Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Joseph]

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It happened 6 years ago. Not something new.

I figured that. It also seems the Azeris are flooding Armenian sites to find out their actual losses.

[AbuSindi]

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Hi there, just in case you missed the passed 22 years of ceasefire, they are the only ones who break it. If you haven't missed the last week, they pretty much broke the real ceasefire and tried establishing their own bull xxxx ceasefire to somehow hold onto gains.

Great job stating the obvious HyeSocialist...I'm glad you're paying attention.
Someone asked if we think the ceasefire would hold and I was just pointing out that it had already been violated.

[Joseph]

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I remember about a year ago Richard Giragosian said that Armenia should diversify its weapons procurement.
Turned out he was right.

Armenia has started to. Although I'm sure the equipment used by the NKR forces is not as diversified. More needs to be done via China, South Africa, etc.

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

There was nothing antiarmenian or proazeri in that article mentioned earlier. I wonder about the motives of some of the members here sometimes. Here is what you should be worried about.
Italian Sponda Sud reports about ISIS militants fighting in Karabakh on side of Azerbaijan

by Naira Badalyan

Wednesday, April 6, 02:58
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Italian Sponda Sud reports that an unconfirmed number of ISIS militants are fighting in Karabakh on the side of Azerbaijan these days.

According to the source, many extremists that fought under flags of the "Islamic caliphate" have gathered in Azerbaijan. During the last months, mass media in Ankara and Baku wrote about Azerbaijani legionaries that have returned from Syria and Iraq. About 300 were killed in fighting, but more than 2,500 are in the territory of Azerbaijan - their new recruiter. Aliyev can send them to Nagorny Karabakh together with the regular army.

http://www.arminfo.am/index.cfm?objectid=0155AFB0-FBC5-11E5-8C440EB7C0D21663

[Mher]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

There was nothing antiarmenian or proazeri in that article mentioned earlier. I wonder about the motives of some of the members here sometimes. Here is what you should be worried about.
Italian Sponda Sud reports about ISIS militants fighting in Karabakh on side of Azerbaijan

by Naira Badalyan

Wednesday, April 6, 02:58
Inline images 1

Italian Sponda Sud reports that an unconfirmed number of ISIS militants are fighting in Karabakh on the side of Azerbaijan these days.

According to the source, many extremists that fought under flags of the "Islamic caliphate" have gathered in Azerbaijan. During the last months, mass media in Ankara and Baku wrote about Azerbaijani legionaries that have returned from Syria and Iraq. About 300 were killed in fighting, but more than 2,500 are in the territory of Azerbaijan - their new recruiter. Aliyev can send them to Nagorny Karabakh together with the regular army.



http://www.arminfo.am/index.cfm?obje...440EB7C0D21663

I highly doubt this. I know Armenians have been talking about this since friday but it cant be true. This would make absolutely zero sense for the following reasons

First of all, extremist Sunni's consider Shiites the biggest enemy of Islam as is. To make matters many times worse, Azerbaijan is one of the most secular Islamic countries in the world. To Islamic State there isn't a greaer enemy of their cause than people like Azeris. Even beyond those factors, groups like Islamic State don't recognize states.

[Haykakan]

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I highly doubt this. I know Armenians have been talking about this since friday but it cant be true. This would make absolutely zero sense for the following reasons

First of all, extremist Sunni's consider Shiites the biggest enemy of Islam as is. To make matters many times worse, Azerbaijan is one of the most secular Islamic countries in the world. To Islamic State there isn't enemy of their cause than people like Azeris. Even beyond those factors, groups like Islamic State don't recognize states.

But they do recognize money. They are very much a friend of Turkey and will do as it asks since they are being forced out of Iraq and Syria. How could you say this is unlikely when we had the same jihadists fighting in the war last time?

[Hakob]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

There was nothing antiarmenian or proazeri in that article mentioned earlier. I wonder about the motives of some of the members here sometimes. Here is what you should be worried about.
Italian Sponda Sud reports about ISIS militants fighting in Karabakh on side of Azerbaijan

by Naira Badalyan

Wednesday, April 6, 02:58
Inline images 1

Italian Sponda Sud reports that an unconfirmed number of ISIS militants are fighting in Karabakh on the side of Azerbaijan these days.

According to the source, many extremists that fought under flags of the "Islamic caliphate" have gathered in Azerbaijan. During the last months, mass media in Ankara and Baku wrote about Azerbaijani legionaries that have returned from Syria and Iraq. About 300 were killed in fighting, but more than 2,500 are in the territory of Azerbaijan - their new recruiter. Aliyev can send them to Nagorny Karabakh together with the regular army.



http://www.arminfo.am/index.cfm?obje...440EB7C0D21663

Haykakan, did you swallow Naira badalian's bait too?
How does she know there are 2500 of them? Did she count them? Does Azery mod report to her?
I know for a fact that our MOD would tell her to get lost.
So, do we have to worry, really?
I consider her working for anti Armenian agendas most of the time.

[Azad]

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"According to the source, many extremists that fought under flags of the "Islamic caliphate" have gathered in Azerbaijan. During the last months, mass media in Ankara and Baku wrote about Azerbaijani legionaries that have returned from Syria and Iraq."

The key is returned.

[Mher]

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But they do recognize money. They are very much a friend of Turkey and will do as it asks since they are being forced out of Iraq and Syria. How could you say this is unlikely when we had the same jihadists fighting in the war last time?

the last time the factors were different. both countries just broke out of the soviet union when fighting began. nobody knew whether these countries would stay secular, or whether they would go back to their historic religious tendencies. So it very much looked like a Christian v. Islamic fight at the start. However, many of the mujahadeen left once it became apparent it had nothing to do with religion. Also, back then, the divide between Shiite and Sunni was nowhere as great as it is today.

Today we've had 20 years of Azerbaijan going around and declaring how its the most secular Islamic country in the world, and declaring its love for Israel at every corner.

The factors are very much different.

However your Turkey theory could be true. Since everyone already knew the Azeris couldn't fight to save their own mothers, I wouldn't be surprised if they took such precautions.

[Shant03]

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