Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[gokorik]

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Seriously guys the post for past 2-3 days looks like Armenians are trying to put Azerbaijani propaganda on shame. Anything and everything that can be doubted or suspected has been so. Right or wrong, substantiated or not, fact or not.
Stop people.
Last thing, our soldiers are fed, clothed, armed enough that you won a war.
Territories or posts are held enough that Armenian people don't feel alarmed.
We have what we have.
Our soldiers wear underpants, socks and shirts.
What else is there for this fake generals in here to criticise.
I am getting fed up man. When are people going to discuss reall issues?

What do you want? For every Armenian to keep their mouth shut if they have something negative to say lol. Criticism of state institutions is what separates open societies from censored ones. Sorry if it annoyed you but you're free to kick rocks. Fake general out....

The standard "Shtora" systems on tanks could blind UAVs. They need some fitting for overhead UAVs. For magnetic sensors
The could be cure for this too. I just think that those kamikaze UAVs were the biggest surprise by Azeris. There won't be second time.

A lot of fake generals recently huh. O, by the way, you are wrong. Shtora operates in the infrared spectrum, not the thermal spectrum which is what those suicide drones use for guidance. Shtora is used exclusively to counter the infrared guidance system on SALOS ATGM'S. A high powered laser like the green ones you can buy are what you would want to use to fry a thermal imager.

[ASALA2116]

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Where did you see this? Provide pictures.

Look back at the pictures like 2 or 3 pages back. You can't tell boots are not comfortable by looking at them. I'm not bashing our Army but we just need to discipline up on the gear. I understand there are volunteers but why are they not prepared. Screw Azeris and Turks , we are talking on behalf of the goodness of our Army and not bashing no one. I love to ser our boys in proper uniforms. This also goes to Government. From what I've seen , our President and many ministers wear the old issue. Why aren't they wearing Italian Vegetato camo like everyone else ?

[Hakob]

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I'm no general. Neither fake nor real. But I do have knowledge about military gear.
Many of us are impatient and anxious during these tough times. It will pass and we will succeed. We've been through much tougher times.

Armnuke Jan, I appreciate your worries and heart for our military. But we should controll our discussions into deeper and real pertinent issues.
You guys sound and talk like a parent who's daughter has gone on a first date. Is she dressed right? Will dhe behave right? Is the guy good guy? How about if this will happen how about that?
Just to remind you, our military may be small and does not wear 3 piece suit militarily. But it is mature in moral and everything else and knows how to deal knock out blows.

[Federate]

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Look back at the pictures like 2 or 3 pages back.

I went back 5 pages and only pictures of soldiers are these ones http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l=1#post371092 where all I see are black boots and no white sports shoes.

I understand there are volunteers but why are they not prepared.

Because they're volunteers and come by on short notice. The entire Artsakh army was made up of volunteers in the past, many of who did not have boots. The army does apparently need to be better prepared in dealing with large influx of volunteers though. There's got to be some sort of plan on how to organize volunteers for when the next war breaks out instead of having to turn down volunteers for organizational or logistical reasons.

This also goes to Government. From what I've seen , our President and many ministers wear the old issue. Why aren't they wearing Italian Vegetato camo like everyone else ?

Because their "camouflage" is only symbolic, it represents their rank and state of mind going into meetings rather than serving as actual camouflage. You're reading too much into this.

[ASALA2116]

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I went back 5 pages and only pictures of soldiers are these ones http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l=1#post371092 where all I see are black boots and no white sports shoes.


Because they're volunteers and come by on short notice. The entire Artsakh army was made up of volunteers in the past, many of who did not have boots. The army does apparently need to be better prepared in dealing with large influx of volunteers though. There's got to be some sort of plan on how to organize volunteers for when the next war breaks out instead of having to turn down volunteers for organizational or logistical reasons.


Because their "camouflage" is only symbolic, it represents their rank and state of mind going into meetings rather than serving as actual camouflage. You're reading too much into this.

Symbolic camouflage ? Yes they are the head of state but it is only right you wear the designated camouflage of your Defense Force. That's how I see things. But this is not an important issue but just more like an understanding because I've always wanted to ask that.

[ASALA2116]

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I'm trying to upload the pic but it's not letting me. Anyways it was a photo by burjuin. It's far back a few pages were soldiers are standing around. Again it was just a question and I'm not demanding the head of that soldier. I get it they are volunteers. But like you said volunteers should of been fully equipped.

[Vrej1915]

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[Vrej1915]

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Symbolic camouflage ? Yes they are the head of state but it is only right you wear the designated camouflage of your Defense Force. That's how I see things. But this is not an important issue but just more like an understanding because I've always wanted to ask that.

That camouflage was also our official for more than a decade.
It is only natural, for technical and finacial reasons that all veterans, already having their dress done at home, will wear their dress.

[HajiHabibli]

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I think part of the reason people have concerns about the boots, clothes, gear etc. is psychological. We all know the army's capabilities and professionalism (even among the teenage conscripts) but the way they look does have psychological impacts also. Proper gear/attire reflects that professionalism from a visual perspective. I suppose it might instill more confidence towards the army.

But, again, I doubt anyone questions the professionalism and capabilities of the army.

[AbuSindi]

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AbuSindi-jan.
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Burjuin jan noric em krknum, es da chem asel dzer masin. Es dzez asumey vor et tesaholvaki herinakna Turk. Bayc du chisht es dzer nshac linqov gta ayd videon ev irok hayeri koghmitsa patrastvats. Yerpemn depqer en linum vor "knerers" aselnela tkhamardkutyun. Bayc es dzezanits neroxutyun chem khntrelu vorovhetev ayd barereh dzez ughvats cher. Es karoghem apatsutselu hamar im private messagnere im enkeroch het (vori vra timestamp gohutyun uni) ugharkem dzez vor hamozvek es porcel em parzel vor nmnan ban teghadrelen Hayastanum te voch.

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