1. What do you think that the recognition would mean i.e. in practical terms?
2. Are you for a two republic model or single republic model?
(A two republic model can be considered just an organizational - or formal - detail.)

I still await an intelligent response to my questions posed above. For some reason, no one is able to engage in any type of meaningful discourse.

Just curious, what was the question?

[freakyfreaky]

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I agree with you Skhara that Artaskh is Armenia but I do not agree that its recognition, or, not, has no bearing.

The concept of its independence is senseless. Its borders are protected not wholly of its own forces, it lacks a viable infrastructure that but for foreign aid what be all but non-existent and, its economy, if you may call it that, is the result mostly of outside investment.

I still await an intelligent response to my questions posed above. For some reason, no one is able to engage in any type of meaningful discourse.

[skhara]

Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

Jokes are usually funny because they are partly true.

Robert still doesn't know if NKR is Armenia or Armenia is NKR or what.

Being born Armenian doesn't mean being born Armenian or does it.

If so, it applies to all, not one, or, two, or three, or, maybe, four.

Boleren hye enk, bytz boleren hye chenk.

If NKR is not another country then why did he do this today.http://www.asbarez.com/index.html?sh...173_4/1/2008_1 (Armenia must recognize NKR or sign a security compact)

If NKR is another country, then under the constitution in place when Robert was elected president, his presidency is unconstitutional. The color revolution already occurred. You have Soviets running Armenia. No?

How is it that retorts against me do not go beyond the ad hominem. Oppose what I said intelligently.

Artsakh is Armenia -- whatever NKR may or may not be recognized as, has no bearing on anything.

[freakyfreaky]

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I am beginning to see a sad and common trend amongst some uninformed Armenians, when they are unable to engage in intelligent discourse they merely discount their opposing colleagues with personal attacks.

[freakyfreaky]

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Yup, there you go an Karbaghi Armenian is an Armenian but an American Armenian is not... WTG Karo. Good job. Way to alienate probably like a million Armenians. Good job. Carry on. You are doing wonders for the Fatherland. What about the RA's consititution, tough guy?

[KarotheGreat]

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Jokes are usually funny because they are partly true.

Robert still doesn't know if NKR is Armenia or Armenia is NKR or what.

Being born Armenian doesn't mean being born Armenian or does it.

If so, it applies to all, not one, or, two, or three, or, maybe, four.

Boleren hye enk, bytz boleren hye chenk.

If NKR is not another country then why did he do this today.http://www.asbarez.com/index.html?sh...173_4/1/2008_1 (Armenia must recognize NKR or sign a security compact)

If NKR is another country, then under the constitution in place when Robert was elected president, his presidency is unconstitutional. The color revolution already occurred. You have Soviets running Armenia. No?

How is it that retorts against me do not go beyond the ad hominem. Oppose what I said intelligently.

You are an American so you are right the Us constitution doesn't applay on Hayots hog. And as American you can't understand the things that are going on in Armenia and Artsakh. sostick to being an American and leave Armenia to the Armenians.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

Jokes are usually funny because they are partly true.

Robert still doesn't know if NKR is Armenia or Armenia is NKR or what.

Being born Armenian doesn't mean being born Armenian or does it.

If so, it applies to all, not one, or, two, or three, or, maybe, four.

Boleren hye enk, bytz boleren hye chenk.

If NKR is not another country then why did he do this today.http://www.asbarez.com/index.html?sh...173_4/1/2008_1 (Armenia must recognize NKR or sign a security compact)

If NKR is another country, then under the constitution in place when Robert was elected president, his presidency is unconstitutional. The color revolution already occurred. You have Soviets running Armenia. No?

How is it that retorts against me do not go beyond the ad hominem. Oppose what I said intelligently.

[Lucin]

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You mean he returned home to his mother country?

Wow...You are trying too hard to be 'funny'... What's your "point"???

Shat ankap, anham yev anhot es darnum arten.