Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Federate]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Armenia is currently exporting one of those "toy" drones at the expo to Singapore. There is a customer for everything.

[armnuke]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

You guys like it or not, gun carving is a part of armament field and as such commands international respect.
Right now the center is Italy, where just apprenticeship school will cost the students upwards of $20000. There are not many masters around in the world. Looking at the show gunnpicture I can tell we've got high class masters.
If nothing at all, this will create high pay and niche jobs for Armenia.
You should not look at everything directly and simply trench value. This gun customizing can keep shops that also do other tactical stuff financed and functioning.
I am looking at that gold plated pistols.
World class job. Abren...
This will bring high dollars from rich around the world. And we know what else is Aspar Arms doing.

If it does bring in money then fine, it just worries me that we're allocating resources to something that would hinder something else.

[Hakob]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I like what I see, basically after 7000 rounds Armenian made barrel still manage a 30 mm grouping.
Nice

[Azad]

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You guys like it or not, gun carving is a part of armament field and as such commands international respect.
Right now the center is Italy, where just apprenticeship school will cost the students upwards of $20000. There are not many masters around in the world. Looking at the show gunnpicture I can tell we've got high class masters.
If nothing at all, this will create high pay and niche jobs for Armenia.
You should not look at everything directly and simply trench value. This gun customizing can keep shops that also do other tactical stuff financed and functioning.
I am looking at that gold plated pistols.
World class job. Abren...
This will bring high dollars from rich around the world. And we know what else is Aspar Arms doing.

You are correct it will bring jobs and we need that. For a personal taste when I see them I think of someone like this

http://static.vibe.com/files/article_images/article-2257209-16C051F1000005DC-920_634x822-compressed.jpeg

[Azad]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Armenia is currently exporting one of those "toy" drones at the expo to Singapore. There is a customer for everything.

I remember reading about it. I cannot think anyone wanting to buy this small uneven fiberglass toy for any reason. Unless it can fly around the world on one charge?

[Hakob]

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I remember reading about it. I cannot think anyone wanting to buy this small uneven fiberglass toy for any reason. Unless it can fly around the world on one charge?

Maybe we are missing something here. In one of the clips and MOD interviews there was a talk of every one of our posts having a drone that can be sent out to investigate around for enemy activity any time. I have seen the videos that those wedding camera drones send. Pretty good for immediate area surveillance.
Those cost around $2-4000 market.
Imagine our guys assemble it for fiew hundred dollars instead and our MOD provides them for every post that has a guy sanding it on platoon level.
Real benefit ha? Imagine enemy snipers or subversives having those buzzing overhead. Being pinpointed and marked quickly behind bushes or boulders.
Israeli or US drones that you dream of, are made for different purposes and have very heavy price tags. They are made for big bucks. You cannot send a suicide drone all over if you're not at war. Big survailence drones are operated from command centers, not from every bunker. By the time you call them on top of you, that infiltrator may be gone or situation changed.

But what I see in our show is very simple that any guy that has played Nintendo can operate, and can be send out without communication from above on a platoon level. And it will not make nights news if it is lost or shot down.
Lost? No problem, here is another sitting in bunker. Get it out and see what was that noise about.

I think those small and cheap looking drones are exactly what our guts need. And a lot of them

[Federate]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Maybe we are missing something here. In one of the clips and MOD interviews there was a talk of every one of our posts having a drone that can be sent out to investigate around for enemy activity any time. I have seen the videos that those wedding camera drones send. Pretty good for immediate area surveillance.
Those cost around $2-4000 market.
Imagine our guys assemble it for fiew hundred dollars instead and our MOD provides them for every post that has a guy sanding it on platoon level.
Real benefit ha? Imagine enemy snipers or subversives having those buzzing overhead. Being pinpointed and marked quickly behind bushes or boulders.
Israeli or US drones that you dream of, are made for different purposes and have very heavy price tags. They are made for big bucks. You cannot send a suicide drone all over if you're not at war. Big survailence drones are operated from command centers, not from every bunker. By the time you call them on top of you, that infiltrator may be gone or situation changed.

But what I see in our show is very simple that any guy that has played Nintendo can operate, and can be send out without communication from above on a platoon level. And it will not make nights news if it is lost or shot down.
Lost? No problem, here is another sitting in bunker. Get it out and see what was that noise about.

I think those small and cheap looking drones are exactly what our guts need. And a lot of them

In Syria and Iraq wars, those small cheap "toy" drones are making significant differences on the battlefield in exactly the way you describe them. And if they're shot down, nobody cares because there's another one ready to be flown.

[ASALA2116]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

In Syria and Iraq wars, those small cheap "toy" drones are making significant differences on the battlefield in exactly the way you describe them. And if they're shot down, nobody cares because there's another one ready to be flown.

You cannot even compare situations. They are so different it's not even funny. I understand what you guys are saying but toy drones are what they are , " Toys". In a battlefield situation are you willing to risk your boys lives for a few dollars?
We should be thinking of how to minimize detection instead of building so many of these toys that we will always have another. Losing a drone is an embarrassment. We don't want to be target practice.

[Artashes]

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You cannot even compare situations. They are so different it's not even funny. I understand what you guys are saying but toy drones are what they are , " Toys". In a battlefield situation are you willing to risk your boys lives for a few dollars?
We should be thinking of how to minimize detection instead of building so many of these toys that we will always have another. Losing a drone is an embarrassment. We don't want to be target practice.

(1) are you willing to risk your (our) boys lives for a few dollars?
(2) we should be thinking ...
(3) losing a drone is an embarrassment.
(4) we don't want to be target practice.
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(1) it is an assumption (your opinion) that we are "risking" our soldiers lives by utalizing the reasoning Hakob and others have expressed. In fact the ideas put forth by Hakob and other members is the exact opposite of endangering our troops, i.e.; to help their security and to enhance their effectiveness. Also the enormous and ludicrous cost of west's equipment can be overcome by creative thinking as Azad and Hacob have pointed out.
(2) sorry but I don't gaf about embarrassment, I'm looking for accomplishment in real time. Throw toys at them by the dozens as long as you get the target acquisition info or situational awareness needed in the timeframe needed.
-- sorry (2) reply is really reply to (3) -- anyway, reply to 2 is ... That's your opinion.
(4) "We" aren't target practice, cheap toys are and can easily be replaced with no tears shed. The real question is can we be effective. Hakob/Azad are suggesting yes we can and we can without wasting money n western/yahoody glitz.
We all have our opinions, and I personally like the ideas the other members have put forth. We may not have a lot of $$$, but we have brains. I think it's possible to win the battle with a good idea when a million $$$ can't pull it off.

[burjuin]

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