Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[ArmeniaR]

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i try'd to find out what missile this is but no result.... any ideas?

[Joseph]

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I don't know as much as Zoravar but this whole article is written with the idea that the Armenian and Artsakhian armies will do nothing to defend our lands. And forgets a couple of factors that will play a big role in the war, first the Fedayener that will again take up arms and volunteer to fight and secondly the soldiers that are stationed in Armenia that will be moved to the front or will open a second front very soon.

The article is not all doom and gloom. It basically alludes to the fact that the Azeris have to pull this off without a hitch and very quickly, assumes the Armenians have not already planned contingencies and that Russia will not intervene. If the Azeris unleash an attack, it would be larger than the Georgian attack on Ossetia but again the Armenians only need to play defense. Both sides have much to lose if the war starts again but the Azeris will lose the pipeline and foreign investment in the petroleum sector. Russia ultimately wins because they will force a ceasefire. They will then move to take total control of the region; they are already half way there.

[Joseph]

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Nice shooting soldier!

http://en.trend.az/news/karabakh/1641806.html

Source: Armenian sniper kills three and wounds two Azerbaijani soldiers
18.02.2010 18:10


Azerbaijan, Baku, Feb. 18 / Trend News K.Zarbaliyeva /

Today, two Azerbaijani soldiers were killed and three wounded as a result of breaking the ceasefire on the contact line of the Armenian-Azerbaijani troops, a military source told Trend News.

The source said the Azerbaijani soldiers were shot by the Armenian snipers. The soldiers are being identified.

It was failure to obtain information from the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry.

[ArmeniaR]

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The title sey kills three and wounds two...and in the story two kills and three wounded...

anyway nice shot...

[Haykakan]

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A very disturbing article I would like to hear what Zoravar has to say regarding this and any maps that would further locate the mentioned regions and roots?







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A WAR FOR NAGORNO-KARABAKH: A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO OF HOSTILITIES BETWEEN YEREVAN AND BAKU
by Konstantin Chuprin

WPS Agency
DEFENSE and SECURITY (Russia)
February 15, 2010 Monday
Russia

HOW CAN AZERBAIJAN SOLVE THE NAGORNO-KARABAKH PROBLEM IN A MILITARY
WAY?; President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev frequently announced a
possible military solution of the Nagorno-Karabakh problem in case
of ruining of the negotiation process. There are no reasons to doubt
that the armed forces of Azerbaijan have a plan of operation for
taking of Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent territories controlled by
Armenian armed forces.

President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev frequently announced a possible
military solution of the Nagorno-Karabakh problem in case of ruining
of the negotiation process.

There are no reasons to doubt that the armed forces of Azerbaijan
have a plan of operation for taking of Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent
territories controlled by Armenian armed forces.

It is possible to presume with a big degree of probability
that operation of the armed forces of Azerbaijan for taking of
Nagorno-Karabakh and Azerbaijani territories outside of it controlled
by Armenian forces makes provisions for simultaneous offensive in
the following main directions:

- from Murovdag mountain ridge with a task to reach Kelbadzhar (by
airborne and mountain rifle units, provisions are definitely made
for operations of assault units from helicopters and most likely for
limited landing of special units on parachutes);

- towards Terter-Agdere and further along the Sarsang water reservoir,
Terter River and Murovdag ridge with reaching of the line of Tutkhun
and Bulandykhsu rivers and follow-up joining to the Azerbaijani forces
in the area of Kelbadzhar (strikes can be delivered in the joining
directions to the north and south of the Sarasang water reservoir);

- from the side of the Karabakh plain in the main direction of
Agdam-Khodzhaly-Khankendki (Stepanakert) along the Karkarchay River;

- from the side of the Milskaya plain in the directions of: Khodzhavend
- Shusha, Fizuli - Gadrut - Dzhebrail, Goradiz - Dzhebrail - Zangilan
(in the Geyanskaya steppe along the Araks River bordering Iran).

These strikes should split and fragment defense of the Armenian party
and be developed as fast as possible in depth to prevent delivery of
reserves from Armenia proper.

Further blows of Azerbaijani combined-arms groups should be directed
with equal speed in the directions of: Zangilan - Gubadly, Gubadly
- Lachin (along the Akera River) and Shusha-Lachin (joining blows
for the purpose of liquidation of the Lachin corridor vital for
Nagorno-Karabakh).

Cleaning up of the territory in the area of Gubadly-Lachin and
Istisu-Kelbadzhar between the Karabakh ridge and Karabakh highland
bordering Armenia will evidently be the final stage (after taking of
the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic proper).

There is no doubt that the offensive will be preceded by massive blows
of bomber and attack aviation, tactical missile systems Tochka-U
and long-range artillery at the most important nodes of the enemy
defense and its populated spots (including the blows for the purpose
of liquidation and expulsion of civilians, we should not have any
illusions about this).

It is obvious that the air force of Azerbaijan will try to "blind"
the air defense forces of the enemy using the anti-radar missiles
KH-58 purchased supposedly in Ukraine.

If the combat operations are confined to the internationally recognized
territory of Azerbaijan, the Azerbaijan will use the main forces of
the first (Yevlakhsky) army corps and a part of forces of the fourth
(Gyandzhinsky) and second (Bakinsky) army corps formations, special
forces (airborne forces, special-purpose forces and mountain rifle
forces), air force and air defense forces.

It is possible to presume that the third (Shamkirsky) army corps, a
part of forces of the fourth (Gyandzhinsky) and fifth (Nakhichevansky)
army corps formations will be in the operational reserve with the
tasks of:

- for the third corps - coverage of the northwestern border with
Armenia;

- for the fourth corps - coverage of the Mingechivirsky (Mingechaursky)
directions;

- for the fifth corps - coverage of the border of the Nakhichevan
autonomy with Armenia.

The second (Bakinsky) army corps a part of forces of which will
definitely take part in the combat operations (a tank brigade and
artillery units) is given mostly the role of the strategic reserve.

For combat operations Azerbaijan can use (taking into account the
reserves) not less than 60,000 servicemen, 250-300 tanks, up to
300 light combat armored vehicles, 250-300 field artillery guns and
multiple rocket launchers, up to 50 combat airplanes and the same
quantity of combat and transport combat helicopters of the armed
forces of Azerbaijan.

In case of beginning of a full-scale Armenian-Azerbaijani war the
Armenian party, despite the air superiority of the enemy in the air,
will most likely try to deliver a decisive blow in the direction
of Mingechevir (Mingechaur) and to block the northwestern group of
enemy forces (the third and fourth army corps formations) between the
Mingechivirskoe (Mingechaurskoe) water reservoir, Murovgdag ridge and
Azerbaijani-Georgian border (along the Iori River) and to defeat the
first army corps and to reach the line of the Kura and Araks rivers
through the Milskaya plain. It will also try to block attempts to
attack the Armenian territory by forces of the fifth army corps of
the Azerbaijani army (along with this, special attention will be paid
to defense of the Zangezurskoe direction).

If the Armenian party managed to bring these intentions into
life this will mean a military defeat of Azerbaijan and status of
Nagorno-Karabakh will be confirmed on the terms of Yerevan. However,
probability of such a turn of events is not quite obvious.

Of course, duration of hostilities and fate of the parties will be
determined by interference or non-interference (which is extremely
unlikely) of powerful third countries.

All this will lead to a very serious international crisis into which
Russia will definitely be involved.

It is also necessary to presume that this crisis may lead to
aggravation of the situation on the borders of Georgia with South
Ossetia and Abkhazia. In any case, threats of Baku to solve the problem
of Nagorno-Karabakh by the military way are voiced regularly and have
until recently been intended mostly for internal consumption.

If these threats come true, unilateral unleashing of war will
inevitably place Azerbaijan into a position if not aggressor than
at least the party to blame for the new war with consequences
unpredictable for it.

Nothing disturbing about it. Its just a possible scenario and nothing more. Our defences well entrenched they would make this scenario unrealistic to say the least. The border is mined with artillary sitting behing the trenches to make demining impossible and they cant attack without demining. A paratrooper operation is a possibility but those types of operations carry great risks.

[Eddo211]

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i try'd to find out what missile this is but no result.... any ideas?...

That is not a missile. It is the RBK-500 Anti-Runway bomb.




It can be classified as a cluster bomb. It releases twelve 50lb rocket-boosted submunitions which are designed to penetrate pavement, exploding in the subsoil underneath causing wide, shallow craters.

This tells me that in case of escalating conflict the Armenian Air Force has plans to take out the runways in Azeri airbases, effectively grounding their aircraft and taking them out of the action for a good while. Now that would be a gutsy move that will cripple their Air Force’s effectiveness.

Right on. That is strategy at its finest.

[Karabed]

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Two Azerbaijani soldiers killed by Armenian fire

Two Azerbaijani soldiers wounded in separate incidents
near the front-line earlier today have died.

Khayal Bashar oglu Farajov was wounded at approximately
15.00 local time in Agdam District. He was taken to hospital
but died as a result of his injuries, APA news agency's
Karabakh bureau reports.

Sahil Novruz oglu Mammadov was wounded at approximately
13.00 near Tapgaragoyunlu village in Goranboy District.
He, too, died in hospital.

Khayal Farajov had been called up from Masalli District and
Sahil Mammadov from Sheki District.

Armenian armed forces have been firing on Azerbaijani army
positions since this afternoon, APA reported.

Shooting continues in Borsunlu and Gapanli villages in Terter
District, in Tapgaragoyunlu village and on the former Gulchuluk
collective farm in Agdam District.

The deaths have not yet been confirmed by the Azerbaijani
Defence Ministry.
http://www.news.az/articles/9477

2 dogs less.

[ninetoyadome]

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now they say Armenia suffered casualties also and that we bombarded them.
Three Azerbaijani Soldiers Killed Near Nagorno-Karabakh

February 18, 2010
BAKU -- Three Azerbaijani soldiers were killed today after exchanging fire with Armenian armed forces near the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region, RFE/RL's Azerbaijani Service reports.

Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry confirmed the deaths and said another soldier was wounded as a result of the shooting, which is a violation of a ceasefire agreement between the two forces.

The ministry did not say exactly where the fighting between Azerbaijani and Armenian forces took place. A ministry spokesman said the Armenian side also suffered casualties.

News agencies reported earlier today that Armenian forces shelled Azerbaijani positions in the Agdam, Terter, and Goranboy districts. Najmeddin Sadikhov, the chief of Staff of Azerbaijan's Armed Forces, told the ANS TV station that Azerbaijan's army responded to the shelling.

Armenia and Azerbaijan fought a six-year war over Nagorno-Karabakh that ended in 1994 with Armenian forces in control of the disputed territory and seven other Azerbaijani districts.

[Karabed]

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Azerbaijan should seek reasons in armed forces’ low morals

Information on Feb. 18 shoot-out in Karabakh conflict zone and death of Azerbaijani soldier is untrue, NKR Defense Army press secretary Senor Hasratyan told NEWS.am.

According to him, Nagorno-Karabakh defense army maintains ceasefire.

Speaking about victims, Hasratyan advised his Azerbaijani counterparts to seek the reasons in “low moral standards of their armed forces.”

Earlier, Azerbaijani media spread information, namely violation of ceasefire in the direction of Gapanli village of Terter region caused death of three Azerbaijani soldiers, whereas another four were injured.

A.G.
http://news.am/en/news/karabakh/14684.html

Too bad it's fake, still good though this is just another incident inside the azeri army.

[ninetoyadome]

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Too bad it's fake, still good though this is just another incident inside the azeri army.

"There were skirmishes today on the line and as a result three Azeri soldiers died and one was injured. Losses on the Armenian side were not less than ours," spokesman Eldar Sabiroglu said.

and where is the evidence you ask? there is none.