News about Artsakh

[hipeter924]

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5.) name a street azerbaijan and lead that street to a military training site.

That works too.

[ninetoyadome]

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Isn't this landmark located in Shushi? It might be historical but it's not "Azeri".

yes it is located in Shushi, azeris claim Shushi is a "historic" azeri city and supposedly Armenians destroyed there monuments but you know how azeris just claim without showing proof.

[ninetoyadome]

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I'm not sure what the problem is for the first link. They are probably saying that Armenians destroyed the city and showing us ruins of it.

The second picture is an attempt by "azeris" to claim that Armenians are newcomers to Nagorno-Karabakh, meaning they are settlers. They claim the city of Maragha was founded by Parskahyes who settled in Nagorno-Karabakh when the Russian Empire took over. And for this, they built a monument to celebrate the 150th anniversary. Just another misrepresentation that is based on Ziya Bunyadov's pseudo-history. The Parskahyes who settled in Artsakh actually settled outside Nagorno-Karabakh and this monument is just another Soviet monument the authorities built to please the locals.

Oh and the Parskahyes who settled in Artsakh were actually simply returning to their homes. They were forcefully taken to Persia before. Oh yeah and one more thing, I suggest you read this link on the distortion of population figures and settlements http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armenian/sas/bour2.html .

thanks for the info. a few azeris have made videos on youtube and they call it Armenian vandalism using these photos. i just dont get the fortress because it has what looks like Armenian writing on it. the other ones they claim Armenians erased it or something. if bunyadov said it then i know its just utter bullxxxx. thanks for the link. i had a link from the same website talking about the Armenian genocide. the article is called Useful Answers to Frequent Questions on the Armenian Genocide. it seems like a great website.

[KanadaHye]

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Federate maybe u can help me, azeris keep posting these pictures and calling them Armenian vandalism, do u know the history behind these pictures? i mean they r written in Armenian and its up to us with we do to them right?

http://www.world66.com/europe/azerbaijan/nagornokarabakh/shusha/lib/gallery/showimage?pic=europe/azerbaijan/nagornokarabakh/shusha/historical_azeri

Isn't this landmark located in Shushi? It might be historical but it's not "Azeri".

[Federate]

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Federate maybe u can help me, azeris keep posting these pictures and calling them Armenian vandalism, do u know the history behind these pictures? i mean they r written in Armenian and its up to us with we do to them right?

http://www.world66.com/europe/azerbaijan/nagornokarabakh/shusha/lib/gallery/showimage?pic=europe/azerbaijan/nagornokarabakh/shusha/historical_azeri

and this picture

http://www.geocities.com/vasif/fuad.htm

if u scroll down u see written Maragha 150. i dont get why there whining about these, maybe you can explain it.

I'm not sure what the problem is for the first link. They are probably saying that Armenians destroyed the city and showing us ruins of it.

The second picture is an attempt by "azeris" to claim that Armenians are newcomers to Nagorno-Karabakh, meaning they are settlers. They claim the city of Maragha was founded by Parskahyes who settled in Nagorno-Karabakh when the Russian Empire took over. And for this, they built a monument to celebrate the 150th anniversary. Just another misrepresentation that is based on Ziya Bunyadov's pseudo-history. The Parskahyes who settled in Artsakh actually settled outside Nagorno-Karabakh and this monument is just another Soviet monument the authorities built to please the locals.

Oh and the Parskahyes who settled in Artsakh were actually simply returning to their homes. They were forcefully taken to Persia before. Oh yeah and one more thing, I suggest you read this link on the distortion of population figures and settlements http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armenian/sas/bour2.html .

[ninetoyadome]

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Federate maybe u can help me, azeris keep posting these pictures and calling them Armenian vandalism, do u know the history behind these pictures? i mean they r written in Armenian and its up to us with we do to them right?

http://www.world66.com/europe/azerbaijan/nagornokarabakh/shusha/lib/gallery/showimage?pic=europe/azerbaijan/nagornokarabakh/shusha/historical_azeri

and this picture

http://www.geocities.com/vasif/fuad.htm

if u scroll down u see written Maragha 150. i dont get why there whining about these, maybe you can explain it.

[Federate]

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About time.
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Battle of Shushi: Pan-Armenian charity plans landmark fundraising for key Karabakh town


The funds to be raised through this year’s annual telethon of the All-Armenian Fund ‘Hayastan’ (Armenia) in November will be spent on the reconstruction of Shushi, a strategically important stronghold town in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Seventeen years after the liberation of the town, Armenians all over the world will be urged to join hands to revive Shushi, whose battle marked the turning point in the national-liberation struggle of Armenians in the early 1990s.

Shushi, whose dominant location had been used by the Azeri military to shell capital Stepanakert and nearby areas with mainly civilian population, was stormed by Armenian forces and liberated on May 8-9, 1992. Nearly 15 years have passed since the end of hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh, but Shushi (situated 16 kilometers to the south of Stepanakert), is still in a state of misery. Houses there are destroyed, streets are full of puddles, while in summer and winter the town experiences shortage of water. But the town meets its visitors with the renovated Savior Church Ghazanchetsots and a monument to Vazgen Sargsyan, a Karabakh war hero.

Agenda 2009 is to finally revive Karabakh’s ancient town of Shushi
For many years authorities in Nagorno-Karabakh have said that reconstruction of the town is impossible through state budget funds.

The townsfolk say the telethon may become unprecedented in terms of the money it will raise, since Shushi means a lot to Armenians. It is only necessary to assure Armenians all over the world that the money they are going to donate will be spent not on ‘buying new SUVs,’ but rather on reconstruction works.

In the meantime, the Government of Nagorno-Karabakh made a decision to dismiss Head of Shushi District Administration Vardan Gabrielyan and appoint Georgy Hayriyan as his successor. Nagorno-Karabakh Prime Minister Ara Harutyunyan said this year many things will depend on the head of the district administration.

A number of projects were implemented in Shushi in 2008: the water-pipe system and water line connecting Shushi with the Tadevos spring that supplies the town with water were partly restored. Installation of gas supply systems is near completion. About one and a half billion drams ($5 million) from the state budget was spent on the projects.

The Shushi Revival Fund has supported the construction of a tourism center in the town as well as the current reconstruction of buildings of a printing-house and the historical “Green” pharmacy. Works on the reconstruction of an urban water sewage network are in progress. Oriental bathhouses and the old market are also under reconstruction. The Tufenkian Foundation sponsored the renovation of the museum of local lore of Shushi.

As stimulus for development, the authorities of Nagorno-Karabakh relocated a number of state institutions to Shushi, such as the Ministry of Culture, courts, the State Cadastre Committee, and some others. Currently the building hosting the Ministry of Culture is under reconstruction. It is not yet decided, however, how the employees of those institutions will get to work in wintertime when the serpentine road from Stepanakert to Shushi becomes dangerous for driving.

Shushi now has a population of 3,600 people, even though at the end of the 19th century its population was about 45,000.

It is yet unknown what exact buildings will be reconstructed with the funds raised at Telethon-2009. Concrete projects are likely to be developed before November. But it is obvious that Armenians living abroad will not donate money getting only a ‘word of honor’ instead, especially that many Armenians willing to contribute already have a sad experience. Many say in private conversations that when they visited Shushi they found out that even the ruins there had been privatized and that it takes an incredible amount of money to buy out the site for construction from the owner of those ruins.

The names of these owners are known, but they are mentioned only off the record. When ArmeniaNow asked one American-Armenian dissatisfied with the situation to speak about it openly, he said he wouldn’t do that not to disappoint those who treat Shushi as a sacred land.

People in Shushi say that before investing huge funds in the reconstruction of the town, the authorities of Nagorno-Karabakh will have to settle the issues connected with property. Moreover, it is not possible to do without drastic measures. Someone suggests nationalization of earlier privatized buildings, especially those which have historical and cultural significance. Some believe it is necessary to “dispossess” and to bring to account the state officials who on preferential terms had privatized vast territories for pennies.

http://armenianow.com/?action=viewArticle&AID=3775&CID=3621&IID=1237&lng=eng

[Icy]

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It is hard to make sure the kid grows up Armenian when you are also half-Greek. Greeks have a strong culture and like us are keen on preserving it. So while we are similar to Greeks, this can end up being bad for us given that there will be a power struggle on who gets to influence the most.

Well if the dad is Armenian, and the mom is Greek then
usually the dad has the say in what goes in the family.
So the kid will end up mostly Armenian.

[Federate]

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With Armenians is ideal, but we can also reproduce with Georgians & Greeks, we just have to make sure our children grow Armenian, no half this, half that, and live in Armenia.

It is hard to make sure the kid grows up Armenian when you are also half-Greek. Greeks have a strong culture and like us are keen on preserving it. So while we are similar to Greeks, this can end up being bad for us given that there will be a power struggle on who gets to influence the most.

[Icy]

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Yes, we need to reproduce!! With Armenians is ideal, but we can also reproduce with Georgians & Greeks, we just have to make sure our children grow Armenian, no half this, half that, and live in Armenia.

Yes, I've also taught of this, but with Greeks it'll
work out better, since we're both so alike.