Ataturk Was Homosexual

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ArmSurvival replied

04-30-2007, 08:03 PM
Re: Ataturk Was Homosexual

Originally posted by Elia

I'm guessing Turkey is trying to separate religion from the government to impress the EU

Turkey's identity as a nation was based on the separation of religion and state, which was established by Ataturk. Thats why they are paranoid of anything religious, they want to make sure it does not find its way into politics. Its actually one of the few good things Turkey's government does.

Last edited by ArmSurvival; 04-30-2007, 08:05 PM.
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Selpak replied

04-30-2007, 08:00 PM
Re: Ataturk Was Homosexual

And Selpak bravo you are the winner of this forum for being number one lackey.You should be tired with these efforts,Take a deep breath or adın gibi bir selpak al ve ağzında yalamaktan oluşan salyaları sil,konuşurken pislik sa�mak hoş değildir bilirsin

Sorry, I don't get what you mean. I understand only french.

Sorry mate. I wasn't try to offend you. "Der T�rkei ist laik und der T�rkei werde laik sein." Barış!!?
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Էլիա replied

04-30-2007, 03:17 PM
Re: Ataturk Was Homosexual

I'm guessing Turkey is trying to separate religion from the government to impress the EU.
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ArmSurvival replied

04-30-2007, 03:01 PM
Re: Ataturk Was Homosexual

Originally posted by Selpak

No! Turkey's goverment oppresses religious politics. Turkey's goverment oppresses all politics which is against to Turkey's main policies.

You can't wear religious dress in any public building (like public universities). It might not be oppression, but its certainly not freedom. And considering the majority of people consider themselves Muslim, I don't see how this policy is the will of the people (hence it is undemocratic). The way you dress has nothing to do with politics (unless you are wearing a swastika or something).

Originally posted by Lucin

As far as I’m concerned the Islamic regime in Tehran is way more democratic than Ankaka

Is that why there is a dress code for the country, a ban on all western music and punishment for people (especially women) who engage in "un-Islamic activities"? Thats the opposite of democracy, considering its not the will of the people, rather its the will of the government to force their values on the general population.

You can't say Iran or Turkey is more democratic, they are as undemocratic as each other. Iran oppresses non-religious people, Turkey oppresses religious people and non-Turks (Kurdish language was banned from 1923-1991, and you can't use any letters which do not belong to the Turkish Latin alphabet).
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garod replied

04-30-2007, 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Lucin View Post

Oh really?
You are trying too hard to be funny!
As far as I�m concerned the Islamic regime in Tehran is way more democratic than Ankaka.

You are an ignorant, abused, troubled, complexed child�

Take a look at Turkish women�s most entertaining! activity:

Secular or non-secular, you�d still be full of shyt.

Ps: Stick to the topic; your father's pedophility.

Hmm so interesting that my words made you angry too much.You are so sensitive regarding this subject.I think you are obsessed and complexed too cause especially you are interested in these kind of images like this photo for showing how you are right?! and your angry writings.

This photo impressed me too much.How nice poor people can find litttle things for being happy.They are so creative.They try to be happy in spite of everything.These images don't humiliate them , on the contrary it amplifies their humanity.

The words which are regarding being drunk,wearing that you would like,.. belongs my lifestyle.I gave example from myself.It is not regarding being complexed or abused.For example I traveled to the south east of Turkey which is so closed to the women rights( Antep,Urfa,Mardin,Diyarbakir,Batman) and is shown dangerous by someone.I wore how I wanted,chatted with people in the bazaars and discovered this area's people and kurdish-arabic culture.It was so nice.

I don't think that Iran is more democratical from Turkey,if it was right,we haven't see in the news that iranian women have to use handscarfes otherwise polices beat them or when iranian tourists come to Antalya,they drink too much easily in religious country Turkey and swim with together.
I don't insist on everything is good for all women but sure not bad as you insist on.In Turkey any women cannot enter public areas with handscarfes,so the main argument regarding president election is religious identities cannot acceptable.

And Selpak bravo you are the winner of this forum for being number one lackey.You should be tired with these efforts,Take a deep breath or adın gibi bir selpak al ve ağzında yalamaktan oluşan salyaları sil,konuşurken pislik sa�mak hoş değildir bilirsin

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Selpak replied

04-30-2007, 07:23 AM
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You are an ignorant, abused, troubled, complexed child�

Take a look at Turkish women�s most entertaining! activity:

Secular or non-secular, you�d still be full of shyt.

Ps: Stick to the topic; your father's pedophility.
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Lucin replied

04-30-2007, 06:15 AM
Re: Ataturk Was Homosexual

Originally posted by garod View Post

Sharia lovers? Sorry Lucin but this is so ridiculous idea.Maybe living in Iran impressed you to much.I can imagine how terrible to live in a religious country.

Oh really?
You are trying too hard to be funny!
As far as I�m concerned the Islamic regime in Tehran is way more democratic than Ankaka.

Not wearing that you would like,travel alone,kissing boyfriend when you walk in the street,being drunk,buying bikini and lots of things..

You are an ignorant, abused, troubled, complexed child�

Take a look at Turkish women�s most entertaining! activity:

I recommend you to read the news regarding big protest in istanbul which were organized especially by woman and youth associations to protest the current government.Main slogan is Turkey is secular and will be secular forever (La Turquie est laique et le restera). Protest in İstanbul nealy 1 Million people and there are more who couldnt get a chance to go.I am really proud of them,Turkey is on good way.Controlling a country with a religious laws are just a stupid understanding for stupid people

Secular or non-secular, you�d still be full of shyt.

Ps: Stick to the topic; your father's pedophility.

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Selpak replied

04-30-2007, 03:15 AM
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"La Turquie est laique et le restera" wow you know french. But why do you translate it to french?

Turkey is a religious country, when you consider that the majority of the population holds Islam dear to their hearts, and part of their history and traditions.

Same majority holds "republic" dear to their hearts too. 30 years ago Turkey was not that religious. During cold war... elits prefer citizens more religious instead of comie... And now Turkey's role in new world is soft islam country. Seculars blames masons for it and religious people blames masons for Army's loud voice...

Turkey's government oppresses religious people

No! Turkey's goverment oppresses religious politics. Turkey's goverment oppresses all politics which is against to Turkey's main policies.
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ArmSurvival replied

04-29-2007, 10:39 PM
Re: Ataturk Was Homosexual

Turkey is a religious country, when you consider that the majority of the population holds Islam dear to their hearts, and part of their history and traditions. The government system, however, is extremely secular, and very paranoid of anything Islam. You cannot wear any Islamic dress in any public building in Turkey. Just a couple of days ago, the army warned the new presidential candidates (who come from Islamic political parties) that the secular system must be upheld. Just as recently as 1997, the army overthrew a democratically elected prime minster because he came from an Islamic party.

Its funny comparing Iran and Turkey's governments. Turkey's government oppresses religious people, and Iran's government oppresses non-religious people.
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Էլիա replied

04-29-2007, 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by garod View Post

Sharia lovers? Sorry Lucin but this is so ridiculous idea.Maybe living in Iran impressed you to much.I can imagine how terrible to live in a religious country.
Not wearing that you would like,travel alone,kissing boyfriend when you walk in the street,being drunk,buying bikini and lots of things..

I recommend you to read the news regarding big protest in istanbul which were organized especially by woman and youth associations to protest the current government.Main slogan is Turkey is secular and will be secular forever (La Turquie est laique et le restera). Protest in İstanbul nealy 1 Million people and there are more who couldnt get a chance to go.I am really proud of them,Turkey is on good way.Controlling a country with a religious laws are just a stupid understanding for stupid people.

I thought Turkey was an extremely religious country?
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