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  • Re: Armenia and the information war

    Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
    I thought the same, other than Russia, maybe Belarus in terms of pressure by Russia, no CSTO member would help us. What can you expect from the Turkic-stan countries other than support Azerbaijan? In the end, they support pan-turanism too at some level. They wouldn't even condemn they would applause...
    The leaders of the central asian countries, minus tajikistan give lip service to pan turanism, the last thing they want though is to be left powerless or under strong control from turkey, they already get a dose of that from Russia and China, actors who have a lot more clout in the region than turkey.

    Also, the CSTO stan nations could only send supplies or troops with Russian consent because none of their armed forces have projection power beyond their borders.
    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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    • Re: Armenia and the information war

      The site remains hacked as of now. They also have their national anthem up http://www.armnoc.am/
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      Turkish hackers cracked RA Olympic Committee website

      17:34 / 03/17/2010

      Official website of Armenian National Olympic Committee was cracked by the hackers who named themselves “Maca” are likely to be Turks by origin.

      They have posted Turkish flag and head of Ataturk, Turkey’s Independence March and inscription saying “No Armenian Genocide happened. Armenia and U.S., come to senses!”

      The website was also affected by virus.

      A.G.

      Last edited by Federate; 03-17-2010, 07:44 PM. Reason: Missing word.
      Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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      • Re: Armenia and the information war

        Oh brother... they know us much better than we know ourselves They just pull any figure they want from their asses.
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        Armenian armed forces are in miserable situation – INVESTIGAION
        [ 17 Mar 2010 14:48 ]

        Desertion, murder, rape, aggression, infringement, homosexuality, hazing, bribery, corruption, suicide and other illegalities increase in the enemy army

        Baku – APA. A miserable situation is prevailing in the army of Armenia which faces with serious economic crisis in the South Caucasus. According to the reports APA obtained, disciplinary, spiritual-psychological and physical state of the military servicemen worsened in compare with previous years. There were 1643 cases of desertion, murder, rape, beating, bribery, corruption, suicide attempt, suicide, infringement and other illegal actions in 2007, 1984 – in 2008 and 2240 – in 2009.

        370 out of 2240 cases were accidental, 652 – violation of regulations among the military servicemen and 1218 - criminal.

        The accidental cases in the Armenian armed forces reduced in compare with 2008, but criminal cases increased.

        Armenian armed forces faced with numerous losses in 2009. 78 servicemen of Armenian army were killed. 21 of them were killed in the battles (shooting, mine action, special operations) and 57 others were killed during the different incidents. 78 servicemen of Armenian armed forces were wounded during the battles.

        57 Armenian soldiers were killed in unmilitary incidents in 2009. Six soldiers died as a result of diseases, 4 – electric shock, 10 – road accidents, 6 – construction accidents and 31 others were killed as a result of suicide, beating, different accidents and illegalities. Unmilitary losses increased by 12 in compare with 2008.

        The suicide attempts and suicides also increased in 2009. There were 46 such cases last year. 13 soldiers were killed as a result of suicide.

        Compared with the reporting period, the deaths reduced by 2 facts. But compared with the developments of 2008, the attempts to commit suicide increased by 25. The investigations found out that the attempts to commit suicide were connected with the arbitrariness of high-ranking officers, bribery, behavior contradicting regulations and hazing in the military. It was found out that attempts to commit suicide in the Armenian Armed Forces were mainly connected with the insulting of soldiers by officers, ensigns, raping of soldiers by officers and ensigns, sergeants, making parents of soldiers bring money, sex of officers and ensigns with the parents of the soldiers, revelation of the fact of raping by personnel, hard military service, psychological problems in the Armenian Army.

        A number of facts of death and injury as a result of violation of weapon usage rules were recorded in the Armenian army in 2009. 193 such facts were recorded in 2009. In 2008 this figure was 46. 11 soldiers died, 182 were wounded as a result of the abovementioned cases. Compared with the reporting period the number of deaths as a result of violation of weapon usage rules reduced by 3, but the number of the wounded increased by 49.

        57 soldiers deserted in Armenia in 2009, this is 14 facts more compared with 2008. 12 of them took their weapons with them while deserting. Other deserters fled to Georgia, Russia and Turkey.

        There still cases in the Armenian army when commanders illegally give permission to the soldiers to leave the military unit for money. 78 such facts were recorded in 2009. Soldiers are allowed to stay at home for a month under the pretext of hospital, detached duty after paying $500-1000 depending on place of the military unit.

        Criminogenic situation reached its peak. 138 criminogenic incidents were recorded in the Armenian armed forces in 2009, this is 24 facts more compared with the previous year.

        18 facts of knifing were recoded in the Armenian armed forces in 2009. 7 of them resulted in death, 11 injuries.
        Soldiers of the Armenian armed forces have committed several crimes against civilians in 2009. That is criminal case on 12 soldiers in kidnapping personal property of civilians, violence towards people, aggression and other cases.

        Besides indiscipline and arbitrariness, immorality problem also quickly spread through Armenian army. That is, the number of soldiers involved in homosexualism has increased in comparison with 2008. There are 200-250 such people, 12 of them are officers. Though such officers and soldiers have been demobilized from army according to the instructions of Armenian armed forces’ leadership, those whose health is normal are sent to other military units under appropriate reference of doctor’s committee.

        Soldiers undertake inclination to homosexualism intentionally to release from military service because of worse welfare standards at military units. Formerly, such soldiers have been demobilized from army immediately, but since last year appropriate decision has been passed on those persons after doctor committee’s opinion.

        It must be noted that drug addicts also spread in the Armenian army, besides criminal and immorality cases. This number has toll to 77 in 2009. Bringing of drugs to military units and sale is realized by sergeant staff under officers’ patronage. Drugs have been brought especially from the occupied territories of Azerbaijan. Narcotic is being cultivated by high-level officer’s staff in the areas controlled by military units.

        Armenian community is worried about non-fight losses in the army more than fight losses. Negative cases in the army happen because of the “clan” policy, corruption, spending finance for buying weapons and military equipments, as well as law material and social life conditions of officers.

        Armenian armed forces look the health of its soldiers very indifferently. A lot of soldiers have been taken to regional and central military hospitals with serious health problems because of the low-calorific foods, antisanitarian conditions, devastated conditions of the barracks. Frostbite, pneumonia, skin, different infectious illnesses, inflammation, gastroenterostomy and other diagnoses exist at military units under Armenian defence ministry.

        Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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        • Re: Armenia and the information war

          Originally posted by Federate View Post
          Oh brother... they know us much better than we know ourselves They just pull any figure they want from their asses.
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          Armenian armed forces are in miserable situation – INVESTIGAION
          [ 17 Mar 2010 14:48 ]

          Desertion, murder, rape, aggression, infringement, homosexuality, hazing, bribery, corruption, suicide and other illegalities increase in the enemy army

          Baku – APA. A miserable situation is prevailing in the army of Armenia which faces with serious economic crisis in the South Caucasus. According to the reports APA obtained, disciplinary, spiritual-psychological and physical state of the military servicemen worsened in compare with previous years. There were 1643 cases of desertion, murder, rape, beating, bribery, corruption, suicide attempt, suicide, infringement and other illegal actions in 2007, 1984 – in 2008 and 2240 – in 2009.

          370 out of 2240 cases were accidental, 652 – violation of regulations among the military servicemen and 1218 - criminal.

          The accidental cases in the Armenian armed forces reduced in compare with 2008, but criminal cases increased.

          Armenian armed forces faced with numerous losses in 2009. 78 servicemen of Armenian army were killed. 21 of them were killed in the battles (shooting, mine action, special operations) and 57 others were killed during the different incidents. 78 servicemen of Armenian armed forces were wounded during the battles.

          57 Armenian soldiers were killed in unmilitary incidents in 2009. Six soldiers died as a result of diseases, 4 – electric shock, 10 – road accidents, 6 – construction accidents and 31 others were killed as a result of suicide, beating, different accidents and illegalities. Unmilitary losses increased by 12 in compare with 2008.

          The suicide attempts and suicides also increased in 2009. There were 46 such cases last year. 13 soldiers were killed as a result of suicide.

          Compared with the reporting period, the deaths reduced by 2 facts. But compared with the developments of 2008, the attempts to commit suicide increased by 25. The investigations found out that the attempts to commit suicide were connected with the arbitrariness of high-ranking officers, bribery, behavior contradicting regulations and hazing in the military. It was found out that attempts to commit suicide in the Armenian Armed Forces were mainly connected with the insulting of soldiers by officers, ensigns, raping of soldiers by officers and ensigns, sergeants, making parents of soldiers bring money, sex of officers and ensigns with the parents of the soldiers, revelation of the fact of raping by personnel, hard military service, psychological problems in the Armenian Army.

          A number of facts of death and injury as a result of violation of weapon usage rules were recorded in the Armenian army in 2009. 193 such facts were recorded in 2009. In 2008 this figure was 46. 11 soldiers died, 182 were wounded as a result of the abovementioned cases. Compared with the reporting period the number of deaths as a result of violation of weapon usage rules reduced by 3, but the number of the wounded increased by 49.

          57 soldiers deserted in Armenia in 2009, this is 14 facts more compared with 2008. 12 of them took their weapons with them while deserting. Other deserters fled to Georgia, Russia and Turkey.

          There still cases in the Armenian army when commanders illegally give permission to the soldiers to leave the military unit for money. 78 such facts were recorded in 2009. Soldiers are allowed to stay at home for a month under the pretext of hospital, detached duty after paying $500-1000 depending on place of the military unit.

          Criminogenic situation reached its peak. 138 criminogenic incidents were recorded in the Armenian armed forces in 2009, this is 24 facts more compared with the previous year.

          18 facts of knifing were recoded in the Armenian armed forces in 2009. 7 of them resulted in death, 11 injuries.
          Soldiers of the Armenian armed forces have committed several crimes against civilians in 2009. That is criminal case on 12 soldiers in kidnapping personal property of civilians, violence towards people, aggression and other cases.

          Besides indiscipline and arbitrariness, immorality problem also quickly spread through Armenian army. That is, the number of soldiers involved in homosexualism has increased in comparison with 2008. There are 200-250 such people, 12 of them are officers. Though such officers and soldiers have been demobilized from army according to the instructions of Armenian armed forces’ leadership, those whose health is normal are sent to other military units under appropriate reference of doctor’s committee.

          Soldiers undertake inclination to homosexualism intentionally to release from military service because of worse welfare standards at military units. Formerly, such soldiers have been demobilized from army immediately, but since last year appropriate decision has been passed on those persons after doctor committee’s opinion.

          It must be noted that drug addicts also spread in the Armenian army, besides criminal and immorality cases. This number has toll to 77 in 2009. Bringing of drugs to military units and sale is realized by sergeant staff under officers’ patronage. Drugs have been brought especially from the occupied territories of Azerbaijan. Narcotic is being cultivated by high-level officer’s staff in the areas controlled by military units.

          Armenian community is worried about non-fight losses in the army more than fight losses. Negative cases in the army happen because of the “clan” policy, corruption, spending finance for buying weapons and military equipments, as well as law material and social life conditions of officers.

          Armenian armed forces look the health of its soldiers very indifferently. A lot of soldiers have been taken to regional and central military hospitals with serious health problems because of the low-calorific foods, antisanitarian conditions, devastated conditions of the barracks. Frostbite, pneumonia, skin, different infectious illnesses, inflammation, gastroenterostomy and other diagnoses exist at military units under Armenian defence ministry.

          http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=118149
          with details like these you know it has to be true
          Seriously they are just releasing xxxx like this so they can pretend the situation is worse in Armenia than it is in azerbaijan. Its for internal uses only.

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          • Re: Armenia and the information war

            Originally posted by Federate View Post
            The site remains hacked as of now. They also have their national up http://www.armnoc.am/
            ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Turkish hackers cracked RA Olympic Committee website

            17:34 / 03/17/2010

            Official website of Armenian National Olympic Committee was cracked by the hackers who named themselves “Maca” are likely to be Turks by origin.

            They have posted Turkish flag and head of Ataturk, Turkey’s Independence March and inscription saying “No Armenian Genocide happened. Armenia and U.S., come to senses!”

            The website was also affected by virus.

            A.G.

            http://news.am/en/news/16887.html
            this is the only way they can get there word out, by hacking?

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            • Re: Armenia and the information war

              Originally posted by Federate View Post
              Turkish hackers cracked RA Olympic Committee website

              17:34 / 03/17/2010

              http://news.am/en/news/16887.html
              The site is not hacked anymore

              Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
              this is the only way they can get there word out, by hacking?
              No, they can also withdraw their ambassadors, pose as the victim to the international community, and in other cases threaten us with mass deportations...

              Originally posted by Federate View Post
              Armenian armed forces are in miserable situation – INVESTIGAION
              [ 17 Mar 2010 14:48 ]

              http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=118149
              Haha oh my, who do we manage to protect ourselves in this situation?!
              Last edited by ashot24; 03-17-2010, 05:08 PM.

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              • Re: Armenia and the information war

                Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
                The site is not hacked anymore



                No, they can also withdraw their ambassadors, pose as the victim to the international community, and in other cases threaten us with mass deportations...



                Haha oh my, who do we manage to protect ourselves in this situation?!
                It's hacked still, check the site again. They really must have dull lives and too much time on their hands.
                Last edited by hipeter924; 03-17-2010, 05:37 PM.

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                • Re: Armenia and the information war

                  Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
                  It's hacked still, check the site again. They really must have dull lives and too much time on their hands.
                  Weird, it worked for me the first time I opened it

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                  • Re: Armenia and the information war

                    Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
                    Weird, it worked for me the first time I opened it
                    They started hacking the site as I was opening it; by the time I revisited the site it was totally hacked again.

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                    • Re: Armenia and the information war

                      Radio Free Europe is a private radio financed by USA.

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