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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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    Command staff exercises of the Armenian police took place at “Arzni” airport






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      Originally posted by AstalaVist View Post
      My mistake.

      I guess this is the first time that we are showing it. Hope Smerch's are the next
      no,we showed KuBs in 2013 for first time

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Command staff exercises of the Armenian police took place at “Arzni” airport








        Last edited by burjuin; 09-17-2014, 08:45 AM.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
          the ones with Multicam are SSO (Special Operation Team) in Italian camp those are Intelligence, and in Armpat paratroopers. we have some examples of submachine guns, but those are not in use, we buy russian made stuff i think,
          Thanks. I was a bit confused on that one.


          Interesting interview with Syrian Army BMP-2 Driver. Points out one of the only and major flaws of the vehicle. BMP-2s are one of the best counters against Azerbaijans 300 Otokar Cobras, which proved to be ineffective against BMP-2s in the Russo-Georgian War

          Last edited by Chubs; 09-17-2014, 09:20 AM.
          Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Command staff exercises of the Armenian police took place at “Arzni” airport







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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
              no,we showed KuBs in 2013 for first time
              Really? I am seeing it for the first time. Is there any footage from 2013?

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by AstalaVist View Post
                Really? I am seeing it for the first time. Is there any footage from 2013?
                yeah from zinuzh they showed like 30 sec only.
                we must have 2 divisions of those systems since russian 102 base had them before, and we are getting all the stuff from that base when they bring new things, like BuK

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
                  yeah from zinuzh they showed like 30 sec only.
                  we must have 2 divisions of those systems since russian 102 base had them before, and we are getting all the stuff from that base when they bring new things, like BuK

                  I've learned we have a counter for Azeri helicopters. Igla launchers mounted on MT-LBs. Its basically the anti-aircraft version of that. It will be able to take out Azeri SU-25s and mi-35s.

                  Speaking of fighters. Eddo, do you know of any modernization programs for the MiG-25?

                  Also, I was thinking....I wonder what we are spending the 800,000 USD from China on...



                  Does anyone think this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Army
                  needs some updating? Especially the armor section.

                  The PT-72U stuff is still there, it still says we have 50 BMP2s when other sources suggest we have about 100..

                  I was taking a look at some older pages and I saw that people made very good points about the BMP2s...


                  They all have horrible survivability records. While, I dont know about AKM rounds piercing its armor lol, I know for a fact NSV/KORD will definitely pierce a BMP-2s side armor if fired from a close range, either killing the crew or setting them all on fire. Although, BMP-2s are relatively faster than its Western counterparts...(I doubt it would make a huge difference in a mountainous environment. It is semi-decent for troop transport although MRAPs would absolutely destroy them in this category.

                  Armenia should probably stop buying BMP-2s as it did in 2012/2013..and start purchasing either BMP-3s from Russia or ZBD-08/4 from China...We wouldn't be able to buy Western IFVs unfortunately....Western IFVs are the absolute best. They were all made to counter the BMP systems. ( BMP-2 is far from trash, I saw a video if one of them surviving an IED blast. It was hit and was able to peel back down the road. All crew and troops survived.)

                  I know I continue to stress that IFVs are important, because they are. They not only support infantry in combat operations, but they also support MBTs in taking out RPG teams, and any other possible threats.

                  A tank needs an IFV for fire support and transporting troops. Troops are of course essential for tanks, as troops engage enemy infantry and anti-tank teams. To conduct an operation with just MBTs with no IFV/Infantry support is suicide.

                  In order to insure that the infantry actually get to the battle, you would need a reliable and resistance IFV to transport them. BMP-2s...Just don't cut it in the resistance area because they are poorly armored. I know that Armenian officials know about this..but I see they are doing nothing to change it. They continue to purchase BMP-2s and continue to use those god awful BMP-1s.

                  While the BMP-2 is a reliable workhorse. It has serious flaws that endanger the lives of Armenian soldiers in all combat scenarios. Armenia should actively either begin the purchase of better IFVs/MRAPs, or start thinking about domestic production or even purchasing IFVs from Georgia. Their Lazika seems to be much more well armored, although lacking in fire power. Perhaps even conduct deals with Russia and get some early access to BMD-4s and probably purchase some BMD-2s. As they seem to be more well armored.
                  Last edited by Chubs; 09-17-2014, 11:32 PM.
                  Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Command staff exercises of the Armenian police took place at “Arzni” airport







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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      KARABAKH SOLDIER KILLED BY ENEMY FIRE

                      11:30 18/09/2014 >> SOCIETY

                      On September 18, an Armenian soldier, Mher Hakobyan, 24, died of a
                      gunshot wound after being shot by Azerbaijani forces in a frontline
                      position of a military unit in the southern direction of the Line
                      of Contact of Nagorno-Karabakh's and Azerbaijan's troops, the NKR
                      Defense Ministry said.

                      An investigation is underway.

                      The NKR Defense Ministry shares the grief of the loss and extends
                      sympathy to the family, relatives and fellow servicemen of the soldier.

                      Source: Panorama.am
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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