Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I think Turkey might intervene if we attack Nakhichevan and another thing to consider is that our troops are dug in to defend and probably are not prepared to attack.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Will us threating them make us win the war or get independence for Artsakh? I think not, the only thing we should is be calm and react when they act like crazy bastards. We won the war last time, we are defending now. We've got advantages why stoop to their level and give fuel for their propaganda machine.

And getting Nakhijevan right now is not an option for Armenia, because when the region was given to the Azeris the Su and Turkey were guaranteers of the region. So if we attack Nakhijevan we will at war with Nato.

I did not say we should attack Nakhichevan with troops now, no we should be smarter diplomatically and claim Nakchichevan and other areas, we have made numerous errors relating to these problems and in diplomacy you must not ''defend'' yourself from other attacks, but counter-attack. We should have included the Nakchichevan issue long ago as wel as the massacres in Sumgait, Kirovabad, and Baku. We should me far more aggressive and active.

[ArmeniaR]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

sultan aliev in tha house....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jseKu8E3Km8&feature=player_embedded

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

best answer ever:


150, 000 populated Karabakh could not break out hostilities against Azerbaijan, RA President

June 23, 2010 | 17:59
The speech of RA President Serzh Sargsyan at the Konrad Adenauer Foundation was followed by questions. A certain Gajibeyli, who claimed to be from Aghdam, addressed the President, “Since 1992 my village has been occupied by Armenian-Russian units. It is already for 18 years that I have been unable to return to my motherland. How long will you occupy my motherland?” he asked.

“Until you, Mr. Gajibeyli, stop making four serious mistakes in one sentence,” the Armenian President replied. “First, it was Azerbaijan that attacked Nagorno-Karabakh from Aghdam in 1992 and occupied its major part. Besides, there was not a single Russian soldier in the mentioned region and you should not explain your defeat by any other reasons. Thirdly, I have no relation to the forces deployed in that region to be able to help you. That region is controlled by the armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh and this situation was imposed upon them – Karabakh with a population of 150,000 could not have started hostilities against Azerbaijan, with its population of several millions. That was an imposed war, which made the Karabakh people to take up arms and save their independence at the expense of their children’s lives,” Serzh Sargsyan said.

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

best answer ever:


150, 000 populated Karabakh could not break out hostilities against Azerbaijan, RA President

June 23, 2010 | 17:59
The speech of RA President Serzh Sargsyan at the Konrad Adenauer Foundation was followed by questions. A certain Gajibeyli, who claimed to be from Aghdam, addressed the President, “Since 1992 my village has been occupied by Armenian-Russian units. It is already for 18 years that I have been unable to return to my motherland. How long will you occupy my motherland?” he asked.

“Until you, Mr. Gajibeyli, stop making four serious mistakes in one sentence,” the Armenian President replied. “First, it was Azerbaijan that attacked Nagorno-Karabakh from Aghdam in 1992 and occupied its major part. Besides, there was not a single Russian soldier in the mentioned region and you should not explain your defeat by any other reasons. Thirdly, I have no relation to the forces deployed in that region to be able to help you. That region is controlled by the armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh and this situation was imposed upon them – Karabakh with a population of 150,000 could not have started hostilities against Azerbaijan, with its population of several millions. That was an imposed war, which made the Karabakh people to take up arms and save their independence at the expense of their children’s lives,” Serzh Sargsyan said.

Good response there.

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

azeris again say they were the ones who initiated the attack but then there are retards like ganira pashayeva who claim Armenia attacked them:

Karabakh conflict settlement to avert deaths on front line, Azerbaijani FM
Wed 23 June 2010 | 09:53 GMT Text size:


Elmar Mammadyarov
Armenia accuse Azerbaijan of bellicose rhetoric, but this rhetoric will not end before the settlement of the conflict, said Azerbaijani FM.

The recent armed incident in the Karabakh conflict area that caused deaths is a "message to the entire world" that such incidents will repeat unless Armenia liberates Azerbaijani lands", said Azerbaijani FM Elmar Mammadyarov.

"Some, including Armenia, accuse Azerbaijan of bellicose rhetoric, but this rhetoric will not end before the settlement of the conflict", Mammadyarov told a briefing with Austrian counterpart Michael Spindelegger in Baku on Wednesday.

Interfax-Azerbaijan

[burjuin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F_jaMLLZF0

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

TURKEY, AZERBAIJAN TO LAUNCH JOINT MILITARY FACILITY

LAMIYA ADILGIZI BAKU
22 June 2010, Tuesday

Turkey will join forces with Azerbaijan to establish an arms production
company in Baku as part of Turkey's years-long military cooperation
with the South Caucasus country, which remains at war with Armenia
over the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute, the Azerbaijani press reported
over the weekend.

Azerbaijani company Azersimtel is currently holding discussions over
the structure and scope of the new company's operations. The Turkish
Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation (MKE) will reportedly
hold a large share of the military facility. In the first stage of
production, the company is expected to produce attack weaponry for
the Azerbaijani armed forces.

In the following stages of production, the company will produce
materiel, munitions and ammunition, as well. Using the trade networks
of both Azerbaijan and Turkey, the arms company will most likely
export some of its products abroad.

Military cooperation between Azerbaijan and Turkey first emerged in
1992 with an agreement signed between the Azerbaijani and Turkish
governments on military education. Since then, the Azerbaijani and
Turkish governments have closely cooperated on defense and security.

As a sign of high-level military relations, Azerbaijani Defense
Minister Col. Gen. Safar Abiyev traveled to Turkey on an official
visit this April. The Turkish and Azerbaijani delegations discussed
cooperation in military areas during that visit as well as issues
related to the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute.

ASELSAN, a leading Turkish defense contractor, currently operates
in Azerbaijan.

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

THERE ARE SERIOUS REASONS FOR MOSCOW TO REFLECT, SAYS EXPERT

Aysor.am
June 22, 2010

In a result of the trilateral meeting between presidents of Armenia,
Azerbaijan and Russia, the Karabakh talks stepped six months back,
said political scientist Sergey Minasian.

"The most important result of this talk is that Karabakh talks stepped
six months back to the situation ahead of trilateral meeting in Sochi.

It is also important that the format has been kept, and that Russia,
who acts as the OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chair and main military and
strategic ally of Armenia, continues playing an important role in
the peaceful talks," said analyst. He pointed that in result of last
developments the Armenian-Russian partnership got stronger, which is
a subject for concerns in Azerbaijan and beyond it.

"It can be said of the end of Turkey's aspirations -- even though
they were hopeless -- to be involved into the process of settlement
to the Karabakh conflict," said Sergey Minasian. In Sergey Minasian's
opinion, Azerbaijan expected Turkey's involvement into the process,
and that was the reason for Aliev's frustration when he was leaving
from St. Petersburg.

Pointing at the Declaration signed on November 2, 2008 at the
Meiendorf Castle outside Moscow, Minasian said that the sides that time
demonstrated readiness to settle the conflict by peaceful meanings;
however the Declaration hasn't acquired any legal force.

"At least, the facts that the Declaration is signed by Russian
President, and that last developments occurred several hours after
the trilateral meeting, organised by president of this country, had
been held, as I think, cause serious reasons for Moscow to reflect."

[Mos]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

We need international observers who will monitor the cease fire line, this way Azeris will not be able to attack or provoke, and if the do their attack will be clearly seen by the international people and thus they will be heavily condemned. EU should apply the same roadmap they did for Kosovo for NKR. I would argue NKR is the most democratic in the Caucuses and definitely more democratic than Kosovo.

On the other hand, if Azeris attack fully and we repel them, than we'll have independence for NKR. Thus Azeris don't want to take such a chance as they know the NKR defences are very solid and they will suffer heavy causalities upon attacking. We need to also remember that we are part of CSTO and Azerbaijan isn't, though I sometimes doubt how willing Russia would be in fighting Azerbaijan which has fairly good relation with Russia and gives them gas and oil.