USA considers AZR territorial integrity the main principle of settling NK

[Armanen]

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PM Sargsyan met with cheney and said the same, yesterday afternoon.

[crusader1492]

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ANCA CHAIRMAN CHALLENGES STATE DEPARTMENT
ATTACK ON NAGORNO KARABAGH

-- Speaking before over 900 at Western Region Banquet
Ken Hachikian Confronts Anti-Karabagh Remarks by Matt Bryza

WASHINGTON, DC - Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA)
Chairman Ken Hachikian, in remarks delivered yesterday before more
than 900 elected officials and community leaders at the annual
Western Region banquet, publicly and forcefully challenged recent
statements by senior State Department official Matt Bryza that, as
a precondition for peace, Armenia must agree that Nagorno Karabagh
is part of Azerbaijan.

Speaking before a capacity crowd at the the Ronald Reagan
Presidential Library, Hachikian sharply condemned the "retreat from
principle" in U.S. policy toward the people and republic of Nagorno
Karabagh - who have strived, at the brutal cost of a generation of
its best sons and daughters - to live up to the fundamentally
American ideal that all people deserve to live free of foreign
tyranny, under a government of their own choosing." He added that,
"just this past week, we saw a senior State Department official,
Matt Bryza, moving farther from even the pretense of supporting
democracy, by saying that Armenia must accept the false proposition
that Nagorno Karabagh is part of Azerbaijan. He's absolutely
wrong. And we all know it - and so does Baku and Ankara."

In an October 9th interview with the British Broadcasting
Corporation Russian language service, Bryza, who serves as Deputy
Assistant Secretary of State and also the State Department's
representative to the OSCE Minsk Group talks, stated that Armenia
must agree that Nagorno Karabagh is legally part of Azerbaijan.
His comments follow a series of statements, over the past several
weeks, in which Bryza has demonstrated a pro-Azerbaijani bias by
prioritizing the misapplication of the principle of territorial
integrity to the Nagorno Karabagh issue over the basic right of all
peoples to self-determination.

[crusader1492]

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Finally, someone says it. Too bad it's not an Armenian official.
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Expert: Bryza openly supports Azerbaijan

Perhaps you might be hearing officials become more vociferous about Bryza's allegiances. Negative reactions from Armenian outlets (be it the public, media or government) seem to be gaining traction. At any rate, I don't think this knuckehead's statement is going to being forgotten.

[Federate]

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Finally, someone says it. Too bad it's not an Armenian official.
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Expert: Bryza openly supports Azerbaijan
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ OSCE Minsk Group U.S. Co-chair Matthew Bryza's recent interview with BBC proved that he is a biased mediator, who openly supports Azerbaijan in Karabakh talks, an Armenian expert said.

"Moreover, he is not aware of the conflict's history and hardly understands the meaning of his utterance that 'juridically, Nagorno Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan.' This interview is crude and provocative," Eduard Abrahamyan , expert at Mitq analytical center, told a PanARMENIAN.Net reporter.

"The point is that legal borders between the states are determined neither by international structures nor by intermediaries but by special governmental commissions. As to the Armenian-Azeri border, it was not demarked after the USSR decline. Furthermore, Azerbaijan is the legal successor of the Azerbaijani Democratic Republic which was not even recognized as a state. The Azeri SSR has nothing to do with the process," he said.

There is no law or juridical viewpoint that could influence the Karabakh problem resolution, according to him.

"This is a regular invention of the U.S. mediator who can't enjoy Armenia's confidence any more. The Armenian lobby in the U.S. should urge dismissal of dubious officials like Bryza while the Armenian government should redouble efforts for international recognition of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic," Abrahamyan said.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=27344

[crusader1492]

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Related news:

CHENEY IN RARE TALKS WITH ARMENIAN LEADER

In what appears to be his first-ever meeting with a senior Armenian official, U.S. Vice President xxxx Cheney has discussed with the visiting Prime Minister Tigran Sarkisian a broad range of issues relating to U.S.-Armenian relations and regional security. Sarkisian was in Washington late last week to meet top U.S. official and attend annual meetings of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. He was received by Cheney in the White House late on Friday. Sarkisian is apparently the first Armenian official to hold face-to-face talks with America’s powerful vice president. Cheney did not meet President Serzh Sarkisian when the latter visited Washington in October 2007 in his then capacity as prime minister. President George W. Bush has shunned both Serzh Sarkisian and his predecessor, Robert Kocharian, because of the highly controversial ways in which they won Armenia’s last three presidential elections criticized by Western observers. Bush sent no congratulatory messages to Sarkisian after the last presidential ballot held in February. The outgoing U.S. administration seems more sympathetic to Armenia’s reformist prime minister, having praised his stated efforts to combat corruption, ensure equal government treatment of all businesses and reform Armenia’s tax and customs services. “The prime minister is setting a good example as he takes on tough issues and is advancing a reform agenda,” U.S. Deputy Assistant Matthew Bryza told RFE/RL recently. The Armenian government’s press office said Cheney and Tigran Sarkisian discussed ways of strengthening U.S.-Armenian ties and “exchanged thoughts” on the current state of the Nagorno-Karabakh peace process as well as Armenia’s recent rapprochement with Turkey. It cited Sarkisian as saying that Turkish President Abdullah Gul’s historic September 6 visit to Yerevan “could give a positive impetus to the normalization of relations” between Armenia and Turkey. Still, Sarkisian described as “cause for concern” Gul’s recent speech at the UN General Assembly in which the Turkish leader linked that normalization with a resolution of the Karabakh conflict. He complained that the Armenian leadership’s “constructive” stance on relations with Turkey is often perceived as a sign of weakness in and outside Armenia. On Karabakh, the Armenian premier was reported to reaffirm Yerevan’s overall support for a framework peace accord proposed by the U.S., Russian and French mediators co-chairing the OSCE Minsk Group. He denounced as “dangerous” Bryza’s reported remark last week that the conflict should be resolved on the basis on Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity. A statement by the press office said Sarkisian also discussed with Cheney the release of $236.5 million in additional U.S. assistance to Armenian which Washington effectively froze following the February election and the ensuing government crackdown on the Armenian opposition. The issue dominated Sarkisian’s separate talks with John Danilovich, chief executive of the Millennium Challenge Corporation (MCC), a U.S. government agency administering the aid package. The MCC board declined to unblock the assistance during its most recent meeting in September. (Armenian government photo)

By Emil Danielyan

[Anoush]

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Dear Vasbourakan:

Your views are of course very valid and logical. Please would you be kind enough to scisinctly tell us that part of the lausanne treaty; how then the turkish delegation phrased their words and how was it that a lot of personal factors had their role in bringing that bloody conference to the anti Armenian result? I just want to know. Thank you in advance.

[vasbourakan1]

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for my part I would consider both two aspects of bryza. of course he is a co chairman and his words have to be considered such as, but in the past he often made contradictory statements between while in baku and later in yerevan.
the other side is that he is married to a turkish woman makes me think of that infamous 'scholar' justin mccarthy from the university of pennsylvania, also married to a turkish woman and who participates to genocide denial seminars around the 24 april in turkey and holds his chair with the turkish contributions.
the foregoing makes me remember of a phrase of a turkish delegation member after the lausanne treaty -a treaty which is not legal for the armenian side- that a lot of personal factors had their role bringing this conference to the anti armenian result we know . must we understand money? or sex? or blackmail? personnally I would expect all those, why people who take position against armenians are linked in a way or other to turks by marriage or business like another infamous arab diplomat boutros ghaly a former secretary of the un who asked that armenians should leave artsakh and later on it appeared that his brother was in the oil business and obtained concessions in azerbaijan.

[meline]

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a @everyone! Come on guys let's be serious here! we can't just say:"this is a turkish scumbag...married a turkish woman...nobody takes him seriously..bla bla bla"

This guys a co-chairman! and the entire US foriegn policy regarding NK issue is based on his reports!!

Yes, Snoopy, he is a scumbag and a clown. And who cares whether the entire US policy is based on his reports or not!? The US has no clout in the Caucusus, never had and never will. Do you think they could ever play a decisive role in the region? Over the dead body of the Russian president

Plus, the other co-chair is France. Its foreign policy is diametrically opposite to that of the US and inspite of all that's been said about the French Diaspora, I believe we still wield a lot of influece there, judging by my humble imressions over the past 9 years.

Brysa just perfectly personifies the role of the US....a lot of empty talk....and no real influence.

[Snoopy12]

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@Anoush...agreed! we should have a more aggressive stance concerning the NK issue! Why the hell can azeris threathen us with war, the US threathen us with "territorial integrity"..while all we do is keep quiet!
I can understand that any aggressive statement from the Armenian side can escalate the situation, & do some serious damage to the stability of the Armenian economy & the investing environment in Armenia! Nonetheless! NK issue is an issue of principle & if Armenia does not want to engage in verbal conflict with the US for the sake of Mr. Bryza...The NKR can issue denounciations & consider Bryza a "Persona non grata"! Such that he would be left out of all the meetings that take place between OSCE co-chairmen and Karabakh authorities...
When such steps take place the US will soon realize that it is being left out of the peace process while the French & Russians are taking matters into their own hands. This would be somthing that the US could not allow! & soon would find a substitute for Bryza. Someone who would regain the trust of the Nagorno-Karabakh govt.

@everyone! Come on guys let's be serious here! we can't just say:"this is a turkish scumbag...married a turkish woman...nobody takes him seriously..bla bla bla"

This guys a co-chairman! and the entire US foriegn policy regarding NK issue is based on his reports!!

If the guy's a clown & we don't even have the ability to make a clown know it's limits...what the hell are we gonna do if a serious person showed up in the future and said the same thing!!

[crusader1492]

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I think the Armenian Government does not take this man seriously because when he is in Yerevan, he will say somthing to the effect that "self determination should be the guiding principle blah blah".

He's just the mouthpeice for America, who seems to be hedging their bets right now.

Anyway, fow what it's worth, the man is scum.