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  • Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    Is this road part of the offer Serjig is making to the baboons?
    More like using baboon petroleum to pave our nation. They can sit and wait for something to happen.

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    • Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
      Is this road part of the offer Serjig is making to the baboons?

      By default it is.

      They better do a good job before handing it over.

      Then we can boast we are the best road builders in the WORLD !!!
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      Wow man no need for that kind of bs there.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

        Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
        Wow man no need for that kind of bs there.
        I think you are in denial.

        Let me get this straight.

        Most people who have and had blind faith in Serge Sargisyan in my estimation are patriotic Armenians.
        Except they are deluded on two counts.

        Patriotism is all about loving and serving you Hayrenik. Never its President.

        Second point, it wouldn't d have taken a semi intelligent person more than a year or two to realise that Serge Sargisyan is not a patriotic person.
        If under his rule things had gone wrong one would have said he did his best but it was above him therefore he failed.
        Time to let somebody have a go.

        However he and his family members were and are involved heavily in TALAN of the country, from day one it appears.
        No patriot let alone a patriotic President robs his country.

        He has more or less offered all territory except NKAO to the Azeri.
        The said road falls within that offer by default.

        TIME TO WAKE UP.

        PS. No doubt he was guaranteed he could stay in power in exchange for his loyalty to .....

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        Last edited by londontsi; 11-26-2016, 11:43 AM.
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: North-South Highway/Iran-Armenia Railway

          It is not about waking up. It is about seeing things for what they are. People can live their whole lives believing a fantasy and never know it. I always believed Serj did well in international relations given what he had to deal with (was not much). Having said that I have repeatedly expressed my frustrations with him regarding domestic policies. There are much bigger games being played in our region and where we Armenians fit in is yet to be determined/exposed. I admire your interest and I do not question your patriotism but I do think your western perspective blinds you to many facts and your idealism is unfortunately not in the cards we are dealt. When you criticize lets say Serj, do you know what alternatives he had? What ultimatums he was given and by whome? I think looking at him as just simply a corrupt leader just looking out for himself is a much too simplistic a view of reality. I have always been critical of him on the domestic front thus there never was a love of Serj here but he has done well internationally up until the April war. There were way too many questionable things regarding that whole affair that did not add up(many questionable happenings preseeding it as well). I suspected that we gave up those lands in a behind the doors deal as there never was a attempt to retake them. The weapons we received could have been a part of that deal along with other things that we just do not know. I have never supported the oligarchic situation in Armenia and I have been screaming about the depopulation of Armenia longer then anyone here. As I look at the region and our population, it becomes obvious to me that we as a people lost our ability to shape our own destiny a long time ago. There is a international order and it wants us gone from that region. The genocide was no accident, its continued denial is no accident, today's depopulation of Armenia is no accident...You can blame Serj or anyone else you like but in doing so you are missing the bigger picture.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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