Armenians For Obama Participates in Major LA Obama Event

[Anonymouse]

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Does it really matter who we support? Everyone politician is going to xxxx us over and the ones that won't have no realistic expectations of becoming president.

That's precisely my point.

He'll get us out of Iraq (supposedly). Other than that he has no use to the American people. When he's elected he's going to sink the economy.

He won't get America out of Iraq. It is not in Israel's interest and he is being tailored to be the next candidate - the cool black guy that all guilty white liberals can rally under.

[yerazhishda]

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He won't get America out of Iraq. It is not in Israel's interest and he is being tailored to be the next candidate - the cool black guy that all guilty white liberals can rally under.

He's going to be up xxxx's creek with the American public if he doesn't get the US out of Iraq.

White Guilt is such a xxxxx.

[Armanen]

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Getting out of iraq now would be one of the worst things the u.s. could do, we will only see another play out of what occured in afghanistan when the soviets left in 1989. Another failed state will develop. Best option is to divide that pseudo country, but of course the u.s. is just as unlikely to do that.

[Armenian]

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He won't get America out of Iraq.

Correct. I don't give two shits about his color or heritage. Obama is a blank canvas upon which his well meaning but hopelessly naive supporters are projecting fantastic images on.

Obama will not get elected. However, even if he does get elected absolutely nothing of serious importance will change. Obama will be forced to comply with the grand agenda. And if he attempts to rock the boat, he will be assassinated. And it won't be the first. But McCain is a petty demon, a proud whore for the neocons/zionists.

Anyway, longterm geostrategic campaigns such as the one in the Middle East is not decided by the "people". Debates I see regrading the presidential elections in the US is sad proof that the masses do not and will never understand how nations are run and how politics work.

In essence, the government picks out what you will wear. If lucky, you will be allowed to pick the color or the size...

The bottom line is - There is no free and fair elections in the US nor is there democracy in its true form. There is the 'perception' of living in a free and democratic society. And when it ceases to serve the economic/political interests of the ruling elite, that perception will disappear as well. We are already seeing this happening today.

In my opinion, the Democrat/Republican election campaign is a two ringed circus. They are the same shit different asshole. Let's realize that American 'democracy' is just 'one' political party more than a 'dictatorship' or 'Bolshevism.'

The empire is fucked regardless of who gets elected.

[KarotheGreat]

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He'll get us out of Iraq (supposedly). Other than that he has no use to the American people. When he's elected he's going to sink the economy.

Who is this us you are talking of since when are we Armenians at war in Iraq(I know we have a couple of soldiers there)

[yerazhishda]

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Correct. I don't give two shits about his color or heritage. Obama is a blank canvas upon which his well meaning but hopelessly naive supporters are projecting fantastic images on.

Obama will not get elected. However, even if he does get elected absolutely nothing of serious importance will change. Obama will be forced to comply with the grand agenda. And if he attempts to rock the boat, he will be assassinated. And it won't be the first. But McCain is a petty demon, a proud whore for the neocons/zionists.

Anyway, longterm geostrategic campaigns such as the one in the Middle East is not decided by the "people". Debates I see regrading the presidential elections in the US is sad proof that the masses do not and will never understand how nations are run and how politics work.

In essence, the government picks out what you will wear. If lucky, you will be allowed to pick the color or the size...

The bottom line is - There is no free and fair elections in the US nor is there democracy in its true form. There is the 'perception' of living in a free and democratic society. And when it ceases to serve the economic/political interests of the ruling elite, that perception will disappear as well. We are already seeing this happening today.

In my opinion, the Democrat/Republican election campaign is a two ringed circus. They are the same shit different asshole. Let's realize that American 'democracy' is just 'one' political party more than a 'dictatorship' or 'Bolshevism.'

The empire is fucked regardless of who gets elected.

I agree 100%. It's sad but true. The reason why the America has survived this long while other dictatorships have fettered out is that America has been able to keep up that illusion of "freedom" and "democracy".

Armenian, what do you predict to be the future of America? I'd very much like to know.

[Azad]

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Why would any Armenian support Obama?

First, he's like any other crooked politician, in the pocket of the Israeli lobby.
Second, his promises are nothing new under the sun and the same repackaged lies.
Third, he's black and I'm not exactly a fan of racial and cultural diversity.

Agree on almost all of the posts. No way in hell he will admit to the Armenian Holocaust. I will vote for him to keep the country in checks and balances. Wealth should not be accumulated by the selective few, he is the release valve to redistribute wealth which will steer spending. He is the ideal economic stimulus and not the cheap checks that are being distributed by the elitists. He will put some scare into the spoiled Insurance and Medical institutions. We need some kind of a universal health care, it might not be red carpet treatment but I don't feel like working till I die subsidizing the world healthcare research. And quite frankly I am getting fed up by the "White" red neck elitists that are manipulated by the chosen apes.

[Anoush]

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Agree on almost all of the posts. No way in hell he will admit to the Armenian Holocaust. I will vote for him to keep the country in checks and balances. Wealth should not be accumulated by the selective few, he is the release valve to redistribute wealth which will steer spending. He is the ideal economic stimulus and not the cheap checks that are being distributed by the elitists. He will put some scare into the spoiled Insurance and Medical institutions. We need some kind of a universal health care, it might not be red carpet treatment but I don't feel like working till I die subsidizing the world healthcare research. And quite frankly I am getting fed up by the "White" red neck elitists that are manipulated by the chosen apes.

Unfortunately they are all brown nosing Israelites and who can do more and better. But I agree with your inputs above concerning economics, though I really wonder if he will not be manipulated by the chosen apes.

[Azad]

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though I really wonder if he will not be manipulated by the chosen apes.

Time will only tell. In a way it is wise to have the apes keep the Arabs in balance but their arrogance should not extend in a reverse role on keeping the US in their balance of interest. That's where we are today.

[crusader1492]

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ADL's unscrupulous Foxman tells the Turks not to worry about Obama recognizing the Genocide. Perhaps he knows something we don't know.

ADL CLEARS G-WORD FALLOUT, PUSHES FOR TIES WITH ARMENIA


Turkish Daily News
Friday, July 4, 2008
Turkey

ANKARA - Turkish Daily News

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, is
in Turkey for extensive talks with Turkish politicians, seeking to
keep up-to-date with both the government and opposition, and to reduce
tensions that erupted after the organization endorsed Armenian claims.

Barely a year has passed since Foxman's decision to employ the "g-word"
for Armenian suffering in the Ottoman Empire during the World War
I-era. This incident wrought havoc in Turkish-Israeli relations,
leading to questioning of the solid support of the xxxish community
against a U.S. Congressional resolution acknowledging Armenian claims
of genocide.

"We continue to oppose a resolution that would contain the genocide
word," Foxman said Wednesday, during an exclusive interview with
the Turkish Daily News. "Armenia and Turkey need to solve this,
not in a political forum such as Congress or parliaments," he said,
but added that the "xxxish community does not deny the suffering of
Armenians." "We used the word last year," he said, implying their
position to employ the term genocide remains in place.

The issue came up during his talks in Ankara, noted Foxman, who met
with President Abdullah Gul, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan,
main opposition Republican People's Party, or CHP, leader Deniz Baykal
and Deputy Chief of Staff Gen. Ergin Saygun. "They were angry a year
ago. But now they seem to understand our position," Foxman said.

'Mend ties with Armenia'

Foxman suggested to President Gul that Turkey mend its ties with
Armenia as soon as possible. "My advice is that Turkey be creative
and pro-active in strengthening the relationships with Armenia as a
way to deal with the issue. That will bring about a coming together
on history," Foxman said. "I suggested finding ways to work together
that will help change the atmosphere, because we have a concern today
on the well-being of Armenia, which is in need of help. I think the
xxxish community could be helpful," he said.

Foxman admitted the existence of sympathy for Armenians within
the xxxish community that, he said, "never denied the suffering of
Armenians." "The only issue is to use the word or not. I think that
the xxxish community is more interested, today, in helping (improve)
the lives of Armenians living in Armenia, rather than becoming judges
in an issue that they cannot resolve. So, yes, there is a sympathy,"
he said.

No need to fear Obama

Foxman played down the need for concern over prospects of a
U.S. resolution on Armenian genocide claims if Barack Obama, Democratic
Party presidential candidate, who secured support of Armenians in
the United States, wins the race for the White House. "There are lots
of things being said in the political campaign," he said, when asked
about Obama's promises to pass the genocide resolution.

Last October, despite the Congressional Committee on Foreign Affairs'
favorable vote, joined by xxxish representatives, in the face of
massive diplomatic protests from Turkey accompanied by civil society
criticism, sponsors of a resolution that recognized, as genocide,
Armenian killings during World War I began to drop out.

Foxman said what counts is the result. "What happened was five former
secretaries of state, three former defense secretaries, and the
president of the U.S. all intervened in Congress to uphold what they
think was the right thing to do. Nobody is denying the history. But
a lot of serious people who care about Armenians and who care about
Turkey say this is the way to do it. And I do not think that this is
going to change," he said.

Turkey's role constructive

Turkey's recently revealed role in talks between Syria and Israel,
who are still technically at war with each other, is of great value
in the region, Foxman said. "The importance is both countries trust
in Turkey to be the facilitator," Foxman said. "I think the fact
that there has been secrecy, which is almost a miracle, adds to the
possibility of success. Nobody knows whether it will succeed," Foxman
said. "But the fact that a Muslim country is able to be a party to
bring these two together is very important. It is not only a symbol,
but a hope for future developments," he said.

The ruling Justice and Development Party's, or AKP, cool attitude
toward talks of a military intervention against Iran that is suspected
of seeking nuclear weapons, does not threaten these ties, according
to Foxman. "The strategic relation between the U.S. and Turkey, and
Israel and Turkey stands on its own feet, on its own interest. If it
serves the interest of parties, it happens. It is not conditioned on
regional disputes," Foxman said.

The ADL's chairman, Glen Lewy, is also in Turkey to meet an
ADL delegation of 30 people from around the United States, said
Foxman. "They will spend five days in Istanbul to better understand
Turkey and then travel on to Jerusalem," he said.