Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[burjuin]

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[Artashes]

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Artashes,
I agree with you about the past %100%, but I don't see the benefit of letting any new developments fall under that sad pasts shadow.
Who the Kurds are and what they did, or what they are capable under right circumstances is a fact. But I don't see any benefit of letting a new state be our enemy even before it is born.
Haven't we got enough enemies?
What Kurds did as ethnic group under Turkish mentors controll can be totally different from what future leadership or general population of a country that is based on different geopolitical needs and aspirations will do.

--- to let that fall under that sad pasts shadow ---
Although I understand your point, wherever that shadow is cast is what determines what is under that shadow.

Yeah I think it's absolutely pointless. This doesn't mean anything, change anything. You can't be a citizen of a pretend place that doesn't exist at the moment. Become a citizen of Armenia, and contribute to its advancement, so one day, when the opportunities presents itself, we are ready to retake what is our: which is just another part of Armenia.

As far as the Kurds, i think it needs to be understood that there are different factions within the Kurds, and we need to best understand that to make the best of the situation. The Kurds in Turkey, as far as the PKK is concerned, are about as left wing as it gets, and this puts them far them far away from either Islamists or NATO. At this point it needs to be understood they represent a different entity that those who committed the Genocide.

--- so one day when the opportunity exists ---

--- they represent a different entity ---
Ok, as I said ... Not good for us to start fight with them and both turcs.

The entity we are talking about is kurds, and the goal that falls under that sad pasts shadow , and the goal of today are --- IDENTICLE ---
I know that's probably just a coincidence.
Ok, how about if we stop dancing and simply say ... We are not against your struggle with the turcs, but understand , when time is right we are coming back to claim what our murdered family had stolen.

[londontsi]

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Russia to build a military base in Azerbaijan, i cant find any news in english, only russian sources, please can u guys find more info on that

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[armnuke]

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What a strategic ally. I thought we joined the Eurasian Union for security purposes

[burjuin]

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August 18, 2015 14:08

Twenty air defense units in CIS states put on high alert for Combat Commonwealth-2015 drills - Russian Defense Ministry (Part 2)

MOSCOW. Aug 18 (Interfax-AVN) - The first phase of the CIS Combat Commonwealth-2015 joint air defense exercises began on Tuesday, the Russian Defense Ministry has reported.

"At the start of the drills, units and divisions of the air defense and missile defense troops of the Aerospace Forces stationed in the Moscow region were put on high alert. The exercises will consist of three phases and will continue until September 11," the Russian ministry's press service said in a report seen by Interfax-AVN on Tuesday.

The first stage of the drills included measures to put the forces participating in the Combat Commonwealth-2015 maneuvers on high alert at their permanent bases.

"In this context, some 20 military units of the Armed Forces of the states taking part in the CIS Joint Air Defense System were put on high alert," the ministry said.

In total, the exercises will involve more than 1,000 servicemen and over 200 units of the Aerospace Force's military and special-purpose hardware, including S-400 Triumf surface-to-air missile systems, S-300 Favorit air defense missile systems, MiG-29, Sukhoi Su-24, Su-34, Su-27, Su-30, Su-25, MiG-31 and Tupolev Tu-22 airplanes, and Mil Mi-8AMTSh helicopters.

Apart from the Russian units, air defense force servicemen from another five CIS member countries - Belarus, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia - will take part in the drills.

"The other participants in the CIS Joint Air Defense System will participate in the exercises as observers," the ministry said.

The first phase of the drills will be wrapped up by redeploying personnel and military hardware of the countries involved in the maneuvers to the Ashuluk training range in Russia's southern Astrakhan region, which will host the active phase of the exercises.

The personnel and the hardware will reach the Ashuluk range using a combined method: by rail and by air.

http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=612290

[Federate]

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What a strategic ally. I thought we joined the Eurasian Union for security purposes

It's not confirmed. Anyway, there was a Russian "base" (actually a radar station) at this same location until a few years ago and it did not change anything in terms of Russian relations w/ Armenia vis-a-vis Azerbaijan. Also to add that the radar station is exclusive for usage by Russia and is meant for long range missile detection. It is not connected to Azerbaijan's air defense grid.

That said, maybe Armenia can offer to host this same type of radar station on its soil if it covers the appropriate range that Russia wants by placing it in Azerbaijan.

[Federate]

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Azerbaijani diaspora leader killed in Ukraine - VİDEO
17 August 2015

http://en.apa.az/xeber_azerbaijani_diaspora_leader_killed_in_uk_230864.html

Two more Azerbaijanis reportedly killed in Kherson and Crimea
18 August 2015

http://en.apa.az/xeber_two_more_azerbaijanis_reportedly_killed__230896.html

I wonder who is interested in killing Azeries.

Not the first times either btw. I have been following the news in Ukraine and there's been a few other reported cases of Azerbaijanis turning up dead there, notably this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleh_Babayev

[burjuin]

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Armenia Defense Minister visits military units over beginning of summer trainings
19:33, 18.08.2015
Region:Armenia
Theme: Politics

Summer trainings have begun in Armenia’s Armed Forces military units today. The solemn events at military units were attended by the management of Armenia’s Ministry of Defense, Armed Forces, and General Staff, headed by Armenia’s Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan.

The minister personally handed the Colors to the commanders of one of the military units. Congratulating the officers and soldiers, Ohanyan said the Colors are the symbol of selfless service to the homeland, Armenia’s Defense Ministry press-service reports.

A solemn event was also held in one of the aviation units, which was also attended by the Defense Ministry and the Chief of the General Staff, Lieutenant General Yuri Khachaturov.
Armenia News - NEWS.am

http://news.am/eng/news/282087.html

[burjuin]

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[argin]

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This railway can help in regards of military and moving of equipment.why would Russia appose it tho?

Armenia PM: We’ll construct Iran-Armenia railway despite Russia’s stance
[ 19 August 2015 11:42 ]

“We also have our own interests”

Baku. Turbet Baghirova – APA. Of course, the construction of Iran-Armenia railway may not be in the interests of our neighbors, but we must still construct it, Armenia’s PM Hovik Abrahamyan told Armenian News –NEWS.am, touching on the perspectives of Iran-Armenia railway and Russia’s stance over that issue.

In his words, Armenia and Russia are strategic allies and members of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU). “But we also have our own interests - the interests of our people and homeland – and I’m ready to discuss the issue with them as a partner,” Abrahamyan said.

Iran-Armenia railway has a very important strategic significance for Armenia and its economy, the PM said. “And we’ll do that, regardless of whether it offends anyone or is not in their interests. The fact is that the successful completion of the construction will contribute to the economic activation and development of business in our country,” Abrahamyan said.