North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

[Artashes]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

I would like to hear from an actual knowledgable person(s) (not the butt wipe) on the merits and/or demerits of this highway please. Also an evaluation of oligarch involvement.
As we all know, you can't trust someone who's got their nose jammed up a turkish a$s.
--- a project nobody wants & nobody needs. Once again the resident knot head presumes to speak for everyone when in fact that's not speach at all, but rather simply the passing of gas.
Has anyone heard the term " dk weed"
What a jerk.

Did not have my thinking cap on when I asked for info on this highway.
Page one of this this thread answers most of questions.

[Artashes]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

A project that nobody wants and nobody needs and that is only "great" and "wanted" if you are part of Armenia's criminal-political class who (like criminal-political classes everywhere) use such large-scale capital projects to get richer quicker.

I would like to hear from an actual knowledgable person(s) (not the butt wipe) on the merits and/or demerits of this highway please. Also an evaluation of oligarch involvement.
As we all know, you can't trust someone who's got their nose jammed up a turkish a$s.
--- a project nobody wants & nobody needs. Once again the resident knot head presumes to speak for everyone when in fact that's not speach at all, but rather simply the passing of gas.
Has anyone heard the term " dk weed"
What a jerk.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

it is a great project for Armenia since the 1991 year. I hope it will be finished and work.

A project that nobody wants and nobody needs and that is only "great" and "wanted" if you are part of Armenia's criminal-political class who (like criminal-political classes everywhere) use such large-scale capital projects to get richer quicker.

[Arsen]

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North-South highway’s construction in Armenia to take 6-7 years

EREVAN, May 3. 2012 /ARKA/.

The construction of the North-South highway in Armenia may take 6-7 years, Armenia’s Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan said in the interview with Shant TV channel.

The total cost of the North-South highway construction is estimated $1.5 billion, he said. The Prime Minister reminded that Armenia and Asian Development Bank had already signed 500-million-dollar financial agreement.

“It will be an absolutely new road the analogies of which have been never built in Armenia before. It will be constructed gradually.. Possibly, the construction will take 6-7 years,” Sargsyan said.

On April 26 during the Cabinet session the government approved the results of an open international tender for choosing a company to handle the implementation of the first and second phases of the project. The tender was won by Spanish Corsan Corvian Construccion Company. A joint venture Safege (Belgium) and Eptisa (Spain) was chosen as a contractor.

In the first phases of the project known as South-North Tansport Corridor three sections of roads will be reconstructed- Yerevan-Ashtarak (11.7 km), [B]Ararat -Yerevan (38 km)[see below] and Ashtarak-Talin (42 km). The project is funded by Armenia’s government and Asian Development Bank.

On January 14, 2010, Armenian government approved the program of North-South highway construction as well as the $500-million agreement signed between Armenia and Asian Development Bank. The credit agreement on the first $70-million tranche was signed on October 12, 2009, and the second $210 million tranche- on May 30 2011.

Railway North-South will allow the Armenian side to use the alternative route of transportation of energy resources and other goods, obtaining access to outside world. Currently, railway communications between Armenia and foreign countries is provided only through the territory of Georgia.

The project, initiated by Russia and Iran, implies expanding transport flows also by constructing new transport communication through Russia-Iran-India route .

Armenia and Iran are also considering construction of the railway between the two countries, which will become a part of North-South transport corridor. -0-



http://arka.am/en/news/economy/north....5VkHhsBP.dpuf

it is a great project for Armenia since the 1991 year. I hope it will be finished and work.

[Mher]

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but NKR is already the part of Armenia

It's Armenian controlled, but its not internationally recognized as part of Armenia, or even an independent nation. That's why other countries aren't allowed to just build something through it without Azerbaijani permission. Also, the fact that war can start any moment discourages any and all non-Armenian foreign investments

[Arsen]

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I think the biggest challenge in the construction of a Iran/Armenia modern railway is the terrain and the engineering involved.....if NKR became part of Armenia then this railway makes no sense due to NKRs a large border with Iran with no major natural obstacles.

but NKR is already the part of Armenia

[Mher]

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Armenia to negotiate with Georgia about Abkhaz railways


By Messenger Staff
Tuesday, November 12
The Russian media is currently discussing the issue of reviving Abkhazian segment of the railways connecting Georgia with Russia. Armenian leadership is very much interested in this issue as it wants to break though the blockade, which is imposed around it by Azerbaijan and Turkey. The only land connection with the rest of the world Armenia has through Iran.

As for Georgia – Armenia has railway connections with this country. However, due to the occupation of Abkhazian territory by the Russian-supported separatists, the railways running through Abkhazia do not function. This topic has been touched on many times by the Armenian side which is vitally interested in the issue.

Georgia now faces a dilemma. If its preconditions are met (return of IDPs from Abkhazia to their original homes, joined control of cargo at the Russian border) only in this case Georgia would have started discussing the issue. However, these developments might cause the great discontent of Azerbaijan, which does not want Armenia to establish a land connection with Russia, and besides, it tries to promote the Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railways, currently under the intensive construction.

http://www.messenger.com.ge/issues/2988_november_12_2013/2988_econ_five.html

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a third infrastructure matter whose resolution is crucial

[Mher]

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I think the biggest challenge in the construction of a Iran/Armenia modern railway is the terrain and the engineering involved.....if NKR became part of Armenia then this railway makes no sense due to NKRs a large border with Iran with no major natural obstacles.

unfortunately, I think there is a bigger chance of war in the next 5 years than the world recognizing Artsakh as part of Armenia. In fact the only way it may happen in the near future is war. So I don't think that's an option. Furthermore, this is something Armenia needs now, not in 5-10 years. Something to greatly boost the economy and hopefully reverse our emigration numbers. Now we have a 35km border with Iran as it is. I think the biggest challenge is the massive price tag, and the difficulty in finding funding for it after having received massive funding for the North-South highway from all of the various banking institutions already. Which leads me to another question: Does anyone know the exact price tag of the Armenian sector of the railway? I know the prices of 1.8-2.7 billion and 3.5 billion have been floated out there. Well first of, which of those figures in the correct one? Second of all, is that just the Armenian sector? and if not, then how much is the Armenian sector specifically.

[Eddo211]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

I think the biggest challenge in the construction of a Iran/Armenia modern railway is the terrain and the engineering involved.....if NKR became part of Armenia then this railway makes no sense due to NKRs a large border with Iran with no major natural obstacles.

[Mher]

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Plans for Europe-Asia railway
Published: Mon, 2013-12-02 14:11

Central Asian states may be linked with EU and Middle East by railway service

Azerbaijan has put forward a proposal to the countries of the Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO), an intergovernmental organization, involving seven Asian and three Eurasian nations, to establish a network of railways and connect it to the rail networks of Europe and the Middle East region, according to Azerbaijan’s Foreign Minister Elmar Mammadyarov.

According to him, the development of railway infrastructure as well as building of some important regional rail lines and in particular Kazvin - Rasht - Astara (Iran ) - Astara (Azerbaijan), will create new transit opportunities in the Central Asian region.

http://www.railwaybulletin.com/2013/12/plans-for-europe-asia-railway

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attempt to sabotage the Armenian rail?