North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

[Mher]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

Does this mean the Armenian Government sold ( again)
all its rights of another asset to outside interests and
therefore will not earn a penny from its operation?

.

I'll like to hear from others like Vrej who might know more about that aspect of it. Though my knowledge of that aspect is limited, it seems to me there aren't too many other ways that this project gets built. Without outside support on financing, the construction of a billion dollar project doesn't seem feasible by our government, especially when they have just gotten finished financing the North-South highway from outside sources.

To me, seeing how the project doesn't exist as it is, and the only way that it is going to exist is by outside help, I don't find it that egregious that Armenia might not directly profit of it, seeing how it doesn't currently exist anyway. More important that the direct profit is the ease of doing business in Armenia, of transporting and export/importing good for your business. Meaning its crucial to see this project built, and more of a secondary matter as to were the direct profits are going.

[londontsi]

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Victor Rebets: We have right to operate Iran-Armenia railway

January 04, 2014 | 17:02

South Caucasus Railway (SCR) Closed Joint-Stock Company has the right to operate the Iran-Armenia railway, SCR General Director Victor Rebets told Armenian News-NEWS.am.

The aforementioned right is reinforced by a trilateral agreement, which was signed in early 2013 among the Transport and Communication Ministry of Armenia, the Rossiya investment company, and the SCR.

The SCR parent company, however, has not yet decided on whether to participate in this project.

So far, it has been decided that the CCCC Chinese company will take part in the construction of the railway.

SCR has negotiated with the industrial palace of Iran concerning the organizational matters.

As per Rebets, according to preliminary estimates, the project will cost more than $3 billion.

http://news.am/eng/news/185892.html

Does this mean the Armenian Government sold ( again)
all its rights of another asset to outside interests and
therefore will not earn a penny from its operation?

.

[Mher]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

Victor Rebets: We have right to operate Iran-Armenia railway

January 04, 2014 | 17:02

South Caucasus Railway (SCR) Closed Joint-Stock Company has the right to operate the Iran-Armenia railway, SCR General Director Victor Rebets told Armenian News-NEWS.am.

The aforementioned right is reinforced by a trilateral agreement, which was signed in early 2013 among the Transport and Communication Ministry of Armenia, the Rossiya investment company, and the SCR.

The SCR parent company, however, has not yet decided on whether to participate in this project.

So far, it has been decided that the CCCC Chinese company will take part in the construction of the railway.

SCR has negotiated with the industrial palace of Iran concerning the organizational matters.

As per Rebets, according to preliminary estimates, the project will cost more than $3 billion.

http://news.am/eng/news/185892.html

[Mher]

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Russia not decided on funding of Armenian railroad section – South Caucasus Railway

January 04, 2014 | 13:18

YEREVAN. – The Russian railways have not yet decided on the funding of the construction of the Vanadzor-Fioletovo railroad section in Armenia.

“South Caucasus Railway” Closed Joint-Stock Company General Director Victor Rebets told the aforesaid to Armenian News-NEWS.am.

In Rebets’s words, although the technical and economic bases for the project are ready, no decision was made along the lines of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s recent visit to Armenia.

According to the latest estimates, the construction of this railway section may cost $200-250 million. The amount of funding will depend on the construction of tunnels and the options for the route, since it will pass through mountainous terrain.

The 37.8-kilometer-long Vanadzor-Fioletovo railroad section will close Armenia’s northern railway link and reduce, by 70-100 kilometers, the freight route between capital city Yerevan and the Georgian border.

http://news.am/eng/news/185854.html

[Mher]

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Most Georgians approve opening of railway through Abkhazia

July 12, 2013 | 18:06

Most Georgians surveyed within the public opinion poll conducted by NDI approve opening of the rail link with Russia through Abkhazia. Eighteen percent of respondents are against the idea and another twenty failed to answer the question.

The number of those who approve of the opening of the railway, decreased by 2 percent compared to a survey conducted in March. At the same time, the number of opponents increased by five percent, Georgian media reports.

NDI study was funded by the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency.

http://news.am/eng/news/162250.html

[Mher]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

Expert: Abkhazian railway unlikely to be opened soon

YEREVAN, December 20. /ARKA/. Arthur Ataev, senior research associate at Russia’s Institute for Strategic Studies, said in his online interview with Novosti-Armenia that the Abkhasian railway is unlikely to be opened soon.

“This is not feasible in the short term and may be in the long term as well,” he said. “Abkhazia’s stance is mixed.”

More than that – the project needs so much investment that even large geopolitical players can’t afford to embark on it.

“I recently attended an event where a study on this problem was presented,” he said. “Some sections of this railway are missing and some other parts need dismantlement. This is a very expensive regional project.”

Bidzina Ivanishvili, a former prime minister of Georgia, spoke about some possibility to restore this railway link as visited Yerevan in January 2013.

The idea of opening the Abkhasian railway, which is very significant for Armenia, was discussed also by Armenian and Russian presidents, Serzh Sargsyan and Vladimir Putin in Moscow on September 3.

Online news conferences are being held as part of the joint project of Region Research Center (Armenia) and the Institute for Peace and Democracy (Azerbaijan), which is supported by British embassies in Armenia and Azerbaijan.

http://arka.am/en/news/politics/expert_abkhazian_railway_unlikely_to_be_opened_soon/#sthash.xbb8N2Tn.dpuf

[Mher]

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I'll see if I can dig out a report or two about the quality of the Megri road, and also some about the north-south highway whose construction is destroying much of Armenia's surviving forests, but meanwhile:

http://hetq.am/eng/news/22725/

But I must apologise for slandering Armenia's criminals unjustly. In the above example they only billed for a highway that was 10% wider than what they actually constructed, not a third wider. Also, my "A project that nobody wants and nobody needs and that is only "great" and "wanted" if you are part of Armenia's criminal-political class" referred to the proposed railway project.

what does meghri have to do with the work done by ArmeniaFund

[bell-the-cat]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

No Albert Einstein, just our fortune that I forgot to mention this, since I mention this every other time I bring this up:
They are measured as cost per lane per per per mile

I'll see if I can dig out a report or two about the quality of the Megri road, and also some about the north-south highway whose construction is destroying much of Armenia's surviving forests, but meanwhile:

http://hetq.am/eng/news/22725/

The Tsitsernakaberd Highway has two lanes in each direction of traffic. In accordance with state standards the width of each traffic lane must be 3.5 meters. Accordingly, the width of the road must be 14 meters.

Nevertheless, when measuring different segments of the traffic lanes, we couldn’t find any stretch of the road where the right lane was more than 3.4 meters, while the left lane was never more than 3.15 meters. The width, or to be more precise, the narrowness of some segments was 2.8 meters.

At some parts of the road, for instance near the speed camera and under the bridge, the average pavement width was 12.5-12.8 meters.

Thus, the width of Tsitsernakaberd Highway, which is two kilometers long, is 1.5 meters (around 10 percent) less than it should be according to state standards.

But I must apologise for slandering Armenia's criminals unjustly. In the above example they only billed for a highway that was 10% wider than what they actually constructed, not a third wider. Also, my "A project that nobody wants and nobody needs and that is only "great" and "wanted" if you are part of Armenia's criminal-political class" referred to the proposed railway project.

[Mher]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

Now Mr. Cancer
I know you're an expert in everything, including other peoples profession, that you just read about in the past 5 minutes, but read and compare to what $239 million has done in Armenia by AremeniaFund:

http://goo.gl/Wrgatz

http://goo.gl/BGUcvx

the Hayastan All-Armenian Fund has funded construction of roads (over 295 miles), water mains (321 miles), gas pipelines (89 miles) and 43 miles of power lines. Apart from this, it constructed or reconstructed 334 schools, 424 dwelling buildings, 70 public health institutions, and 53 sports and cultural centers.

WITH 239 MILLION DOLLARS



KEEP BARKING

[Mher]

Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

Except that a highway in America is about 4 times as wide as Armenia. But it was still cheaper than expected - the criminals in Armenia only billed for a highway that was a third wider as what they actually constructed.

No Albert Einstein, just our fortune that I forgot to mention this, since I mention this every other time I bring this up:
They are measured as cost per lane per per per mile