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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Liksa is a traitor, a thief and oligarch and should have been killed at least in 1994. Instead he is protected.





    "Besides, as a former commander, as a person who has gone through the furnace of war, as a former member of parliament, as a citizen who cares, I call on the authorities to keep in mind that Liska’s appearance in Karabakh should not be a warrant for him to continue to commit offenses in the future, to repent in front of the Armenian people, and not to come to Karabakh with General Manvel to make selfies and claim to 80% of the victory as they did last time, they should do real work instead. We must put everything in their right place. I want the authorities to learn a lesson that people, forgetting about injustice, stand up to save the nation, and everyone from president to minister must care about the army. If they say our weapons are made in the 1980s, they should not ride cars of 2015-2016, their cars can be from the 1980s but the weapons should be modern, this is a matter of our national security. And if I don’t speak up, others will not do. General Manvel or pop stars shouldn’t come to make a selfie in Artsakh, we need real work and real help. Our nation cannot win the war and support the fellows who have usurped the government at the same time.


    Instead of making selfies in Artsakh, Liska should come and try to restore the posts that we lost in Horadiz because he had fled, and not make selfies and get a new mandate to commit crimes. Serzh Sargsyan should mind these things if he wants to remain president. Can you see that people are ahead of the government, instead of the government recruiting people and bringing them to the battlefield people volunteer, what else do you ask of people? If Serzh Sargsyan does not provide adequate governance, he must leave quietly. Today the president, the minister of defense Seiran Ohanyan must lend a hand. I am not saying everything because now, considering the situation, but all this is enough to know that I can say a lot of things. Seiran Ohanyan must lend a hand because if war starts, he can prevent it with our help. He must lend a hand and listen to our recommendations. And our recommendations are many and so useful that we would not without them. Let this be something like an open letter. Everyone must have their place. The society has become healthier on these days, and I don’t want the spongers and fake generals again get a mandate for further crimes"
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
      It is confusing but there is both a town and village named Horadiz. The town is a major rail junction on the border with Iran. It changed hands a couple of times during the war but has been under Azeri control since April 1994.
      Let it be under their control. It is useless for now, since it connects to baku one way to horadiz is the last stop. The only railway to Nakhichevan is from Tabriz that goes through Julfa. Souther Armenia block it for 35KM now with NKR it is blocked for 115KM.

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        Originally posted by Joseph View Post
        Those green troops were doomed as soon as he took "command".
        Sagh Artsakhe kidi.
        Gorise ir shnorhiv avel zoh a dvel grvitz hedo, kan polor Kashataghi azadakrman jamanag, talanelutz....

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          Originally posted by Azad View Post
          Let it be under their control. It is useless for now, since it connects to baku one way to horadiz is the last stop. The only railway to Nakhichevan is from Tabriz that goes through Julfa. Souther Armenia block it for 35KM now with NKR it is blocked for 115KM.
          Etbes tchi.
          Ter irantz gabe Nakhitchevani hed etdeghov a antznum.
          Astarayi vra knatzki gabe rusnere sarkum yen, paytz ter tchi brdzel.
          Ess dari bidi lini, paytz ter vor votch.
          Yete konkred essor hed vertzeneyink et kayarane, vor himi sarkel en kaghak (et arel en 94 itz vertch, vorbess miyag hoghagdor vor hed e vertzerel haydare), shad medz praval ge lini irantz hamar.
          Ham dghen haydari tapnin dvadz ge lini, ham el irantz gabe lav ge khankarvi.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
              They transported the train material on tracks, and rolled on iranian side to Vortashad (aka-ordupat) or Jugha,
              In soviet times, only 3 crossings between TransKavkaz and Iran.
              Astara/Horadiz/Jugha.

              Meghri had no bridge, at worst phase of war, military bringe was installed in emergency.
              Tranitz patzi, amenitz strategiakane Horadizum ga platina Araksi vra. Hedeven el mitchin medzutyan lij e.
              Et lidje iranov zenk e, ay et lidji vra barsignere zork eyin mdtzerel yerp vertzenum eyink, vor hangardz tchdrakatzenenk....
              Et platinan ankhordageli gamurtch a, lidje iranov zenk, teguz tjvar drakatzeneyink, barsigneri hed haraperutyunnere tchpjatzenelu hamar....., paytz tranitz el garevor, et lidje sarkadz a canalnerov tchure Araksitz, tebi Paylakani (Beylakan/Jdanovsk) tashdavayrere ughelu hamar.
              Yete et bahadz lineyink, essor pavaganin harusd Paylagani yev Aghtchkaperti (Aghtchapeti) chrtchannere anapat ge lineyin....

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                Etbes tchi.
                Ter irantz gabe Nakhitchevani hed etdeghov a antznum.
                Astarayi vra knatzki gabe rusnere sarkum yen, paytz ter tchi brdzel.
                Vestahem toun aveli lav gidess. I was looking at the "black" train tracks removed or blocked according to the attached map.

                See map.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  I would love for this to be confirmed.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                      I would love for this to be confirmed.
                      Unfortunately, we will never know. Most likely the best measurement was the sultan's wife meeting with the dead azeri soldiers' mothers. It looked like around 700 of them.

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