Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[arakeretzig]

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A cheaper alternative to BM-21 Grad would be 107mm rockets.
They could be found right across the border in Iran. Also, China produces them.
Azeris are using the Turkish-made versions.

Does one really want Iranian/Egyptian weapons? China would be most realistic since they don't have a reason not to sell to us. Also quality wise. All others could be biased.

[burjuin]

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[londontsi]

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What is striking the plane came all the way from Russia, over the Caspian, Iran and Megri and totally empty except a t90 that was awarded 2 years ago.

I hope my deeper assessment is wrong.

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PS.
Not very long age the Armenian media was full of the officials comments saying we have received so much weapons we have no place to store them.

Then we are told, effectively in the middle of a war, the Minister of defence has gone to get some weapons as if he has gone to the local supermarket to buy some cigarettes.

This is all either misinformation or we are in front of some massive diplomatic c.ockup.

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[Joseph]

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A cheaper alternative to BM-21 Grad would be 107mm rockets.
They could be found right across the border in Iran. Also, China produces them.
Azeris are using the Turkish-made versions.

Reminds of the same "Screaming Mimi" systems the Germans used in WWII

[Joseph]

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http://en.azvision.az/1_dead,_8_inju...086-xeber.html

1 dead, 8 injured in shelling of Azerbaijan’s Aghdam district by Armenian Armed Forces


One resident of Azerbaijan`s Aghdam district was killed, eight people injured as a result of shelling by Armenian armed forces, head of executive power of the Aghdam district Ragib Mammadov told on Apr. 28.

A resident of the Agdam district of Azerbaijan were killed, 8 people injured as a result the shelling of Armenian Armed Forces, the head of the executive power of Azerbaijan`s Aghdam district Ragub Mammadov told Trend Apr.28.

According to the report, the victim is a resident of the Chemenli village of Azerbaijan`s Agdam district Famil Mustafayev, who has been wounded in the shelling of Armenian troops and taken to the hospital, after which he died.

Among the seven injured, two are in serious condition, they are - a resident of the Chemenli village Ali Huseynov, born in 1966 and a resident of the Efendili village Elnur Mammadov, born in 1945. It is noted that one of the wounded got concussion.

All the wounded were hospitalized.



Even better news..

A clear understanding of what's going on at the front of the complex. Which is verified. Azerbaijani side were devastated by a large number of settlements. Given the serious damage to the enemy artillery troops, technology, and infrastructure, such as power grid.
It will still be a test, but rather comes from reliable sources that our people have taken up new positions in the Agdam side. What is clear now what the Azerbaijani side will lose silence, because they are now victims of their own propaganda, according to which Armenians alone recede.

According to Samvel Martirosyan on his Facebook page

NKR forces are shelling Terter in addition to settlements near Aghdam.

[AbuSindi]

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Will someone please consider giving a condensed overview of what's being said ?
In English please.
Thanks

Here is a full translation I did myself. These recordings are excerpts from various phone calls. Keep in mind that this was translated from Azerbaijani to Russian, and then into Armenian. I am now translating it into English from the Armenian text. Some things might not make sense because they got lost in translation, but I did my best. You'll get the general idea.

Translation

Phone Call 1: April 26 3:39 a.m.

- Yes Ramil
- Yes there are
- What are they saying about the wounded?
- I know he left, there are many wounded.

Phone Call 2: April 26 3:47 a.m.

- Where are you?
- I haven't arrived there yet
- God knows how many guys they've destroyed
- When was the last time you saw it?
- They started attacking in the direction of Aghdam and Goranboy
- They started attacking?
- They're destroying everything in the direction of Goranboy

Phone Call 3: April 26 3:52 a.m.

- Good evening
- They're bringing back the wounded
- It's like that?
- There are...

Phone Call 4: April 26 6:14 a.m.

- Hello
- Yes where are you?
- They've stopped entirely
- I don't know. The soldiers have died. Maybe the soldiers have died.
- Alright then.

Phone Call 5: April 26 6:17 a.m.

- The artillery shell went inside
- Aliyev has gone crazy
- I don't know if it was the second. The first remained inside.
- Yes, he also mentioned on the civilian line that he is with the commander, so they stop shooting. Ah their mothers (cursing)

Phone Call 6: April 26 10:23 a.m.

- What are you doing?
- Yes just like that
- They said they bombed us intensively
- Again we have many casualties
- This time they bombed us pretty heavily
- Okay
- They are constantly shooting.
- The tanks weren't passing anymore. Today they were moving.
- I thought they said they struck them. It was a lie.
- Oh my...
- They are transporting the soldiers with the vehicles.
- Yes there are many dead among the young ones.
-They are shooting. They are now shooting us towards Ganja.
-Yes they shot us three times from Mrav.
-They brought 33 bodies in the evening.
- I swear this is an embarrassment.
- Yatkhan said there are 200 people dead there.
- Here, some guy from Ganja said they took 11 bodies to Ganja, one of them was a colonel.
- He says there were officers too. They received the targets and everyone got hit.
- I left my phone at home. I'm in the city. He says they are shooting just like that.
- Yes they brought many here too. They took many bodies to Ganja as well.
- There are many dead.
- And how are you?
- They are saying that they brought 30 military personnel to the hospital in an unrecognizable condition. Is that true?
- When?
- Have you been there?
- I just found out. They brought them a little while ago. They're saying there's 30 dead. We'll find out in the evening. There might be more.

[Zeytun]

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Artsakh Political Party Denounces Remarks Made by VP of Armenia's Parliament

http://hetq.am/eng/news/67643/artsakh-political-party-denounces-remarks-made-by-vp-of-armenias-parliament.html

Artsakh’s National Renaissance Party has denounced comments recently made by Armenia National Assembly Vice President Hermineh Naghdalyan to the effect that ‘we do not need those territories surrounding the Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Region’.

Naghdalyan made the comment in a meeting she had with reporters at the parliament on April 25.

Hayk Khanoumyan (photo), president of the National Renaissance party and an Artsakh MP, stated that Naghdalyan’s defeatist statement is an insult to the honor of the Artsakh people.

The party says that Naghdalyan’s continued tenure as parliament vice-president and head of Armenia’s PACE delegation runs counter to the interests of Artsakh and all Armenians.

If She really said that, she should be removed asap.( Plus, her company is getting the same contract ever year for works on the same road.)

[Joseph]

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Comments by Edik Baghdasaryan on FB:

Շփման գծից տասնյակ կիլոմետրեր հեռավորությամբ գտնվող ադրբեջանական բնակավայրերում խուճապ է սկսվել։ Զինվորականները փորձում են կանխել մարդկանց արտահոսքը, սակայն դա կարծես չի հաջողվում։ Ալիեւը նորից իր քաղաքացիներին փախստական է դարձնում։ Խուճապային տրամադրություններ են նաեւ դիրքերում կանգնած զինվորների մոտ։ Ադրբեջանի պաշտպանության նախարար Զաքիր Հասանովը հրահանգել է բանակի բարձրաստիճան սպաներին առաջնագծում հանդիպումներ կազմակերպել անձնակազմի հետ՝ զինվորների ոգին բարձրացնելու համար։ Բայց այնտեղ բոլորն էլ հիշում են նախորդ պատերազմը։ Հայ զինվորը նորից ստիպում է, որ ամեն ինչից զատ, նախ իր հետ պետք է հաշվի նստի Ալիեւը։


LOC tens of kilometers away from the panic of Azerbaijani settlements . The soldiers are trying to stop the outflow of people , but it seems to fail . He makes it back to its citizens is a refugee.

He makes it back to its citizens is a refugee. Panic are well positioned facing the soldiers . Azerbaijani Defense Minister Zakir Hasanov instructed senior army officers on the front line to organize meetings with staff to raise the morale of the soldiers . But there everyone remembered the previous war . The soldier makes it back apart from everything else , he must reckon with his first .

[armnuke]

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Artsakh Political Party Denounces Remarks Made by VP of Armenia's Parliament

http://hetq.am/eng/news/67643/artsakh-political-party-denounces-remarks-made-by-vp-of-armenias-parliament.html

Artsakh’s National Renaissance Party has denounced comments recently made by Armenia National Assembly Vice President Hermineh Naghdalyan to the effect that ‘we do not need those territories surrounding the Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Region’.

Naghdalyan made the comment in a meeting she had with reporters at the parliament on April 25.

Hayk Khanoumyan (photo), president of the National Renaissance party and an Artsakh MP, stated that Naghdalyan’s defeatist statement is an insult to the honor of the Artsakh people.

The party says that Naghdalyan’s continued tenure as parliament vice-president and head of Armenia’s PACE delegation runs counter to the interests of Artsakh and all Armenians.

If She really said that, she should be removed asap.( Plus, her company is getting the same contract ever year for works on the same road.)

Isn't this the same person who said "not everything soviet is bad" a couple of months ago?

[arakeretzig]

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PS.
Not very long age the Armenian media was full of the officials comments saying we have received so much weapons we have no place to store them.

Then we are told, effectively in the middle of a war, the Minister of defence has gone to get some weapons as if he has gone to the local supermarket to buy some cigarettes.

This is all either misinformation or we are in front of some massive diplomatic c.ockup.

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Last time there was talk about this, I heard the Georgians were pissed about Cargo airplanes flying weapons over Georgia and not being able to do anything about it. I doubt they go around the Caspian through iran for this.