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  • Re: Armenia and the information war

    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    Armenians send a protest message to “New York Times” newspaper
    BY TIMES.AM AT 2 JUNE, 2011, 1:37 PM

    A message is spread by Facebook social network, which informs about an anti-Armenian article published in New York Times on May 31. The article is named “Frozen Conflict Between Azerbaijan and Armenia Begins to Boil” and aims to present Azerbaijanis as victims, confirms Azerbaijani moral right to restart war against NK and “restore Azerbaijani territorial completeness”. The initiators offer Facebook users to send many messages to NY Times editorial and tell them truth about NK issue and Azerbaijan. Here is a text of message which is offered to be edited, changed somehow, may be shortened.

    “Mr. Bill Keller,
    I have read Ellen Barry’s recent article which caused me great frustration. Mrs. Barry’s biased approach in the article makes me think that the article was written under the influence of the Azerbaijani propaganda.

    This article is mostly dedicated to the description of undesirable consequences for Azerbaijan that were caused as a result of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. But the author is silent about the fact that it was Azerbaijan first to launch an aggressive war against Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as to organize the bombing of some border areas of Armenia itself. Moreover, both international and Soviet law did allow Nagorno-Karabakh to achieve its independence. The fundamental human rights of Karabakh Armenian population had been violated for decades, and the culmination of violations was the ethnic cleansings of late 1980s. The population of Karabakh had the right to exercise remedial secession, just as the Eritrea, East Bangladesh, East Timor, Kosovo, South Sudan and other cases.

    There are also detailed sad stories of Azerbaijani refugees, but the author is tacit about Azerbaijan’s brutal policy towards its own population. Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, views its refugees only as a tool of its policy. For many years refugees in Azerbaijan were not allowed to leave their tent camps as if they were kept in concentration camps.

    Mrs. Barry repeats the official position of Azerbaijan and insists that the current framework of the OSCE Minsk Group negotiations have exhausted itself. But she is silent about the fact that the main barrier of progress in the negotiations is Azerbaijan’s destructive approach of failing the negotiation (incidentally she talks as if the international community is negotiating with Armenia (yet, the negotiations are between Armenia and Azerbaijan, with the participation of Nagorno-Karabakh, and mediated by the OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chairs)). The point is that Azerbaijan has been poisoning its own population with Armenophobia and revanchism for about two decades, and now the government doesn’t know what to answer to the people of Azerbaijan, when the OSCE Minsk Group mediators insist that the status of Karabakh should be decided through a legally binding free expression of will of its people. Moreover, calls for a new aggression are repeatedly cited in the article, and the author treats those calls quite normally.

    However, the OSCE Minsk Group mediators in their statements clearly point out that the resumption of war is unacceptable for the international community, that the settlement of the conflict should be based on a comprehensive application of the three basic principles: the prohibition of threat or use of force, self-determination and territorial integrity. Mediators also stress that all conflicting parties should prepare their people for peace and not for war. In fact, the citations of aggression used by the author in fact endorse the fact that the international mediators’ calls for peace are directed at Azerbaijan. Any use of force is clearly prohibited in international law, and this time the international community is determined to prevent the repetition of such actions by Azerbaijan.

    But from the New York Times’ article from May 31 one gets the impression that it is natural that Azerbaijan is preparing for war, as if it is a party that has been treated unjustly.

    Mr. Keller, I sincerely hope that your editorial would be more careful in printing such biased articles in the future. Azerbaijan spends millions of dollars for its PR campaign abroad. And I hope the New York Times’ esteemed reputation can not be marred by the petrol-dollars from the Caspian Sea.

    Best Regards”

    /Times.am/
    Excellent letter and mobilisation. Thanks for the find Tigranakert! NY Times is going down
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    • Re: Armenia and the information war

      It's a shame NY Times would submit to Turkish interests. Weren't they the newspaper that readily reported on the killings of Armenians during the Genocide?
      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
      ---
      "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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      • Re: Armenia and the information war

        you may be slightly overreacting

        here is another article by the same journalist:



        such an article would easily qualify as anti-armenian in the eyes of many, if armenia were substituted for azerbaijan.

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        • Re: Armenia and the information war

          Originally posted by gkv View Post
          you may be slightly overreacting

          here is another article by the same journalist:



          such an article would easily qualify as anti-armenian in the eyes of many, if armenia were substituted for azerbaijan.
          the problem with the other article was it was supposed to be about both Armenia and Azerbaijan but concentrated on Azerbaijan. The title was “Frozen Conflict Between Azerbaijan and Armenia Begins to Boil” and she only talked about the Azeri refugees, she talked about how the Azeris want war, how supposedly Armenian snipers killed a 10 year old boy, which is proven to be a lie here, she talks about the sniper schools and only interviews Azeris. The article you posted was just about Azerbaijan and the arrest of civilians, it has nothing to do with Armenia.

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          • Re: Armenia and the information war

            Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
            the problem with the other article was it was supposed to be about both Armenia and Azerbaijan but concentrated on Azerbaijan. The title was “Frozen Conflict Between Azerbaijan and Armenia Begins to Boil” and she only talked about the Azeri refugees, she talked about how the Azeris want war, how supposedly Armenian snipers killed a 10 year old boy, which is proven to be a lie here, she talks about the sniper schools and only interviews Azeris. The article you posted was just about Azerbaijan and the arrest of civilians, it has nothing to do with Armenia.
            Of course it doesn't. I'm not interested in what she wrote but in the people i am interacting with on this board.
            there is quite a bit in her article to be criticized (and people have done a good job in the ny times comments section)

            my point is jumping from her article to the following statement: "NY Times would submit to Turkish interests" betrays a lack of judgement.
            and lack of judgement is counterproductive.

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            • Re: Armenia and the information war

              Originally posted by gkv View Post
              Of course it doesn't. I'm not interested in what she wrote but in the people i am interacting with on this board.
              there is quite a bit in her article to be criticized (and people have done a good job in the ny times comments section)

              my point is jumping from her article to the following statement: "NY Times would submit to Turkish interests" betrays a lack of judgement.
              and lack of judgement is counterproductive.
              As a newspaper which claims to be a unbiased publicator of news, they have a responsibility to show two sides of the story and not only report on Azeri refugees who are kept in those conditions for things like these and are told exactly what to say to journalists in order to add to the anti-Armenian propaganda. The reporter here should have known better than that, and not been so gullible as seen the other variables in play. She played right into the Azeri propaganda trap. With allowing this article to be published, NY Times showed a lack of professionalism in their journalism, which is supposed to be deemed rather high given its reputation.
              Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
              ---
              "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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              • Re: Armenia and the information war

                Originally posted by gkv View Post
                you may be slightly overreacting

                here is another article by the same journalist:



                such an article would easily qualify as anti-armenian in the eyes of many, if armenia were substituted for azerbaijan.
                Can you explain your rational as to why we should not "overreact" based on that article.
                How is one article "converted" into a fair article by reading another article !!!
                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                • Re: Armenia and the information war

                  Alright. I am not defending the NY Times. What I am saying is one should be careful and take the time to make solid assessments before jumping to conclusions.

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                  • Re: Armenia and the information war

                    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                    Can you explain your rational as to why we should not "overreact" based on that article.
                    How is one article "converted" into a fair article by reading another article !!!
                    I clarified my position here:

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                    • Re: Armenia and the information war

                      I'm very happy to see this much unexpected mobilisation, FB event ---> Բողոքի նամակներ New York Timesին հակահայկական հոդված տպելու համար
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