Armenia's Economic Pulse

[KanadaHye]

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For example, you'd think everytime the Swiss freeze the bankaccounts of "dictators" there would be some backlash but instead it seems "dictators" are really just little bunny rabbits for their masters

Swiss freeze Mubarak family bank accounts

By Haig Simonian in Zurich


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f5c8422e-3...#axzz1E8fCmFk9

[Mos]

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If anyone were to approach Switzerland, they would be attacked by every single military in the world considering that's where all the dirty money is kept.

my point is that government form doesn't constitute if a country is war like or not. If you are a powerful country, you are naturally going to be warlike as you will want to spread your influence and secure resources for your country.

[KanadaHye]

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my point is that government form doesn't constitute if a country is war like or not. If you are a powerful country, you are naturally going to be warlike as you will want to spread your influence and secure resources for your country.

The government form just dictates the manner in which the people are controlled. Geo politics dictates where and how wars take place. Wars are just used to surround resources or herd people out of the way so resources can be exploited or land can be transferred. The soldiers are usually unaware of the reasons they are at war since they are merely deployed to strategic locations and given orders. Civilians are the means of producing goods from the resources once they are secured. If you are looking to increase population, you'd want to make sure the resources are going to the local people and not being sold out to foreign elements.

[Mos]

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The government form just dictates the manner in which the people are controlled. Geo politics dictates where and how wars take place. Wars are just used to surround resources or herd people out of the way so resources can be exploited or land can be transferred. The soldiers are usually unaware of the reasons they are at war since they are merely deployed to strategic locations and given orders. Civilians are the means of producing goods from the resources once they are secured. If you are looking to increase population, you'd want to make sure the resources are going to the local people and not being sold out to foreign elements.

And so how can democracies be the most warlike government form? I'm referring to Haykakan's post. Exactly geopolitics and also economies influence conflict and wars, doesn't matter what country you are, or what kind of government you have, that is irrelevant when it comes to the reasons for war.

[KanadaHye]

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Well, the U.S. and its allies are by no means a model for democracy since there are only 2 legitimate parties to vote for. For example, you'll never see a party composed of doctors and health care officials run on a platform based on improving the health of a country or a party composed of engineers running on a platform to improve the infrastructure of a country.

Truly, I think above the democratic model exists a further layer of control which never really leaves power and above that are still elements of monarchy.

[Haykakan]

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Mos if you look at history all the way back to Greek city states-you can compare how many times democratic governments declared war vs monarchs-dictators-thocracies.. you will find that democracies were willing to go to war far more often. The system inherently is more warlike because those who have a interest in going to war will buy off whoever they need so a war can happen. A great example was Haliburton and its multi million dollar payoffs to the likes of xxxx Cheyney and friends. That happens much less in monarchies and dictatorships because monarchs and dictators see themselves as responcible for the country and they themselves will profit or lose as the country wins or looses. A dictater or a monarch usualy ties his fate with the country where as polititions know their shelflife is very limited so in a democracy the polititions are more likely to take the money and run since their fate is not tied to the state as much.

[Odar]

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The nature of political game requires that even the most trivial platform - ie. "let's all get rich at the expense of someone else" - must be coated with big, noble-sounding words. Plus, professionals seem to be quite reluctant to form parties (with the exception of lawyers and psychiatrists).

And you're totally right, even in the best democracy, true power is not in the hands of "the people", but in a more or less small élite of rich dynasties and corporations (America) or in a party bureaucracy that controls state-owned industries and access to resources and jobs, or in a combination of both systems.

[Armanen]

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The common person regardless of whether they live in a 'democratic' country or not, doesn't know much, if anything, about foreign policy, geopolitics, military affairs, economics, law (domestic and international), etc. So why would anyone in their right minds let the uneducated masses vote for the 'leader'? Many of the important things in life require one to pass a test and show proficiency. For example, if one would like to drive an automobile or fly a plane, he takes courses and then has to pass a test. Yet, putting someone in office for X amount of years as the head of one's nation is given to anyone over a certain age. It just seems idiotic and fishy to me.

[Haykakan]

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100 MILLION BAILOUT: EU THROWS EURO LIFELINE TO ARMENIA

http://www.armenianow.com/economy/27786/eu_armenia_loan

21.02.11

The European Union has agreed to spend 100 million euro (about $137
million) to help Armenia recover from recession.

The EU is to provide up to 65 million euros in loans and up to 35
million euros in grants, the bloc's executive, the European Commission,
said in a statement Friday.

The aid is conditional on Armenia's willingness to cut debt, reform
pensions and the tax system and improve auditing of its public
accounts.

A 40-million installment of the EU money is set to be released once
the Armenian parliament approves the terms of the aid package, while
the rest of the funds are set to be paid out in late 2011.

[Mos]

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Just more debt for us.