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    ARMENIAN MUSLIM CLERIC IN RUSSIA MURDERED. CRIMINAL CASE LAUNCHED

    ArmeniaDiaspora.com
    http://www.armeniadiaspora.com/news/...-launched.html
    Nov 10 2011

    Epress.am -- In the Russian city of Yaroslavl, the second imam of the
    local mosque, Artur Manukyan, 29, was found dead with four gunshot
    wounds to his chest in his home on Nov. 9. A criminal case has been
    launched under charges of murder.

    As reported by Interfax news agency, investigators don't rule out the
    possibility that the murder was committed on ethnic grounds and that
    someone was hired to kill him.

    Manukyan was appointed to the position of second imam in 2010. He
    received his religious education at the Ulugh Beg Madrasa in Bukhara,
    Uzbekistan. Manukyan's father is Armenia, but his mother is Tatar.

    Note, this is the third murder of a Muslim cleric in the last two
    months in central Russia. On the night of Sept. 18, also murdered in
    his home was Abakar Kadi Magomedov, a member of the Muslim community
    of Yaroslavl's central mosque. Then on Sept. 24, acting imam of the
    Ivanovski mosque Fouad Rustamhodzhaev was shot just outside his home
    as he was returning from the mosque.
    Last edited by londontsi; 11-11-2011, 02:49 AM.
    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

    traitor...
    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
    ---
    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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      Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

      Originally posted by Mos View Post
      traitor...

      Who? him or his father?

      It also depends how he was brought up, under whose influence, father or mother.


      Is his “job” incidental.

      Would it have been “ok” if he was a mechanic or something?
      Would you have treated him as an Armenian then?

      Indeed was he an Armenian at all except by name?

      Was a "victim" of living in the diaspora?
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • #4
        Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

        Originally posted by Mos View Post
        traitor...
        Typical idiotic remarks of which i grow tired of in this forum.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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          Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post
          Who? him or his father?

          It also depends how he was brought up, under whose influence, father or mother.


          Is his “job” incidental.

          Would it have been “ok” if he was a mechanic or something?
          Would you have treated him as an Armenian then?

          Indeed was he an Armenian at all except by name?

          Was a "victim" of living in the diaspora?
          His father is at fault if he raised him as a Muslim. Though, even with that, this person should have converted back to Christianity given he identified himself as Armenian. It seems as he did since he kept his names.

          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          Typical idiotic remarks of which i grow tired of in this forum.
          Armenians converting to Islam is basically fulfilling the Genocidal wishes of the Turks. You cannot call yourself a Muslim and Armenian at the same time. It doesn't work.
          Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
          ---
          "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

            Originally posted by Mos View Post
            His father is at fault if he raised him as a Muslim.
            His father's fault was marrying "odar".
            Everything starts from that.

            To me there is no difference whether Muslim or Christian odar.
            Its only aesthetics in the mind.

            Its like saying its better to be run over and killed by a Rolls-Royce than a 20 year old Lada.

            Both options lead to the same result.
            Last edited by londontsi; 11-11-2011, 11:05 AM.
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            • #7
              Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

              There are many muslim armenians who are interested in connecting with the rest of us but thanks to people like u they stay in a nomans land caught between those who enslave them and those who reject them.
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • #8
                Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

                the only thing remotely armenian about that guy was his last name, and even that he doesn't deserve. no tears shed here.

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                • #9
                  Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

                  Armenian village idiocy on full display.

                  Embarrassing.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Armenian muslim cleric in russia murdered

                    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                    There are many muslim armenians who are interested in connecting with the rest of us but thanks to people like u they stay in a nomans land caught between those who enslave them and those who reject them.
                    What a ridicules statement.
                    No basis, No substance, No meaning.

                    A few facts of life to tear you statement apart.

                    No Armenian (including me !! ) is a door keeper to any Armenian connecting with his roots..

                    Nobody stops them learning Armenian language, finding out about Armenian History, enjoying Armenian culture or cuisine for that matter.
                    Also consider the Armenian religion as part of Armenian identity.

                    There is no test an Armenian has to go through to be decided he/she is an Armenian.
                    Its a personal thing that one feels, a spiritual link if you prefer.

                    Sadly the reality is just the opposite.

                    Youngsters who come from otherwise strong Armenian families get attracted to Odar language mannerism,
                    communicate with each other in the language of the host country,
                    find Odar culture more attractive and worse of all find odar partners more desirable and
                    ultimately odar spouse to build semi Armenian family where the off springs are under unnecessary identity pressure as well as a choice,
                    usually the host countries identity wins in the long term.

                    Unless you meant some thing else your statement is absolute bull.
                    Last edited by londontsi; 11-11-2011, 01:33 PM.
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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