Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Vrej1915]

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Vestahem toun aveli lav gidess. I was looking at the "black" train tracks removed or blocked according to the attached map.

See map.

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Knatzk tchi knum Horadizitz Tchugha.
Et kidze himi tchga. Et sovedi vakhd a yeghel. Liskanere mitchev Kapani u Meghru relseren e dzakhel, dentz vor et kidze miyayn kardezi vra ga.
Paytz irank et pernere tap en dalis Horadzum, gam teguz mekenanerov priyamo Bakvitz kalis, Horadizum (arantz rasdamoshka), anznum transit barsgagan ap, Araksen i ver kshum tebi Nakhitchevan.
Yete Horadize tchlini, sdibvadz Astarayov bidi kshen, kani rusnere relsere tchen ktzel Kaspitz dzovi apim, Talishsdanum.
Te mi had hasvi, intch a sdadzvum.
Himi transit en anum, ayt tebkum tjvar barsignere entunen vor arantz rasdamoshki, Atarayitz, Tavrizov frran tebi Djugha....
Banzine ejan e hasgatzank, paytz barsigneri tzere grage gengnen, meg el mi sutka hasdad ge gorsntzenen....

[Zeytun]

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A nice reminder of our Nuclear bomb:

Within the context of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, scholars and politicians have speculated the possibility of the Mingachevir reservoir being used as a military target by Armenian forces in case of another war. Russian ethnographer Sergey Arutyunov stated in a 2010 interview:

I will not disclose a military secret—this has been openly admitted in Armenia's general staff—that Armenian or NKR artillery batteries, stationed at the top of Karabakh mountains, are 40 kilometers away from the Mingachevir reservoir. One strike and central Azerbaijan will turn into a sea. [ Wikipedia]

From a Hetq Article published on the 16th of August 2010.

http://hetq.am/arm/news/46664/mi-hamazark-ev-kentronakan-adrbejany-tsov-kdarna.html

Actual distance from Talish to the dam is around 52km

[HyeSocialist]

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There is a truth to that. Armenia is not the worst country in terms of corruption, etc but it has an corrupt oligarchy the cheats the country, leaders that abet them, a small economy, somewhat volatile political landscape, ineffective opposition etc..... but despite all that, Armenians will fight for each other. They did so not because of their leaders (whether it was LTP or now with Sargysyan) but in spite of them. They do so because Armenians/Armenia/NKR is fighting for its very survival and Armenians will never let themselves be slaughtered again. Armenians are tough, resilient, creative, and I believe here to stay. Armenians have lost too much for centuries and will not give anymore. This is not a dream but reality.

By any chance did you get to read the article? I think this Azeri assault on Artsakh is awakening once again the true Armenian people who are looking to make their home a better place. The azergays might have just re Kickstarted the anti corruption movement in Armenia. The sacking of 3 military pigs, who are parasites among us, proves that serjik might indeed be seeing the light himself.

I hate to politicize this, but this is real. If our people in Armenia and the diaspora can do more to protect our culture than the Armenian state, then it is evident some house cleaning is needed.

6 million of us in the diaspora. $100 from each of us a year for 5 years can upgrade Armenia in a way that can put us on the trajectory for a stronger homeland. As we fight the Azeris externally, we should fight the domestic enemies internally.

The days of the Soviet generals and their dachas in the country side are over. No longer to continue that legacy. We need engineers, doctors, soldiers, and statesmen. Not parasites!

[HyeSocialist]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

A nice reminder of our Nuclear bomb:

Within the context of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, scholars and politicians have speculated the possibility of the Mingachevir reservoir being used as a military target by Armenian forces in case of another war. Russian ethnographer Sergey Arutyunov stated in a 2010 interview:

I will not disclose a military secret—this has been openly admitted in Armenia's general staff—that Armenian or NKR artillery batteries, stationed at the top of Karabakh mountains, are 40 kilometers away from the Mingachevir reservoir. One strike and central Azerbaijan will turn into a sea. [ Wikipedia]

From a Hetq Article published on the 16th of August 2010.

http://hetq.am/arm/news/46664/mi-hamazark-ev-kentronakan-adrbejany-tsov-kdarna.html

Actual distance from Talish to the dam is around 52km

That would be a war crime. We are above that. As a last resort if they bomb Artsakh homes or armenia, but never offensively.

[Azad]

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Knatzk tchi knum Horadizitz Tchugha.
Et kidze himi tchga. Et sovedi vakhd a yeghel. Liskanere mitchev Kapani u Meghru relseren e dzakhel, dentz vor et kidze miyayn kardezi vra ga.
Paytz irank et pernere tap en dalis Horadzum, gam teguz mekenanerov priyamo Bakvitz kalis, Horadizum (arantz rasdamoshka), anznum transit barsgagan ap, Araksen i ver kshum tebi Nakhitchevan.
Yete Horadize tchlini, sdibvadz Astarayov bidi kshen, kani rusnere relsere tchen ktzel Kaspitz dzovi apim, Talishsdanum.
Te mi had hasvi, intch a sdadzvum.
Himi transit en anum, ayt tebkum tjvar barsignere entunen vor arantz rasdamoshki, Atarayitz, Tavrizov frran tebi Djugha....
Banzine ejan e hasgatzank, paytz barsigneri tzere grage gengnen, meg el mi sutka hasdad ge gorsntzenen....

It is impossible to build a train track before and after the Iranian city of Nordooz. They need a 5Km of tunnels in the mountains. Across from Araksashen is 2Km of impossible terrain. 1KM by the lake. They will have to dig around 8Km in the mountains plus the regular 150KM tracks in rough terrains. Good luck!

[Azad]

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That would be a war crime.

It seams turkey is enjoying its benefits of "war crimes" so is the US with its "Nuclear bombs" on Japan. We are not above that! We will do what it will take to survive. A reminder, we are living on 1/10 of our original territories and lost millions of our people. Did you mention "War crimes?" We want to live in peace with perpetual closed borders. Can they?

[Joseph]

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By any chance did you get to read the article? I think this Azeri assault on Artsakh is awakening once again the true Armenian people who are looking to make their home a better place. The azergays might have just re Kickstarted the anti corruption movement in Armenia. The sacking of 3 military pigs, who are parasites among us, proves that serjik might indeed be seeing the light himself.

I hate to politicize this, but this is real. If our people in Armenia and the diaspora can do more to protect our culture than the Armenian state, then it is evident some house cleaning is needed.

6 million of us in the diaspora. $100 from each of us a year for 5 years can upgrade Armenia in a way that can put us on the trajectory for a stronger homeland. As we fight the Azeris externally, we should fight the domestic enemies internally.

The days of the Soviet generals and their dachas in the country side are over. No longer to continue that legacy. We need engineers, doctors, soldiers, and statesmen. Not parasites!

I agree with you. After the Azeris are dealt with their will be a reckoning. The oligarchs and corrupt officials are as much the enemy as the Turks/Azeris. Perhaps in the early years of independence, one or two of the oligarchs had a purpose (getting much needed goods, material, equipment and/or to facilitate relations with needed allies in Moscow such as Pavel Grachev) but those days are over and their days are numbered.

[Joseph]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

It seams turkey is enjoying its benefits of "war crimes" so is the US with its "Nuclear bombs" on Japan. We are not above that! We will do what it will take to survive. A reminder, we are living on 1/10 of our original territories and lost millions of our people. Did you mention "War crimes?" We want to live in peace with perpetual closed borders. Can they?

Hitting the damn is reserved if the Azeris hit Stepanakert. If the Azeris escalate this, there will be a myriad of good and easy targets.

[Vrej1915]

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It is impossible to build a train track before and after the Iranian city of Nordooz. They need a 5Km of tunnels in the mountains. Across from Araksashen is 2Km of impossible terrain. 1KM by the lake. They will have to dig around 8Km in the mountains plus the regular 150KM tracks in rough terrains. Good luck!

There is no such plan.
They are not linking Horadiz to Votashad or Jugha, via Iranian territory.
That's a mega project, Iran would not discuss it anyway.

The link is in Talishostan. Linking Azari and Iranian Talishostans, Lenkoran-Astara, along caspian shore.

[HyeSocialist]

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[QUOTE=Azad;372190]It seams turkey is enjoying its benefits of "war crimes" so is the US with its "Nuclear bombs" on Japan. We are not above that! We will do what it will take to survive. A reminder, we are living on 1/10 of our original territories and lost millions of our people. Did you mention "War crimes?" We want to live in peace with perpetual closed borders. Can they?[/QUOTE

As a people who have suffered genocide, I think we should be examplary in preventing it. Look how people treat Israel today. A people suffered hollovsust only to institute concentration camps. We should not have the same parallel drawn on us. We can win them militarily, economically, politically. But bombing homes should be out of the question. Just my two cents