Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

[RSNATION]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

The kind you represent is as repugnant as the vilest Turk.

There is no war between "Isalm" and "Christians" - nor will there be one in the future. Armenians have good relations with Iran and the Arab world. Our enemy is not Islam per say, our enemy is pan-Turkism, American imperialism and Globalism. As a result, there will be a war with Globalists/Zionists/Imperialists/Mega Corporations on one side and Christians/Muslims/Nationalists/Traditionalists/etc on the other side. And in this war, Turks play an integral part within the Globalists/Zionists/Imperialists agenda.

So, take your ignorant Neocon BS elsewhere, it won't work here.

I agree with many of the things you have posted but in the end we will have to choose. Either side with the Islamic east or the Christian west. The former being death and the latter being survival and ultimately revenge on our enemies.

I hate the neo-cons, the zionists and all the chickenhawks but WWIII is drawing closer. The whole stupid war in Iraq has started a chain reaction and in the end I do not believe our Muslim "friends" such as Iran or Lebanon will be able to help us. In their eyes we will always be "the other", "the infidel" anyhow.

It is not so much about US supremacy (which I believe is wrong) but the survival of western civilization versus islam which is its polar opposite.

In the near future, there is one development that I hope comes to fruition; the Turks and the Kurds going at it and killing each other. We can sit back and watch as two barbaric peoples destroy each other. They wil reap what they have sown. They have conspired to make the lives of Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians hell and now they will get what they deserve g*d willing.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

I agree with many of the things you have posted but in the end we will have to choose. Either side with the Islamic east or the Christian west. The former being death and the latter being survival and ultimately revenge on our enemies.

I hate the neo-cons, the zionists and all the chickenhawks but WWIII is drawing closer. The whole stupid war in Iraq has started a chain reaction and in the end I do not believe our Muslim "friends" such as Iran or Lebanon will be able to help us. In their eyes we will always be "the other", "the infidel" anyhow.

It is not so much about US supremacy (which I believe is wrong) but the survival of western civilization versus islam which is its polar opposite.

In the near future, there is one development that I hope comes to fruition; the Turks and the Kurds going at it and killing each other. We can sit back and watch as two barbaric peoples destroy each other. They wil reap what they have sown. They have conspired to make the lives of Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians hell and now they will get what they deserve g*d willing.

What you say about the kurdzs and Turks that's something I hope will happen very soon, but that about siding with US and leaving our allies alone is very wrong idea our two strongest allies are iran and russia and if ever there would be WWIII than we need to side with Rusia so we have chanse for survilval but let's hope that there never will be a world war again

[RSNATION]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

What you say about the kurdzs and Turks that's something I hope will happen very soon, but that about siding with US and leaving our allies alone is very wrong idea our two strongest allies are iran and russia and if ever there would be WWIII than we need to side with Rusia so we have chanse for survilval but let's hope that there never will be a world war again

Actually, my belief is that Russia will eventually side with the west versus islam. This is part of Samuel Huntington's theory as well. Radical Islam is their enemy too (Chechnya, Central Asia, Iran, etc). Nor do I think Armenia will have to really engage in the war as an active participant.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

do you really think Russia will side with Nato it's sworn enemy. And there are still other power in play these days that are not islamic or cristain china for example. so I think this time will be usa vs Russia and it's allies


Karo

[RSNATION]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

do you really think Russia will side with Nato it's sworn enemy. And there are still other power in play these days that are not islamic or cristain china for example. so I think this time will be usa vs Russia and it's allies


Karo

It is a situation akin to WWII where the Soviets fought on the same side as the Allies against a common enemy. They will do so, albeit reluctantly.

China will sit the war out, bide their time, and take center stage much later.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

If hilter hadn't invaded the soviet than the soviet's would have staid neutral like they were in the begining, and I don't think they will betray there allays in asai so they can fight with the nato and US

[Armenian]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

Either side with the Islamic east or the Christian west. The former being death and the latter being survival and ultimately revenge on our enemies.

There is no such thing as a "Christian" West. Get that fable out of your mind. And the current global crisis has 'nothing' to do with religion. Our enemies - the Turks/Azeris/Israelis/Georgians/Pakistanis - are on the side of the "Christian West" as you called it. And there is no such thing as an "Islamic East." The main enemy of the West is Russia, China, Iran and India. The current wars we are seeing from Europe to central Asia has to do with economic formulations and an attempt to undermine Russia and isolate China.

Phantom organizations such as the so-called Al-Qaeda are meant to scare the Western public into supporting protracted wars.

I hate the neo-cons, the zionists and all the chickenhawks but WWIII is drawing closer. The whole stupid war in Iraq has started a chain reaction and in the end I do not believe our Muslim "friends" such as Iran or Lebanon will be able to help us. In their eyes we will always be "the other", "the infidel" anyhow.

I find your words suspect. Your logic here simply makes no sense to me. Please rethink what you are attempting to state. Also, realize that the "Christian West" will sell us out in a heart beat, as they have done on numerous occasions in the past. The reality of the matter is, the "Christian West" has more to gain by asskissing Turks and Azeris. At the very least, a viable Armenia is in the best interests of Iran and Russia.

It is not so much about US supremacy (which I believe is wrong) but the survival of western civilization versus islam which is its polar opposite.

No such situation exists. Please stop watching FOX News and stop renting Hollywood films.

In the near future, there is one development that I hope comes to fruition; the Turks and the Kurds going at it and killing each other. We can sit back and watch as two barbaric peoples destroy each other. They wil reap what they have sown. They have conspired to make the lives of Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians hell and now they will get what they deserve g*d willing.

OK, well said. But this has nothing to do with Islam and/or Christianity, nor does it have anything to do with the current global BS campaign called "war on terrorism." As a matter of fact, both Turks and Kurds are the America's, Israel's and Europe's closest allies in the region.

Note: When Christian Armenians were fighting Muslim Azeris, the only nations that helped Armenians directly were Russia and Iran. Nations that helped Azeris were America, Israel, England, Pakistan and Turkey.

Hey, I just realized something: Aren't the nations of America, Pakistan, England, Israel and Turkey the very spearheads of the so-called War on Terrorism? And aren't the aforementioned attempting to undermine Russia and Iran throughout the world? And, if Osama-Bin-Laden and company are in western Pakistan, what the hell are a quarter million Americans doing in Iraq?

Hmmm... something to think about, no?

Please rethink your thoughts, that is if you are serious about this conversation.

[TomServo]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

After World War II, the Soviet Union attempted to annul the Kars treaty and regain its lost territory. On June 7, 1945, Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov told the Turkish ambassador in Moscow that the regions should be returned to the Soviet Union, in the name of both the Georgian and Armenian republics. Turkey found itself in a difficult position: it wanted good relations with the Soviet Union but at the same time they refused to give up the territories. Turkey itself was in no condition to fight a war with the Soviet Union which had emerged as a superpower after the second world war. By the autumn of 1945, Soviet troops in the Caucasus were already assembling for a possible invasion of Turkey. However opposition stemmed from British leader Winston Churchill who objected to these territorial claims as additional areas of where the Soviet government could exert its influence while President of the United States Harry S. Truman of the United States felt that matter shouldn't concern other parties. The Cold War was just beginning. (From Wikipedia)

[Armenian]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

After World War II, the Soviet Union attempted to annul the Kars treaty and regain its lost territory. On June 7, 1945, Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov told the Turkish ambassador in Moscow that the regions should be returned to the Soviet Union, in the name of both the Georgian and Armenian republics. Turkey found itself in a difficult position: it wanted good relations with the Soviet Union but at the same time they refused to give up the territories. Turkey itself was in no condition to fight a war with the Soviet Union which had emerged as a superpower after the second world war. By the autumn of 1945, Soviet troops in the Caucasus were already assembling for a possible invasion of Turkey. However opposition stemmed from British leader Winston Churchill who objected to these territorial claims as additional areas of where the Soviet government could exert its influence while President of the United States Harry S. Truman of the United States felt that matter shouldn't concern other parties. The Cold War was just beginning. (From Wikipedia)

This story is what my Hnchak relatives would repeat over and over and over and over again...

One of my relatives from Yerevan had a school professor who claimed to be in the Red Army at the time when they were getting ready to invade Turkey in 1945. He said that the Red Army detachments in the Caucasus had gotten the green light for the invasion. All the Armenians in the Red Army at the time were very excited and motivated. The military units in the region had made all the preparations and went to sleep at night thinking that early in the morning the campaign would begin. There was no doubt that the Turks will be decimated...

The invasion plan gets canceled during the night...

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[exfo]

Re: Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

Exfo, if you have nothing to contribute to the board aside from creating a ruckus and insulting Armenians you are treading on a thin line.

First of all, you come here and post a news story, without even a link. You make references to western news press covering this, again, without links. Im sorry but I cant take this at face value.

One Turk dies at the hands of Armenians and you throw a hissy fit, and what should our grandparents who saw their entire families massacred by your bloodlusting folks?

Get over yourself, seriously. You come to an Armenian forum and try to make Armenians admit and feel guilt? It's not enough you deny your crimes but you also want to pin guilt and insults on them too?

Banning a user because you feel yourself uncomfortable is the easiest way. You allow and even sometimes support Armenians to insult Turks here. And even without an insult if I write something that make you feel uncomfortable you threathen me to ban. If you will feel yourself as the master of the universe like this you can ban me of course. But if you have a respect to your "title" try to be more neutral at least on the forum rules. I was not insulting anyone, I was discussing about the popular conspiracy theories and suddenly you appear as an advocate of "Armenian" as a "moderator" This is something that I dont understand. If you want to show your "power as a moderator" to me, I have a simple question to you. According to the forum rules it is forbidden to insult anyone because of his/her race, religion, nationality, etc. I never insulted anyone here but many users insult Turks with the most vulgar way almost everyday. Why dont you show your power to them???