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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    A somewhat realistic view




    Armenia's collective security role makes new war 'unlikely'
    Thu 26 August 2010 | 13:42 GMT Text size:


    CSTO
    News.Az interviews the editor of the Moscow Defense Brief, Mikhail Barabanov.

    How do you assess the current military balance of power in the region? Is it militarized? Who holds military superiority - Armenia, Azerbaijan or Georgia?

    The militarization of the South Caucasus has long since gone beyond what is natural in the modern world and now the region is among the most militarized, which gives cause for concern. All three South Caucasus states have a very high level of defence expenditure, diverting large resources from the needs of economic development.

    Georgia is currently in an unusual state, since its loss in the 2008 war and Russia’s readiness to defend the former Georgian SSR's autonomous regions has almost deprived Saakashvili's militarism of any prospects. It is clear that Georgia cannot expect to get its autonomies back and has no real chance of successful military resistance against Russia. Therefore, Georgian military construction has lost its purpose, to a greater extent, though Saakashvili’s regime boasts of its concept of total defence and so on. But in fact we can see a decline in Georgian military expenditure, a reduction in purchases, which may continue or even accelerate if Saakashvili leaves politics. The military factor in Georgian policy will decline, because it is paralysed by Russia’s position and the absolute superiority of its military power. It is now largely unimportant to Georgia whether it has an army or not, since the Georgian armed forces are unable to achieve their objectives (protection of the state and regime and “restoration of territorial integrity”) when Russia is ready to use force.

    As for Azerbaijan and Armenia, it is clear that Azerbaijan is investing a great deal in military construction in an attempt to convert its resource superiority over Armenia into military superiority. Armenia’s success in the Karabakh war was mostly achieved through better organization, unification and motivation of its armed forces compared to Azerbaijan's. The Armenian victory was achieved through the human factor. This mostly comes from the overall level of very high ethnic solidarity of the Armenian nation. Therefore, the main issue of the balance of powers between Armenia and Azerbaijan is whether Azerbaijan will be able to compensate for Armenia’s excellence in organization and unity by numerical and technical superiority in its military construction.

    It is impossible to talk about who has military superiority without examining real war. But on the whole, I think Azerbaijan's military construction is based on the consideration mentioned above and is logical and correct. The resource consolidation and efforts at technical modernization of the armed forces of Azerbaijan are impressive in scope and naturally tip the scales in favour of the Azerbaijani side. On the other hand, it is currently unclear whether this is enough to achieve political or at least military success. I think Azerbaijan has not yet managed to “intimidate” Armenia with its military construction, while the possibility of an attempt at a military solution of the Karabakh conflict remains unlikely.

    Russia is to supply Baku with S-300 Favorit anti-missile complexes, while Belarus has supplied Azerbaijan with five SU-25 attack planes and nine self-propelled howitzers. Baku is also planning to purchase military hardware from China. What is Azerbaijan preparing for?

    Azerbaijan is preparing for the expansion of its political capacities in an attempt to bring the “military factor” back into its relations with Armenia, which in fact gives broad scope for pressure on Armenia. Strong Azerbaijani armed forces will shake Armenia's confidence in the preservation of Karabakh and the overall opportunity of preserving the status quo.

    The possibility of an attempt at purely military revenge by Azerbaijan does not seem very likely to me, since Azerbaijan will hardly be able to wage a blitzkrieg to invade Karabakh and all the territories occupied by the Armenians even with its increased armed forces. A new long-term war will not give anything to Azerbaijan and just worsen its international situation, leading to the involvement of Russia, the international community and so on. The world recognizes facts only if it is made to face them. This is why everything would have to be settled in days. I do not believe that Azerbaijan would be able to create sufficient military superiority over the Armenians to settle everything in just a few days.

    May Azerbaijan be involved in a military conflict with Iran, if military confrontation were to start between Iran and the US?

    Azerbaijan will hardly be involved in such a conflict; neither Azerbaijan, Iran nor Russia have an interest in it. The United States may be partially interested in this involvement but President Aliyev will assume responsibility. Azerbaijan could take the US side in such a conflict, if the United States conditionally promised to return Karabakh, but the United States would not be able to return Karabakh to Azerbaijan anyway.

    Armenia is concerned that Azerbaijan may start military actions in Nagorno-Karabakh, considering Baku’s armament rate. Meanwhile, Yerevan has prolonged the term of the Russian military base in Gyumri. Would Armenia use the Russian military presence as a shield if Baku attempted to restore its territorial integrity by force?

    Certainly, the whole meaning of the presence of Russian troops in Armenia is that they are guarantors primarily against Azerbaijan, and, secondly, against Turkey.

    These Russian troops can hardly be a shield but they make Russia's intervention in the conflict inevitable and would most likely prevent an Azerbaijani offensive against Armenia proper (the territory of the Armenian SSR).

    In response to Azerbaijan's bellicose statements, Yerevan systematically refers to the Collective Security Organization Treaty (CSTO) and the organization's involvement in an armed conflict if Baku were to liberate its occupied lands through war. Is CSTO involvement in the Karabakh conflict realistic and would Russia take this step?

    I think that in the main Armenia’s participation in the CSTO makes it unlikely that Azerbaijan would start a new war, even if the Azerbaijani leadership was confident about military superiority over the Armenians (which is, I think, far from the case now). Russia remains free on this issue, which forces both conflict parties to consider it as a balancing factor and actively appeal to the Russian side. Thus, some vagueness in position is profitable for Russia. Naturally, if the Russian leadership were to face a real conflict, it would have a dilemma. Therefore, Russia would bring pressure to bear to end hostilities and return to the status quo. Therefore, I would like to repeat that if a decision were taken to start war, Azerbaijan would have only a few days for this war. Azerbaijan would hardly be able to defeat the Armenians, occupy Karabakh or liberate part of its land in this period. Therefore, a solution purely by force is highly unlikely and not promising for Azerbaijan.

    B.A
    News.Az
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      'Seyran Ohanyan behaves as chief of department in Russian Defense Ministry'
      Thu 26 August 2010 | 12:04 GMT Text size:


      Seyran Ohanyan
      'It is ridiculous that Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan behaves as chief of department in Russian Defense Ministry.

      'Seyran Ohanyan is now saying that any attack against Nagorno Karabakh will be resisted', said spokesman for the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry Eldar Sabiroglu in a response to the statement from Armenian Minister Seyran Ohanyan that 'Russia will ensure Armenia’s security regardless of where the threat comes from'.

      'He is already behaving as the chief of department for the Russian Defense Ministry and it seems ridiculous. Our lands are occupied. Armenian separatists must be withdrawn from these lands by all means.

      The agreement on cooperation has been signed between the two states and this is their business. This protocol can neither stop nor curb the Azerbaijani army. In this case, why should Azerbaijani army restrict its capacities? We believe in these conditions Azerbaijan must provide the national army with modern types of arms in the mandatory order', Sabiroglu said.

      ANS PRESS

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        Armenia should gain maximum from Russia, expert says
        August 27, 2010 | 12:42

        Armenia should gain maximum benefit from relations with its partners, in particular Russia, the member of public council at Armenian Defense Ministry, psychologist David Jamalyan toled the journalists on Friday. According to him, signing of the protocol amending Russian-Armenian agreement on Russian base’s deployment is a great contribution to balance of forces in the region.

        “Azerbaijani agitation machine does it utmost to assure the society that nothing has changed after the Armenian-Russian protocol was signed, but it is not true. Russia took on commitment to ensure Armenia’s security and this reduces probability of hostilities’ resumption,” he noted, adding that one cannot fully rule out that war may resume.

        Director of Noravank analytical center, political expert Gagik Harutunyan stressed that the agreement will enable to equip Armenian army with modern arms.

        Commenting on possible Russia’s sales of S-300 air defense systems, Harutunyan said that Russia has been selling it for already 10 years but “it has not appeared in Tehran yet”.

        As NEWS.am reported earlier, a protocol prolonging deployment of the Russian military base #102 was signed in Yerevan on August 20. The document was signed by the Russian Defense Minister Anatoliy Serdyukov and his Armenian counterpart Seyran Ohanyan.

        Under the protocol, the military base will remain in Armenia for the next 49 years (instead of 25 years). It will also ensure Armenia’s security.

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          Armenian peacekeepers in Irak:










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            Azerbaijani specialists dismiss Armenian minister's comments
            Fri 27 August 2010 | 14:07 GMT Text size:

            Azerbaijani military experts have dismissed comments about Armenia's military capability by Defence Minister Seyran Ohanyan.

            Seyran Ohanyan made the comments in an interview with Radio Liberty's Armenian Service.

            Azerbaijani military expert Ildrim Mammadov accused the minister of wishful thinking in his remarks that Armenia could deal with the S-300 anti-missile batteries to be supplied to Azerbaijan by Russia.

            "I used to know Seyran; he was born and grew up in Shamakhi and studied at the Baku command lycee where he seemed to miss half his lessons. His statements about the anti-missile complexes look amateurish. Ohanyan's threat to reduce the effectiveness of the S-300s, if they were supplied to Azerbaijan, seemed to imply the use of radio noise and electromagnetic technology to ‘blind’ the anti-missile batteries' radars," Mammadov said.

            He described as "laughable" Ohanyan’s remark that Armenia would purchase longer-range, precision destructive systems from Russia. "Armenia has already paid with its economy, industry and residuals of independence and has been unable to buy anything for several years since it has no money and has nothing with which to pay the Russian side."

            Another military expert, Uzeyir Jafarov said that Ohanyan's bravado was intended for domestic consumption to soothe the Armenian public.

            1 news.az



            this whole interview is laughable

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              28.08.10
              Հաղորդագրություն մամուլի համար
              ԼՂՀ ՊԲ մամուլի ծառայությունից ստացված տեղեկատվության համաձայն՝ ս.թ. օգոստոսի 27-ին, ժամը 21.00-ի սահմանում, ղարաբաղա-ադրբեջանական զորքերի շփման գոտու հյուսիսային հատվածը պաշտպանող հայ դիրքապահներին է հանձնվել Ադրբեջանի ԶՈՒ կրտսեր սերժանտ Ռոման Նովրուզ օղլի Հյուսեյնովը: 1985թ. ծնված Ռոման Հյուսեյնովը ադրբեջանական բանակի 191-րդ լեռնահրաձգային բրիգադի 2-րդ հրաձգային գումարտակի 6-րդ վաշտի 1-ին հրաձգային դասակի 1-ին ջոկի հրամանատարն է:
              Ըստ նախաքննության տվյալների, պայմանագրային զինծառայող Ռոման Նովրուզ օղլի Հյուսեյնովը հայկական ուժերին է հանձնվել զորամասի հրամանատարության կողմից իր հանդեպ պարբերաբար իրականացված նվաստացուցիչ գործողությունների պատճառով:
              Մանրամասները ճշտվում են:

              ՀՀ ՊՆ տեղեկատվության և հասարակայնության հետ կապերի վարչություն

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno...h_Defense_Army says that NKR has 2 SU-25s and some attack helicopters, I know it's pretty insignificant considering, but can anyone confirm this for sure? Surely any number of aircraft will be useful if a new war erupts.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno...h_Defense_Army says that NKR has 2 SU-25s and some attack helicopters, I know it's pretty insignificant considering, but can anyone confirm this for sure? Surely any number of aircraft will be useful if a new war erupts.
                  According to this source, it's true http://www.da.mod.uk/colleges/arag/d.../08(17)CWB.pdf Azerbaijan: Is War Over Nagornyy Karabakh a Realistic Option?
                  Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                    Azeri soldier flees army to Armenian side

                    August 28, 2010 | 14:45
                    On August 27 evening, an Azerbaijani soldier gave himself up to the Armenian servicemen on duty at one of the sections of the contact line between the NKR and Azeri armed forces.

                    The press service of the NKR Ministry of Defense informed NEWS.am that the solder’s name is Novruz ogly Ghuseinov.

                    The Azeri solder explained he was unable to endure harassment any more.

                    Last edited by Federate; 08-28-2010, 04:11 PM. Reason: Added source

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
                      Azeri soldier flees army to Armenian side

                      August 28, 2010 | 14:45
                      On August 27 evening, an Azerbaijani soldier gave himself up to the Armenian servicemen on duty at one of the sections of the contact line between the NKR and Azeri armed forces.

                      The press service of the NKR Ministry of Defense informed NEWS.am that the solder’s name is Novruz ogly Ghuseinov.

                      The Azeri solder explained he was unable to endure harassment any more.

                      http://news.am/eng/news/29092.html
                      With all of our army's shortfalls, it must be paradise compared to the azeri side.

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