Armenia and the information war

[Vrej1915]

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Fresno Bee , CA
Oct 9 2011

The Buzz: Sen. Joe Simitian not losing sleep over blacklisting
Sunday, Oct. 09, 2011 | 03:31 PM


Simitian isn't losing sleep over Azerbaijan blacklisting

State Sen. Joe Simitian, blacklisted by the Azerbaijani government
after traveling to a separatist region while on a diplomatic visit,
was back at his Palo Alto office Thursday, not entirely crestfallen.

"Let me put it to you this way," he said. "It's a disappointment I can
live with."

Simitian was among a group of California senators visiting Azerbaijani
officials in Baku, Azerbaijan's capital city, when he went on his own
to Nagorno-Karabakh, a predominantly Armenian area and the center of a
long-standing dispute.

The visit violated Azerbaijani rules restricting travel in the region,
and Elin Suleymanov, Azerbaijan's consul general in Los Angeles, said
Tuesday that Simitian was "basically blacklisted (and) will not be
allowed back."


No one in Azerbaijan told Simitian, apparently. The news, first
reported by local media, reached the senator via Google alert.

Simitian said that after listening to Azerbaijani officials' concerns
about Nagorno-Karabakh, he felt compelled to hear from the other side.

"I was trying to get a better sense of the dynamic," the Democrat
said. "Fundamentally, my view is that the public is better served by
elected officials with a broader world view rather than a narrower
world view."

http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/10/07/2567666/the-buzz-sen-joe-simitian-not.html

[Vrej1915]

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JUST FOR FUUUUUUUUUUUN



Azerbaijan describes conditions of its consent for construction of new
NPP in Armenia
10 October 2011, 21:46

Azerbaijan, Baku, Oct. 10 ; Trend I.Islabalayeva

Azerbaijan may give consent for construction of a new nuclear reactor
in Armenia, director of the Radiation Problems Institute of Azerbaijan
National Academy of Sciences (ANAS) Adil Garibov told Trend on Monday.

According to him, to get Azerbaijan's consent for construction of the
reactor, Armenia must necessarily develop and submit to Azerbaijan the
environmental impact assessment of the reactor's operation.

At the same time, Armenia has to inform the Azerbaijani side of all
details of the reactor's operation: from where it will take water for
reactor's operation, how it will purify water, at what temperature the
water will drain back into the river, how safety will be ensured. The
Armenian side will have to answer to some other questions of
Azerbaijan.

According to Garibov, before building a new reactor, it is necessary
to prepare environmental impact assessment and submit to countries of
region a report on this issue.

The results of environmental impact assessment of the reactor may be
not to be reported to Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan may not to accept
them, said Garibov. According to him, Armenia may explain its refusal
to submit assessment to Azerbaijan with that it is in condition of war
the country.

Azerbaijan also can not to accept the results of assessment if the
Armenian side does not follow certain rules for the organization of
reactor.

"At the annual meeting of the IAEA, ANAS President Mahmud Kerimov
said that Armenia is weak from an economic point of view, it may not
to be able to contain the reactor with a capacity of 1,000 MW. So,
this issue should be on the focus of international attention," said
Garibov.

Armenia plans to build a new nuclear power plant more powerful than
Metsamor NPP. Presumably, the project will cost $1 billion.

The service period of Metsamor NPP expired in 2010. However, Armenia
and IAEA experts have agreed to continue operating the plant until
2016.

THEESE GUYS NEED MENTAL TREATMENT AT STATE SCALE!
FRIGHTENING
EUROPE MUST COMPENSATE US, FOR SERVICES

[Tigranakert]

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Armenia's ties with Russia cause regional instability, says Baku
Tue 11 October 2011 07:17 GMT | 9:17 Local Time
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MFA of Azerbaijan
'At the recent meeting of Azerbaijani and Armenian presidents Armenia withdrew from the agreements reached within many years.
The co-chairing states had to ignore the subjects of the international law,' second secretary of the Security Problems Department of Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry Elchin Huseynli said while addressing the international conference entitled 'Establishing relations across borders' organized by GUAM Parliamentary Assembly and Baltic Assembly.

Elchin Huseynli said Armenia commits illegal actions in the occupied territories of Azerbaijan.

“Armenia conducts the so-called elections, events in the territories of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijani cultural monuments are destroyed. They even attempt to involve the companies from the co-chairing countries. Baku will never allow this,” he said.

According to him, the European Union has double-headed approach to the conflicts in the region: “The European Union recognized the territorial integrity of one country in the region and shows different approach to another one. It doesn’t honor anyone when they recognize the territorial integrity of one country, but turned a blind eye to the violation of territorial integrity of another one”.

The diplomat said that Azerbaijan could play a role in energy supply of the European Union: “Otherwise, more dramatic situation can appear, Europe can fall into position of dependence from another country in the energy supply. The developments in August, 2008 were a great danger for the region. Everybody must draw a lesson from it”.

Reminding that Azerbaijan and Georgia participated in the establishment of GUAM, Huseynli noted that Armenia was a member of Collective Security Treaty Organization:

“Armenia’s relations with Russia cause the instability in the region. Armenia, which is the smallest country in the region, has important military and political agreement with Russia. The conflicts in the regions seriously interrupt the development of the region. If these conflicts are settled, the South Caucasus will turn into developed region from the economic standpoint. Azerbaijan’s position is known - the joint projects are out of the question until the conflicts in the region are settled”.

For all the Russophobes, even the enemy admits that it fears Armenia just because of our relationship with Russia! Isn't it clear to anyone that Russia is suppling us with billions of worth of weapons for almost free-of-charge? Isn't it clear they are the ones who are keeping the Turks at bay for the past twenty years? Isn't it clear that the potential advantages of having good relations with the Russian Federation are IMMENSE? Especially if we unite and organize lobbying organizations as the Armenians are deeply penetrated in all atmospheres in the Russian Federation, be it economical, political, military, sports, and media?

No, the only thing Russophobes can say is that it's a disgrace Armenia doesn't get +- twenty million dollars of rent for the Russian military base. You stupid *#** idiot morons, why don't you mention that we get more than that, the base is a de-facto military transfer base, as we get BILLIONS worth of weapons through the Russian base in Armenia, isn't that clear? Isn't it clear that it's not a base which only serves Russia's interests (as American bases serve only theirs), but it serves Armenia's interests aswell, as it is a shared base whose major goal it to protect the border from the Turks.

Anyways, to keep the story short. Long live the Russian Federation and the Armenian-Russian alliance. Long live our Republic!

[Federate]

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Իրանական կայքը ԼՂՀ–ն ներկայացրել է որպես անկախ պետություն



Իրանական իշխանամետ կայքերից մեկը՝ «Parsine.com»-ը, ԼՂՀ–ին վերաբերող մի հրապարակում է տեղադրել «Տաս երկիր, որի մասին դուք չգիտեք» խորագրի ներքո։ Հրապարակման մեջ նշվում է.

«Կան երկրներ, որոնք այնքան փոքր են, որ դուք դժվար թե լսած լինեք դրանց մասին։ Այդ երկրների բնակչությունը նույնպես մեծ չէ, այդ պատճառով էլ դուք ոչինչ չգիտեք այդ երկրների մասին։ Այնուամենայնիվ, նրանք գոյություն ունեն։ Ներկայացնում ենք ոչ մեծ 10 երկրները»,–որից հետո սկսվում է այդ երկրների նկարագրությունը, և առաջին իսկ գրառումը վերաբերում է ԼՂՀ–ին։ Նկարագրված են երկրի դրոշը, բնակչության թիվը, մայրաքաղաք Ստեփանակերտը և այլն։ Ապա պարսկերենով գրված է.

«Լեռնային Ղարաբաղ։ Հանրապետությունը գտնվում է Հայաստանի ու Ադրբեջանի միջև, չի պատկանում նրանցից որևէ մեկին։ Բնակչությունը մեծ մասամբ հայ է (95 տոկոս), մնացածը հույներ ու քրդեր են»։

Տեղեկացնենք, որ այս հրապարակումը ծավալուն քննարկումների առիթ է տվել Ադրբեջանում։ Ըստ ադրբեջանական փորձագետ Մուբարիզ Ահմեդօղլուի՝ Իրանը նման կերպ փորձում է համոզել հայերին, որ Մինսկի խմբի առաքելությունն անարդյունավետ է, և որ Իրանն ավելի արդյունավետ միջնորդ կարող է հանդիսանալ։

http://7or.am/archives/76851

[Serjik]

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Bro Im with you but what are you so angry about? I can almost hear you yelling LOL

For all the Russophobes, even the enemy admits that it fears Armenia just because of our relationship with Russia! Isn't it clear to anyone that Russia is suppling us with billions of worth of weapons for almost free-of-charge? Isn't it clear they are the ones who are keeping the Turks at bay for the past twenty years? Isn't it clear that the potential advantages of having good relations with the Russian Federation are IMMENSE? Especially if we unite and organize lobbying organizations as the Armenians are deeply penetrated in all atmospheres in the Russian Federation, be it economical, political, military, sports, and media?

No, the only thing Russophobes can say is that it's a disgrace Armenia doesn't get +- twenty million dollars of rent for the Russian military base. You stupid *#** idiot morons, why don't you mention that we get more than that, the base is a de-facto military transfer base, as we get BILLIONS worth of weapons through the Russian base in Armenia, isn't that clear? Isn't it clear that it's not a base which only serves Russia's interests (as American bases serve only theirs), but it serves Armenia's interests aswell, as it is a shared base whose major goal it to protect the border from the Turks.

Anyways, to keep the story short. Long live the Russian Federation and the Armenian-Russian alliance. Long live our Republic!

[Haykakan]

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Bro Im with you but what are you so angry about? I can almost hear you yelling LOL

I am sure he is angered by some people who think that we should turn away from Russia and embrace the west. There are many who say things without thinking things through and i find them as annoying as he does.

[Mos]

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I am sure he is angered by some people who think that we should turn away from Russia and embrace the west. There are many who say things without thinking things through and i find them as annoying as he does.

Not even LTP says that (anymore). Any Armenian who has some clue of Armenia's current situation knows that the Russian alliance is in the best of our interest, and that false promises from the West will only fullfill Turkish/Azeri aspirations to take out what's left of Armenia.

[Haykakan]

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Not even LTP says that (anymore). Any Armenian who has some clue of Armenia's current situation knows that the Russian alliance is in the best of our interest, and that false promises from the West will only fullfill Turkish/Azeri aspirations to take out what's left of Armenia.

What people say changes all the time because words are cheap but the threat of collored revolutions is still real and possibly deadly for Armenia. Discontent people will be open to even the unthinkable at times.

[Tigranakert]

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Europeans: Masters of Deception, Lords of Hypocrisy

Sarkozy in bid to make up for Armenia remarks through aide

TODAYSZAMAN.COM,

French President Nicholas Sarkozy during a visit to Armenia. (Photo: AP)
French President Nicholas Sarkozy, who drew sharp criticism from Turkey last week when he urged Turkey to recognize the 1915 massacre of Armenians by Ottoman Turks as genocide, has conveyed a message to Turkey through his aide, who said Sarkozy's remarks were misunderstood, the Anatolia news agency reported on Friday.

Sarkozy's aide, Jean David Levitte -- known as France's shadow foreign minister -- reportedly called Turkish Ambassador to Paris Tahsin Burcuoğlu and invited him to Elysee Palace. Citing diplomatic sources, Anatolia said during the meeting that Levitte told Burcuoğlu that Sarkozy's remarks were misunderstood in Turkey and that France does not want to face off with Turkey on this issue. Levitte stressed that France sees Turkey as a great country and that France attaches importance to Turkish-French friendship.

During the meeting, Burcuoğlu underscored Turkey's sensitivity on the issue of the World War I-era killings of Armenians and told Levitte that another bill proposing punishment for anyone who denies the “Armenian genocide” would seriously damage bilateral relations.

Sarkozy drew a strong negative reaction from Turkey when he said last week on a short trip to Armenia that Turkey should recognize the 1915 incidents as genocide, threatening to pass a law in France that would make denying this a crime. “The Armenian genocide is a historical reality. Collective denial is even worse than individual denial,” Sarkozy told reporters.

“Turkey, which is a great country, would honor itself to revisit its history like other great countries in the world have done,” the French president added. Turkey's response to the French president was harsh, with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan saying the French leader should keep his advice to himself.

France has long been urging Turkey to acknowledge that the allegations of genocide are true. Turkey, in turn, has proposed that a committee of historians, not politicians, should decide what transpired in 1915. The French Parliament recognized the so-called “Armenian genocide” in 2001, which resulted in short-lived tension between France and Turkey. In 2006 the French National Assembly adopted a bill proposing punishment for anyone who denies the “Armenian genocide.” The bill was dropped this summer before coming to the Senate.

It was funny to see the hypocrite/idiot Sarkozy misusing the political immature emotional Armenians. I just can't understand, after centuries of being fooled and played around by the West, Armenians still have respect for these nations or have the illusion that European countries are "democracies", placing a high value for world "peace", human lives and "justice".

Looked liked the "Armenians for Obama" hype.

[bell-the-cat]

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Sarkozy drew a strong negative reaction from Turkey when he said last week on a short trip to Armenia that Turkey should recognize the 1915 incidents as genocide, threatening to pass a law in France that would make denying this a crime. “The Armenian genocide is a historical reality. Collective denial is even worse than individual denial,” Sarkozy told reporters.

It was funny to see the hypocrite/idiot Sarkozy misusing the political immature emotional Armenians.

The only hypocrite/idiot I see is you, "Tigranakert".

The unlikely alternative (that you might not be a hypocrite/idiot) is much worse because it means that nobody should say or do anything for Armenians because they are an obnoxious, stupid, deceitful, selfish, self-centered, ungrateful people who whine endlessly on and on about being victims, always want more, and never give anything in return (not even a simple "thank you"). For now, I prefer the more likely alternative - that it is just Tigranakert and those like him who are obnoxious, stupid, deceitful, selfish, self-centered, ungrateful people who whine endlessly on and on.....