Armenia and the information war

[Tigranakert]

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That list sucks. Turkey is probably one of the worlds most stable countries. I'd say easily top 5.

I hope you are making a joke.

[Muhaha]

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I hope you are making a joke.

Nope.

[Armanen]

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That list sucks. Turkey is probably one of the worlds most stable countries. I'd say easily top 5.

Did you mean unstable?

[Armanen]

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Nope.

You must be out of your mind!

[Eddo211]

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Anybody ever seen the Star Trek episode "The Borg"? Sometimes Turks remind me of that mind set....they have a collective, and they aim to assimilate or destroy.

When it comes to Armenians all Turks are united.

[Armanen]

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Anybody ever seen the Star Trek episode "The Borg"? Sometimes Turks remind me of that mind set....they have a collective, and they aim to assimilate or be destroyed.

When it comes to Armenians all Turks are united.

The turks follow their leaders much better than Armenians. One of the reasons they have been more successful than us in the politico-military sphere.

[Eddo211]

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The turks follow their leaders much better than Armenians. One of the reasons they have been more successful than us in the politico-military sphere.

blind alligiance to Turkishness...which is their collective.

We are much better than that.

[Tigranakert]

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As we all know, the most anti-Armenian, self-hating and destructive Armenians live in America, as well as a large part of the criminals and the ones who destroyed and plundered Armenia during the rule of Levon the Idiot and have left for Armenia as they got kicked out.

One of these is an advisor to the president Levon Ter-Petrosyan, "Prof.?" Gerard Libaridian. This xxxxhead is giving an interview to the beloved today.az, an anti-Armenian news agency largely supported by these animals who aim for the destruction of Armenia (just as Levon did). Which self-respecting Armenian would do that? None. I feel sorry today that Armenia was lead for years by these extremely anti-Armenian animals, which is largely the reason why are in the shape we are now. Billions worth of expensive machines were sold to Iran, for nothing more than a penny (a few million dollars). Hundreds of people got killed, did you hear the West back then complain about that then? Of course not. Our president was "good" in their eyes, because he ruined Armenia and was pro-Turkish, the rat even visited Turkey to meet with right-wing Turkish nationalists.

I truly am amazed these people still live free, instead of being in jail for the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, we Armenians are too good, especially for ones who don't deserve it (Turks/Azeris and other self-hating Armenians).

Armenia-Karabakh differences 'not just a game'
Wed 22 June 2011 11:59 GMT | 13:59 Local Time
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Prof. Gerard Libaridian
News.Az interviews Prof. Gerard Libaridian, director of the Armenian Studies Program at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.
How can you explain the special attention towards the Karabakh conflict shown by the major powers, including the Minsk Group co-chairs (the US, Russia and France), at the recent G8 summit?

One can find many reasons. First, the Minsk Group co-chairs have been openly criticized recently by a number of observers for their unproductive mediation efforts and weak position. I, for one, did so in April at a conference in the CSIS [Center for Strategic and International Studies] in Washington DC; I asked a simple question: What would have been different in the outcome of mediation if, instead of Russia, the US and France we had Nigeria, the Ivory Coast and Liberia mediating the Karabakh conflict, or if instead of these three major powers we had two NGOs mediating? In fact, we may have had better results. I know others have criticized the co-chairs. It is possible that such widespread criticism has inspired the co-chairs to show more concern.

It is also very possible that they are genuinely concerned at the possibility of a resumption of military hostilities. We know there are too many militarized conflicts in the world for the major powers to deal with; they don’t need another one.

Another possibility is that the US and France are concerned that Russia may be developing a hegemonic policy in the South Caucasus and would like to see some progress while they still have something to say about the region.

Finally, the major powers may feel that Presidents Aliyev and Sargsyan are vulnerable politically and could have use for international support and legitimation which they would get if they agreed to endorse a document that consolidates regional stability.

The Minsk Group co-chairing countries expect progress at the upcoming summit on Karabakh in Kazan. Do you share their optimism? If not, why not?

It is possible that they have reasons to be optimistic of which I am not aware; after all, what I know is what you guys write and they say. Nonetheless, I see no reason to believe that there will be a major breakthrough in Kazan. This is not the first time such optimism has pervaded the atmosphere before summit meetings. I hear the [Azerbaijani] deputy minister of foreign affairs, Araz Azimov, express pessimism; I hear the spokesman of the Karabakh president indicate serious differences with the position of Armenia, assuming Armenia is ready to go along with a deal, and clearly state that Karabakh is not bound by any document Armenia signs. I know that many in Azerbaijan think that the Armenia/Nagorno-Karabakh differences are just a game, and they are wrong.

I do not see the leaders of the three political units involved in the conflict preparing their peoples for an imminent breakthrough. President Aliyev has made a couple of tentative statements, just as Foreign Minister Mammadyarov has done. It is possible they too are hopeful. We shall see.
In conclusion, I hope I am wrong; I hope sincerely that progress will be made.

What do you think of Russia’s current work as a mediator? Could this be more successful than the combined work of the three co-chairing countries?

In general, yes. I have stated before that the tendency now is for Russia to dictate the terms of an agreement. Which side gets what in that deal is a very different issue. But as I indicated above, the West has less and less to say about what happens in the region. Russia needs stability in the region more than any other country, except that stability has to be secured on its own terms.

Azerbaijan's spiritual leader, Sheikh Allashukur Pashazade, has received an invitation to visit Armenia in November to attend a CIS Inter-Religious Council meeting. Armenian spiritual leader Garegin II visited Baku last year. What kind of role may such visits and contacts play in the Karabakh settlement?

These are welcome gestures; they have symbolic value and they help slow down the dehumanization process that is taking place on each side with regard to the other. But I am not sure these two religious figures have enough moral authority and political capital to reverse the sad process of mutual dehumanization. They certainly are not in positions to impact the policies of their governments on the Karabakh issue.
From 1991 to 1997, Gerard Libaridian was adviser to the then president of Armenia, Levon Ter-Petrosian, and from 1993 to 1994 was Armenia's first deputy minister of foreign affairs.

[Federate]

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As we all know, the most anti-Armenian, self-hating and destructive Armenians live in America, as well as a large part of the criminals and the ones who destroyed and plundered Armenia during the rule of Levon the Idiot and have left for Armenia as they got kicked out.

One of these is an advisor to the president Levon Ter-Petrosyan, "Prof.?" Gerard Libaridian. This xxxxhead is giving an interview to the beloved today.az, an anti-Armenian news agency largely supported by these animals who aim for the destruction of Armenia (just as Levon did). Which self-respecting Armenian would do that? None. I feel sorry today that Armenia was lead for years by these extremely anti-Armenian animals, which is largely the reason why are in the shape we are now. Billions worth of expensive machines were sold to Iran, for nothing more than a penny (a few million dollars). Hundreds of people got killed, did you hear the West back then complain about that then? Of course not. Our president was "good" in their eyes, because he ruined Armenia and was pro-Turkish, the rat even visited Turkey to meet with right-wing Turkish nationalists.

I truly am amazed these people still live free, instead of being in jail for the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, we Armenians are too good, especially for ones who don't deserve it (Turks/Azeris and other self-hating Armenians).

I agree about Libaridian. He's one of the LTP lackeys that need to be in jail right now, along with Vano Siradeghyan who thankfully is wanted by Interpol.

[ninetoyadome]

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this is hilarious, they are the ones complaining about the president's speech being biased and full of hatred while ignoring there dictators speeches.
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Armenian president's speech 'full of hatred'
Wed 22 June 2011 14:14 GMT | 7:14 Local Time
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Azerbaijani MP Samad Seyidov has said the Armenian president's speech to the Council of Europe showed his "biased position".
Seyidov, who heads the Azerbaijani delegation to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), commented to APA on Sargsyan's speech to the assembly.
"The Armenian president’s speech at PACE today once more showed that Sargsyan came as someone with a biased position, far from reality. Unfortunately, we were obliged to listen to this speech in a European organization. Each of his words was full of hatred. I consider that it was a very important moment for us," Samad Seyidov said.

He said that Serzh Sargsyan’s defiance of the Council of Europe proved these views, referring to its boycott of a
PACE ad hoc committee on Karabakh.

"Unfortunately, this organization is filled with double standards and is not capable of responding to real aggression. Today we saw this. We witnessed a threatening speech and statements with respect to the Council of Europe, its Assembly and Europe," he said.
Asked why the Azerbaijani delegation had not asked Sargsyan a question as promised, Samad Seyidov said this was because of internal PACE procedures.

"There are five political groups in PACE and invited guests are asked one question on behalf of each group. Today five questions were asked by these five groups again and there was one additional question, which was asked by the Armenian delegation. It is impossible to ask a question on behalf of the political groups.
"So, as the Azerbaijani side, we have no right to ask a question. Representatives of other countries asked the questions on behalf of the groups. The few questions also show that this man shrinks from questions and there was an opportunity to ask only one question and that was asked by an Armenian."
Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych took the same number of questions following his address to the Parliamentary Assembly on Tuesday.

Samad Seyidov told APA that despite what he described as double standards in PACE, Azerbaijan continued to work with the organization.

"We don’t propose to report before any organization. We joined this organization to learn valuable ideas, positions and implement those that meet our interests, in our country. As time goes on, we see that this organization is filled with double standards and we are in an organization that observe the values it declares itself. For example, it was a decision of the PACE Bureau to establish the subcommittee on Nagorno Karabakh.

"But today Serzh Sargsyan indeed defied it and said 'what is your authority to make such a decision against Armenia'. Therefore I emphasize once more that we develop Azerbaijan not to please anyone else, we develop Azerbaijan for Azerbaijanis."

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