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  • Re: Armenia and the information war

    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    It's funny how Armenians think it's easy to fight the oligarchs and the corruption.
    Serge Sargysyan has been dismissing a lot of corrupt oligarchs and replacing them by technocrats, but it's not an easy job.
    Cannot understand how an oligarch can be dismissed.
    Care to explain, perhaps with examples (individuals).


    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    The oligarchs could team up with other corrupt officials having influence in Armenia and oust Sargysyan out of office.
    If there are laws in the country and the laws are applied, then corrupt official would fear the long arm of the law or take a chance and face the consequences.
    Any country where the law cannot be applied is called a lawless country.


    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    This is why there needs to be evolution, and such a difficult task can not be accomplished within a short-period of time. It's a difficult game of chess, slowly eliminating your opponents and thinking 10-steps ahead of them.
    Application of the law is not evolutionary process. If the law exists then it should be applied.
    A few successful cases in the courts is all that would take to change the tide.
    Corruption by civil servants thrive because laws are not applied.
    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    • Re: Armenia and the information war

      Azeri man living in Armenia

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      • Re: Armenia and the information war

        Armenia’s minister does not make toast to his country




        December 01, 2011

        YEREVAN. – Zhoghovurd daily ascertained from well-informed sources that something interesting transpired during the recent dinner banquet attended by observers from the European People’s Party and Armenian ruling coalition parties’ Government members, the daily writes.

        “Armenia’s Finance Minister Vache Gabrielyan, who speaks English fluently, was designated the [banquet’s] toastmaster, and he made toasts to several European counties, one after the other. The attendees were holding their breath until our country’s [Armenia] turn would come, but the Minister did not note our country.

        To the paper’s query as to why the Minister did not make a toast to Armenia, the Ministry’s Press Service responded: ‘Your information does not correspond to the reality.’ Our sources, however, continue to claim that the toastmaster did not make a toast to Armenia,” Zhoghovurd writes.
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: Armenia and the information war

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post
          Armenia’s minister does not make toast to his country




          December 01, 2011

          YEREVAN. – Zhoghovurd daily ascertained from well-informed sources that something interesting transpired during the recent dinner banquet attended by observers from the European People’s Party and Armenian ruling coalition parties’ Government members, the daily writes.

          “Armenia’s Finance Minister Vache Gabrielyan, who speaks English fluently, was designated the [banquet’s] toastmaster, and he made toasts to several European counties, one after the other. The attendees were holding their breath until our country’s [Armenia] turn would come, but the Minister did not note our country.

          To the paper’s query as to why the Minister did not make a toast to Armenia, the Ministry’s Press Service responded: ‘Your information does not correspond to the reality.’ Our sources, however, continue to claim that the toastmaster did not make a toast to Armenia,” Zhoghovurd writes.

          that's some fine journalism there. Maybe they should write about a tree falling next time....

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          • Re: Armenia and the information war

            Just type in Zhogovurd Daily on google, almost all of their articles are bullxxxx and anti-Armenian, the ideal newspaper to spread negative and pessimist sentiments among Armenians. I'm trying to find out who owns/funds them.

            Zhoghovurd: Armenia's oligarchic elite vacations in Dubai

            YEREVAN. - Armenia's oligarchic elite is spending its warm rest in Dubai, these days, Zhoghovurd daily writes. "According to well-informed sources, National Assembly (NA) MPs Samvel Aleksanyan (Lfik Samo) and Samvel Karapetyan (Samo of Kaluga) are in Dubai. Former NA Speaker Hovik Abrahamyan and [capital] Yerevan's former Mayor Gagik Beglaryan are there, too.
            According to some sources of some persons in some countries, we heard that some of the dozens of rich people in Armenia, are in Dubai, and some other sources told us that some other influential Armenians are there too, thus to conclude, we think based upon some other sources we can not make public, they had a secret meeting somewhere in some restaurant in Dubai, probably owned by a Turk, and some other source told us that they did not toast on Armenia, but only on their mothers. Thus, Armenia is corrupt, and Armenia has no future.

            - Zhogovurd Daily - the only independent newspaper in Armenia, long live democracy!
            Last edited by Tigranakert; 12-01-2011, 04:08 AM.

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            • Re: Armenia and the information war

              This “news” was disseminated by News.am

              Why are you not criticizing News.am

              In fact I have never heard bad comments about News.am before, presumable they are a “patriotic” paper.

              As for me I do not know the truth, but this thread is all about Information war.

              .
              Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
              Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
              Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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              • Re: Armenia and the information war

                Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                This “news” was disseminated by News.am

                Why are you not criticizing News.am

                In fact I have never heard bad comments about News.am before, presumable they are a “patriotic” paper.

                As for me I do not know the truth, but this thread is all about Information war.

                .
                The news was not disseminated by news.am, they just picked it up. I have on numerous times critisized the amateur state of media in Armenia, it's simply pathetic, including the actions of websites like news.am, who just quote everything what is published on every site. Again, I have never seen a country which hosts so much conferences, and all the amateur media using those conferences for sensational headlines.

                "...Today, some analysts, somewhere in Yerevan hold a conference where some vague people attended and spoke on the subject of Russification of Armenia...". After such a bullxxxx conference, Armenian media will still quote those so-called analyst and we will read headlines like "Russia is taking over Armenia" on news.am, and after clicking on it, we'll read that "a political analyst said.." blabla.

                I can't imagine such a thing happening in the Netherlands for example. It already sounds absurd that the Dutch media would use headlines like "Netherlands under threat of Germany", because some analysts in some city in Holland mentioned their stupid opinions on things that they think will happen in the future. Haha, it's ridiculous.

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                  I think one of the better media sources is tert.am
                  Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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                  "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                  • Re: Armenia and the information war

                    Prince Andrew on ‘Secret’ Visit to Azerbaijan


                    Prince Andrew

                    Writing for the London-based Daily Mail, Rebecca English writes about an unexplained “secret” visit to Azerbaijan by Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, on the taxpayers’ dime after stepping down from his controversial role as a trade representative for the United Kingdom.

                    “Andrew has visited its leader, President Ilham Aliyev – accused of torturing political opponents and election rigging – eight times in the last six years, with two of the trips described as ‘entirely private,’” said English in her report.

                    “The regularity of his visits has led media in Azerbaijan to speculate that he may have business links to the oil-rich state, including a golf resort on the Caspian Sea. However Buckingham Palace has denied this,” added English.

                    This issue has raised eyebrows in England, where Prince Andrew has earned a reputation of flying on taxpayer money, while the country is reeling from the global economic crisis.

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                    • Re: Armenia and the information war

                      The attendees were holding their breath....
                      But not their mouths, they guzzled their booze like the rest.

                      ....until our country’s [Armenia] turn would come, but the Minister did not note our country.
                      To the paper’s query as to why the Minister did not make a toast to Armenia, the Ministry’s Press Service responded: ‘Your information does not correspond to the reality.’ Our sources, however, continue to claim that the toastmaster did not make a toast to Armenia,” Zhoghovurd writes.
                      Since when has it been usual for people to make toasts to themselves (or their countries)?

                      I can imagine the toasting at Zhoghovurd daily's Christmas party: "I'm great, I'm wonderful, I'm so perfect - here's one to me!"
                      Plenipotentiary meow!

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