Will Turks and Armenians unite?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

HayotzArmotz jan tzavd tanim.
Evreybody listen to this man, his words are pure wisdom

[Selpak]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

When all Armenian lands are returned to Armenia, when compensation is provided to Armenia and the relatives of those who died during the Genocide, then we can maybe talk about this issue, until then it's a bs topic.

I think Turks would demand the same... equality. Can you handle with it?

p.s. Turks were majority, dominant community in Armenia.

[crusader1492]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

First and foremost they have to be punished and punished hard!

It is evident (even from reading the xxxxhead Turks on this thread) that Turks are not capable of understanding the concept of righting a wrong. How can one even begin to speak with a Turk about reconcilliation/cooperation when they continue to celebrate Armenia suffering through denial, lies, threats, intimidation and murder...so yes, punishment is the only option for these recalcitrant scum. It is the only workable method to tame a unthinking, pathalogicly selfish beast.

The question is, what would be a fitting punishment for this vile nation? By there mentality an "eye for an eye" would be fitting. That would mean 46,000,000 (2/3 of 70,000,000) Turkish men, women and children would have to be shot, bayoneted, hung, decapitated, raped, starved, burned alive, drowned or death marched into the desert.

Tell Selpak that this would be his "equality".

[lampron]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

I think Turks would demand the same... equality. Can you handle with it?

p.s. Turks were majority, dominant community in Armenia.

In the territory that is Armenia today, before Russia came there were Armenians,Tatars (today's Azeris), Persians,Yezdis, Assyrians,Greeks.

It's possible in some places the Tatars were in a majority. In others, Armenians were in the majority, in others Persians. 100,000 Armenians were forced out (by Shah Abbas) in the 17th century from Yerevan/Nakhichevan to Persia that's why there were fewer of them in the 18th century. (by the way the Tatars were a minority in Baku until 1918)

Remember the Turks were a minority in many places like Van (according to Ottoman data). Also in Izmir. The Turks were around 30% in Erzerum, Trabzon, Bitlis,Harput. Trabzon was a really mixed city, with Greeks,Turks,Armenians, Laz, Georgian, Hemshenli,Abkhaz, Cherkez etc.

[jgk3]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

Yes, this whole phenomenon of an ethnic group being a vast majority in one territory and being extinct in the one adjacent to it, is relatively recent and completely based on ethnic cleansing.

[NightOwl]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

Alot of Armenians are naive and weak for being friends with turks, have you visited their message boards? gone to any armenian genocide videos on youtube?
They hate you.

[jgk3]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

who cares. Hate is not productive, it doesn't bring anyone back to life. We can be cautious of them, but beyond that, what's the point?

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

who cares. Hate is not productive, it doesn't bring anyone back to life. We can be cautious of them, but beyond that, what's the point?

I don't know what's more offensive: your remarks or that of these low life Turks. "Be cautious of them"? "What's the point"? Let me ask you this: What the fuk is wrong with you? You want to know the "point"? I'll tell you the point: Punishment of the murderer of my people - that's the point, you idiot! To have the country that is built on the bones and blood of my people to acknowledge the crime it has committed against the Armenian nation. Is this clear enough?

BTW no one calls for hate, fuk the hate! WE WANT JUSTICE!!!

[jgk3]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

No one calls for hate you say? I'd beg to differ. Many of my elders have preached hate towards Turks, and I can't blame them, especially if they lived during the genocide, or were the first generation after the genocide occurred.

I want justice too, why are you getting mad at me? I just don't like hotheadedness. When I said beyond that, I wasn't referring to how we should deal with Turkey as a political entity, I was dealing with how much we should allow blind emotions take over us.

The more hate we feel and show, the more hate Turks will feel and show. Like it or not, that doesn't solve anything. I'm willing to work for our cause, I'd just rather do it by focusing solely on amassing the skills and the organization necessary to execute it, minus the distracting emotions.

I've never experienced a murder in my family, I haven't seen Turks engage in acts of violence. Let me change my stance, when I start to see those things like my forefathers did. In the meantime, I'll keep my stance of seeking justice, without hatred.

[crusader1492]

Re: Will Turks and Armenians unite?

No one calls for hate you say? I'd beg to differ. Many of my elders have preached hate towards Turks, and I can't blame them, especially if they lived during the genocide, or were the first generation after the genocide occurred.

I want justice too, why are you getting mad at me? I just don't like hotheadedness. When I said beyond that, I wasn't referring to how we should deal with Turkey as a political entity, I was dealing with how much we should allow blind emotions take over us.

The more hate we feel and show, the more hate Turks will feel and show. Like it or not, that doesn't solve anything. I'm willing to work for our cause, I'd just rather do it by focusing solely on amassing the skills and the organization necessary to execute it, minus the distracting emotions.

I've never experienced a murder in my family, I haven't seen Turks engage in acts of violence. Let me change my stance, when I start to see those things like my forefathers did. In the meantime, I'll keep my stance of seeking justice, without hatred.

Your stance, as stated above, is fine. As long as you are working for the Armenian cause, then great. However, I think the problem some observe in you, is that sometimes you come off as aloof when it comes to dealing with Turks. People feel that you have an unnatural sterility (for lack of a better word) when it comes to grasping the full depravity of the Turk.

It is your perogative not to "hate", but you could show some emotion from time to time.