Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Mher]

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Yerevan is considering refusing to import Turkish goods: Minister

http://www.verelq.am/ru/node/7778

While symbolically this would be very important, realistic economic factors have to be taken into account. Most of the products in places like Ferdosi market are Turkish made. Turkey will never notice the difference if Armenia bans them. But those people who make a living off of them, and those people who are forced to buy them because they are the cheapest will. What needs to be done in parallel with this is supporting the domestic industry and promoting buying made in Armenia. Otherwise all you'll do is switch from made in Turkey to slightly more expensive made in China.

[Joseph]

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#Armenia defense minister:
"We are working at prompt transportation of arms from #Russia to Armenia."
#NKpeace #KarabakhNow #Karabakh

[ayrudzi]

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Azerbaijani authorities persecute Meydan TV for exposing Azerbaijani
army’s hidden losses in “four-day war”

POLITICS 17:36 27/04/2016 REGION

Azerbaijani authoritieshave filed a criminal case against the
executives and journalists of online Meydan TV, which is one of the
few Azerbaijani independent media outlets.According to one of the
versions, the criminal case against Meydan TV came as a result of the
publication of the list of the dead during the latest escalation in
the Karabakh conflict zone, Russian TV channel Rain reports.

It is reminded that earlier, Meydan TV’seditorial staff presented a
list of 93 killed Azerbaijani soldiers, while the Azerbaijani Ministry
of Defense declared about 31 killed. According to Meydan TV’s
editor-in-chief EminMilli, every person in that list has been really
killed in the military action, and the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense
cannot deny this information.

“Meydan TV enjoys a great trust among the Azerbaijani citizens, and
that is why, when the military action began, soldiers themselves and
the families of the killed – parents, relatives, brothers, sisters –
sent the names and photos of the killed to us. Our journalists and our
people checked the information in place, and they were present at
funerals. Each name we included in the list is checked, and it is not
surprising that the pro-governmental media started to call us
traitorsfor some reason,”Milli notes.

According to him, until now, none of the pro-governmental media
outlets could deny any of the facts published on Meydan TV. He notes
that the pro-governmental Haqqin.az referred to a soldier as if he
were alive, while the TV presented him as dead. However, the editor
clarifies that in reality, the pro-governmental website did not use a
screenshot or a hyperlink to Meydan TV.

“Neither the Ministry of Defense nor the pro-governmental media could
point where Meydan TV had lied. In other words, we did what the
Ministry of Defense actually should have done from the very beginning.
We think that this is a lack of respect by our government and the
Ministry of Defense towards the killed soldiers, their families,
relatives, friends, and the whole Azerbaijani nation,”Milli
emphasizes.

Hefurthernotesthattheindependentmediaareinbadcondi tionsinAzerbaijan.
He reminds that the headquarters of the internet TV channel founded by
him is in Berlin, and that he does not have his own journalists in
Azerbaijan. He saidthere are several citizens, who send video
materials and certain information to them for publication.

“We have professional journalists outside Azerbaijan, who process and
check that information,being abroad. Onlyafterthat, wepublixxxx. It is
a very complicated system and scheme, but, unfortunately, the
independent media in Azerbaijan cannot work in any other way
nowadays,” he notes.

Millialso reminds that in December 2014, he had to close the Meydan TV
office toavoid the authorities’ pressure. He highlights that at that
time, even the office of RFE/RL financed by the US Congress, was
closed.

He notes that the criminal case is launched against Meydan TV’s
“executives,” however, as this online media outlet is not a legal
entity in Azerbaijan, the accusations are brought against certain
people. “Thecriminalcaseisnoteventhequestion. For example, one of our
editors, GunelMovlud, is in Tbilisi, and her two brothers are
currently in prison. One of my relatives was also in prison, he has
been released recently. Several months ago, the police forced 23 of my
relatives to publicly renounce me,”Milli says noting that an
atmosphere of fear is unleashed in the country, like in Stalin times.

Moreover, there are citizens among the 15 people sued for their
collaboration with Meydan TV, who sent only few video materials to the
editors. “It is frightful to think that people can be punished only
for that. Unfortunately, we have to be ready for everything,” he says.

In its turn, the famous American newspaper The Washington Post writes
that before his recent visit to the United States in the beginning of
March, President IlhamAliyev of Azerbaijan pardoned some 148 inmates,
among them some journalists and political prisoners.In Washington,
Aliyev met with Secretary of State John F. Kerry and Vice President
Biden. But no one should conclude that this brutish leader has changed
his ways.

The newspaper notes that after Aliyev returned home, Meydan TV, an
independent digital news platform, announced that prosecutors there
opened a criminal investigation for alleged illegal business
activities, abuse of power and tax evasion. It is highlighted that
those are the standard charges used to harass and silence Aliyev’s
critics.None of the 15 journalists, against whom thecriminal case has
been launched, is yet formally charged, but some have been told they
cannot leave the country, and they are subject to home searches and
equipment confiscations without a warrant.EminMilli, Meydan TV’s
founder, served 16 months in prison on trumped-up charges.

“Mr. Aliyev is always jittery in the face of criticism.He jailed the
journalist Khadija Ismayilova, who first exposed the ownership of
lucrative gold mines by Mr. Aliyev’s daughters, later revealed in the
Panama Papers to be even larger than thought,” The Washington Post
informs.

Journalists, bloggers and activists also remain imprisoned in the
country. The newspaper emphasizes that Meydan TV has recently
challenged the official count of casualties suffered by Azerbaijan in
a “four-day conflict.”

“The experience of Meydan TV teaches that the digital byways can
enable free information to reach closed societies and bypass
tyrants.Mr. Aliyev seems to think he can fight back with secret police
and prosecutors.Perhaps Mr. Aliyev inherited these inclinations from
his father, Heydar, a career KGB man who was appointed to the Soviet
Politburo.While KGB methods can be painful for those targeted, they
can’t seal out the truth, nor stop criticism, as Meydan TV and Ms.
Ismayilova have courageously demonstrated.Mr. Aliyev should free all
political prisoners, drop the prosecution of Meydan TV and sit down to
watch the channel himself. He might learn something about the values a
nation needs to succeed in the modern age,” the newspaper sums up.

Meanwhile, Amal Clooney, a British lawyer of Lebanese descent anda
specialist in international law and human rights, told BBC that as the
attorney of the Azerbaijani journalist Khadija Ismayilova, who was
condemned to 7,5 years of imprisonment in Baku, she will achieve the
European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) decision on her case.

Clooney said that she had met the Azerbaijani ambassador to the US,
who assured her that his country will respect the decision of the
ECHR. According to her, there are also diplomatic methods of resolving
the problem, among which a law bill enacted in the US Congress and
providing sanctions against Azerbaijani officials among them.

Meanwhile, RFE/RL reports that influential American senator Ben Cardin
also met Amal Clooney and discussed Khadija Ismayilova’s case with
her. “I had a very productive conversation with AmalClooney and am
impressed by her passion for and dedication to humanrights,” the
senator posted on his Facebook page.

In addition, the Caucasian Knot reports that the Azerbaijani human
rights defenders and former political prisoners IntigamAliyev,
AnarMammadli, and RasulJafarovreleased a joint statement calling the
Azerbaijani authorities to release the rest of the political prisoners
in the country – journalists, bloggers, political activists, and
religious community representatives.

The authors of the statement note that the restrictions of freedom of
speechand assembly are a serious threat to Azerbaijan’s political
perspectives and democratic progress. “Azerbaijani authorities violate
their international obligations by prosecuting media and enacting
laws, which narrow the possibilities for the political parties’
activities,”AnarMamedli emphasized.

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I thought their deaths were well into the 1000s. How is 98 the real number

[Shant03]

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I thought their deaths were well into the 1000s. How is 98 the real number

Definitely not the thousands but realistically probably between 2-300. Family and friends of the 98 reported it to Meydan. Think how many of them haven't been reported. Mercenaries..etc.

[armnuke]

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While symbolically this would be very important, realistic economic factors have to be taken into account. Most of the products in places like Ferdosi market are Turkish made. Turkey will never notice the difference if Armenia bans them. But those people who make a living off of them, and those people who are forced to buy them because they are the cheapest will. What needs to be done in parallel with this is supporting the domestic industry and promoting buying made in Armenia. Otherwise all you'll do is switch from made in Turkey to slightly more expensive made in China.

Being in Armenia, I've seen that there's a substitute to ALL Turkish products at the same price, lower, and higher.

[armnuke]

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I thought their deaths were well into the 1000s. How is 98 the real number

Is it you hastily discussing numbers again?

[Vrej1915]

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The founder of this armenian military medecine doctrine was late Velerik MARUTIAN, real hero, having realised, with his few colegues more than 4000 surgery in frontlines during first war. He founded just at the end of the war Ivanian's military Gospital.
Once the danger was over, soviet military medical doctrine was back inposed in Yerevan, and Valerik was effectively ousted.
Nevertheless, he was always beloved by the people of Artsakh, who all helped him in the creation of Ivanian Gospital, virtually independent of the central command.
He unfortunately did not survive long, after the war, and died basically operating till his last day.
He must feel confortable and full of joy in his tomb today, realising his doctrine adopted by his successors.
This change of generation needs to be done in all spheres...

Respect to you, Dr MARUTIAN.

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27.04.2016 16:44
1992թ. Շուշիի ազատագրման գործողության նախապատրաստական աշխատանքներից մեկն էլ դաշտային վիրահատարանի «կառուցումն» էր

1992թ. Շուշիի ազատագրման գործողության նախապատրաստական աշխատանքներից մեկն էլ դաշտային վիրահատարանի «կառուցումն» էր։ Իսկ թե ինչպես դա արվեց, նկարագրում է Արցախի ռազմաբժշկական ծառայության հիմնադիր Վալերի Մարությանը իր «Պատերազմի վերքը երկար է մնում» գրքում։

«Ես ու Արթուր Փափազյանը՝ բանակի կապի պետը, շրջեցինք Քարինտակի հետևն ընկած մեր պահակակետերի երկարությամբ մինչև հրամանատարական կետի տեղակայման վայրը։ Փափազյանը ստուգում էր կապի հուսալիությունը, իսկ ես ընտրում էի հոսպիտալի տեղը։ Ճանապարհները սոսկալի վատն էին, հազիվ թե հնարավոր լիներ մինչև մոտակա բուժկետը տեղափոխել ծանր վիրավորներին։ Իսկ մինչև Ստեփանակերտ առավել ևս անհնար էր տեղափոխել։. ճանապարհը ռմբակոծվում էր։ Ընտրեցինք Սղնախի ու Քարինտակի միջև ընկած տարածքը։ Շատ մոտ էինք մարտական գործողությունների գծին, բայց մարտիկները տեսնելով հոսպիտալը իրենց կողքին, ոգրշնչվեցին. առանց բուժօգնության չեն մնա։
Մեզ վրաններ խոստացան, բայց տվեցին միայն երկուսը։ Երկու վրանում ինչպե՞ս տեղավորես վիրահատարանն ու վիրակապարանը։ Բայց պատերազմը պատերազմ է. ոչ բողոքելու ժամանակ կար, ոչ օգնություն սպասելու տեղ։ Եվ մենք սարքավորեցինք իր տեսակի մեջ եզակի մի հոսպիտալ։ Նման բան, իմ կարծիքով, ամբողջ աշխարհում չի եղել։ Մեզանից կես կիլոմետրի վրա խոտի դեզեր կային։ Մամլված ու ամուր կապված խոտի կապերից մենք ընդարձակ վիրահատարան պատրաստեցինք, վիրակապարան և հոսպիտալային սրահ։ Տանիքը ծածկեցինք բացված երկու վրաններով։ Ներսից ամբողջապես պատեցինք թաղանթով։ Հենց ավարտեցինք կառույցը, ձյուն տեղաց»։

[ayrudzi]

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Is it you hastily discussing numbers again?

yes its me you got a problem? You say their media is lieing to them and they like sheep believe everything where is the proof they lost 1000's? its guesses and estimation and saying "ohh the attacking side usualy looses 3 times more" You have solid proof that they lost 1000's?

[Shant03]

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yes its me you got a problem? You say their media is lieing to them and they like sheep believe everything where is the proof they lost 1000's? its guesses and estimation and saying "ohh the attacking side usualy looses 3 times more" You have solid proof that they lost 1000's?

I'm not a mathematician but 98 x 3 /= 1000 lol.

[Vrej1915]

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27.04.2016 16:43
Ադրբեջանական կողմում դատարկվել են մեծ քանակի բնակավայրեր

Samvel Martirosyan

Հստակ հասկանալ, թե ինչ ա կատարվում ճակատում, բարդ է։ Ինչը բավականին ստուգված է. ադրբեջանական կողմում դատարկվել են մեծ քանակի բնակավայրեր։ Հրետանու աշխատանքը լուրջ վնաս է տվել հակառակորդի զինուժին, տեխնիկային, ինչպես նաեւ ենթակառուցվածքներին, օրինակ էներգահամակարգին։
Ինչը դեռ պետք ա ստուգել, բայց բավականին վստահելի աղբյուրներից տեղեկատվություն է գալիս, որ մերոնք նոր դիրքեր են վերցրել, նաեւ Աղդամի կողմը։ Ինչը հաստատ է՝ ադրբեջանական կողմը հիմա ինչ էլ կորցնի, լռելու է, քանի որ իրենք իրենց քարոզչության զոհ են հիմա հանդիսանում, ըստ որի հայերը մենակ նահանջում են։

Նյութի աղբյուր՝ https://www.facebook.com/samvel/posts/10154156690223781

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27.04.2016 17:51
Այս պահին Արցախում հանգիստ է, կրակոցներ չկան

Արծրուն Հովհաննիսյան

Հարգելիներս այս պահին Արցախում հանգիստ է, կրակոցներ չկան։ Առանձնահատուկ լրատվական ակտիվություն մի պահանջեք, ամեն ինչ ներկայացվում է ժամանակին։

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