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    Kocharian: a criminal?

    That's what some, led by the Center for the Popular Movement, in the RA claim and they are organizing to take Robert before the International Criminal Court.http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=62633
    Last edited by freakyfreaky; 07-14-2008, 11:32 AM.
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    Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

    Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
    That's what some, led by the Center for the Popular Movement, in the RA claim and they are organizing to take Robert before the International Criminal Court.http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=62633
    If Kocharian is a criminal then why the bias of not taking LTP to court with him? Or Vano? I don't get these people.
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      Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

      Originally posted by Federate View Post
      If Kocharian is a criminal then why the bias of not taking LTP to court with him? Or Vano? I don't get these people.

      Because theyre the same scum who are for LTP.

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        Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

        Vote for Levon Ter-Petrosyan!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd66t5jP4hs
        Democracy at a glance.Levon deserves to be President !
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #5
          Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

          I know only one crime that he committed: LTP never was hanged.

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            Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

            Originally posted by aray View Post
            I know only one crime that he committed: LTP never was hanged.
            Now hold on. That does not make Kocharian any less innocent.

            My position on this is, no politician is trustworthy and a saint and Kocharian included. If you wanna hang politicians, hang Kocharian with Levon.

            But, inasmuch as politics is politics, and we cannot hang all politicians, then the question becomes what is the issue here?

            The issue here is that Levon and his supporters are quite hypocritical. Here is a guy that supported Vano at the time and we all know the blood he has had in his hands.

            This notion about "democracy" that comes from Levon's supporters is interesting insofar as it concerns how uneducated people are about political systems, political philosophy or history. Democracy is arguably the worst form of government, yet here we are hearing endless chants of it.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #7
              Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

              I don't think one thing has anything to do with the other.

              Here's Vano the writer. http://www.litlab.org/eng/vano_siradeghyan_eng.html (seems like he thumbed his nose pretty good at Robert while he was on the lamb)

              Who controlled the miltary hardliners when LTP was pushed out?

              As for democracy, you know Mouse that plenty of citizens of the SSR of Armenia fled for exactly that reason - communism.

              Do you think the RA's leaders wants a truly informed citizenry? The aftermath of March 1st leads one to believe they don't. Instead, they want to portray the opposition as witches.

              If there is probable cause that Vano committed organized crime, murder, etc., catch him and try him. Did Robert accomplish this?

              If there was probable cause to believe that LTP committed a crime, Robert had almost a decade to move; he failed you just as much as LTP.

              I don't see Serge arresting him. Why? Apparently, LTP did not do anything.

              Unless of course, witchcraft is a crime. Such an arrest would be transparent as being politically motivated.

              Hmm. I wonder why Sefilyan was conveniently jailed a year or so before the elections.

              If there is probable cause that Robert committed corruption, then the authorities have an obligation to their country to try him.

              Arguably, the authorities are ill-equipped to do their job when the prosecutorial arm of the executive branch is proposing that the opposition used mind control on the disgruntled public.

              On the difference between democracy and communism, even the young communist party re-treads at the head of the RA know that they won't get any western dollars as a communist country and they need to promote the return of recent diaspora that left for the golden paved roads said to be to the West.

              But when you run a democracy like a communist country, it becomes patently obvious after a few cycles. And, you could argue that Serge, Robert and LTP are so interconnected that the RA would have a conflict prosecuting Robert or LTP, so the aggrieved may be able to use the World Court to obtain justice.

              Didn't the same recently happen with a media outlet that the RA unfairly shutdown? http://www.eurasianet.org/department...v070108a.shtml

              Almost, but, they definitely went outside the RA to obtain justice in a COE court. Justice that the media outlet probably could not obtain within the RA (whether or not their were laws affording them relief for the wrongs committed upon them by the RA).

              And, things like this (http://www.privatization.am/old/nsp/nsp10.html) are terribly scary when the items being sold are utilities and railways and the like.
              Page not found - Armenia Foreign Ministry
              http://www.armeniaforeignministry.com/doc/id/bstdb.html

              http://www.parliament.am/legislation.php?sel=show&ID=1645&lang=eng

              http://oneworld.blogsome.com/2007/12...enian-railway/ (under the privitization plan immediately above, this was not supposed to happen)

              P.S. I'm not sure what signing a petiion will do in getting European Council prosecutors to act against any RA leader but apparently gaining public opinion to believe that someone committed a crime was enough for UN prosecutors to level charges of genocide against Sudan's President. http://www.france24.com/en/20080714-...hir&navi=MONDE
              Last edited by freakyfreaky; 07-14-2008, 09:36 PM.
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              adolescence
              & manhood (maturity) there
              should be sharp lines drawn w/
              Tests, deaths, feats, rites
              stories, songs & judgements

              - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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              • #8
                Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

                There is one thing that those who blindly follow political tracts fail to heed: always question the received reality.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #9
                  Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

                  Kocharian may be a criminal, but Sargsyan is the don.

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                    Re: Kocharian: a criminal?

                    Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
                    There is one thing that those who blindly follow political tracts fail to heed: always question the received reality.
                    Good point as it applies regardless of political ideology.
                    Between childhood, boyhood,
                    adolescence
                    & manhood (maturity) there
                    should be sharp lines drawn w/
                    Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                    stories, songs & judgements

                    - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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