Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[ZORAVAR]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Further problems.

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Soldiers arrested for using force against Azeri soldier Rafig Hasanov before he was captured

Gazakh Region Military Court passed a judgment on arresting Maharramov Ilgar Gabil and Valiyev Ramin Adil, the soldiers, who had used force against Azerbaijani soldier Rafig Hasanov before he was captured by Armenians, the captured soldier’s parents told APA’s Karabakh bureau.

The letter sent to the soldier’s parents by Azerbaijan Military Prosecutor’s Office says that the above-mentioned soldiers faced charges under article 332.2.1 (infringement of authorized rules on mutual relation between military men at absence of subordination relations) of the Criminal Code.

/APA/

http://www.today.az/news/society/48975.html

[jgk3]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Perhaps they'd be wise to shift their budget on TAVORs to better healthcare and food.

[ZORAVAR]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

...and they are having problems with Daghestanis.
More casualties.
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Have fights in Azerbaijan's north with militants from Dagestan caused casualties from both sides?

The central office of the Interior troops of Azerbaijan's Interior Ministry refuted information about holding an operation on the northern borders, which resulted in losses among military men.

"Interior troops do not hold any operations on the northern border, therefore, the information about their participation in any fights with militants on the border with Dagestan and even casualties do not conform the reality", said the press service for the Interior Troops.

It should be reminded that the Zerkalo newspaper spoke of conduction of a special operation against religious extremists, once fighting in Chechnya and Dagestan. The group includes Chechen - Afghans and local residents. Though not large, the group demonstrates desperate resistance. Militants, experienced in military actions in mountains, escape from persecution", says the newspaper.

"Fights cause casualties to both sides.

The law enforcement bodies of Azerbaijan are closely contacting the due structures of Russia to avert passage of militants to Dagestan", notes the newspaper.

Meanwhile, the spokesman for Interior Troops called this information "completely false". He confirmed that some divisions of interior troops are deployed in country's north but only for participation in planned trainings.

"The unhealthy stir around any movement of the interior troops is surprising. These are just trainings held by the plan, adopted by the supreme command for this year", said the spokesman.

He noted that information about any incident with participation of the Interior Troops of Azerbaijan would have been received by the central office, yet no emergency situation have been fixed in this region so far.

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Despite official statements, special operations are held against militants in country's north, reports Turan agency with reference to well-informed sources, reports Zerkalo newspaper.

Thus, measures are taken for neutralization of militants, coming from Dagestan in the Gusar woods. This implies religious extremists, once fighting in Chechnya and Dagestan. The group includes Chechen - Afghans and local residents. Though not large, the group demonstrates desperate resistance. Militants, experienced in military actions in mountains, escape from persecution.

The operation mostly involves the internal troops of Azerbaijan. At the same time, experienced militants are also involved.

Fights cause casualties to both sides.

The law enforcement bodies of Azerbaijan are closely contacting the due structures of Russia to avert passage of militants to Dagestan.

It should be reminded that the press service of the armed forces on November 11 refuted statements of mass media about special operations in Guba and Gusar regions of the country. By the same source, next trainings are held in the said zone.

At the same time, in the said zone the law enforcement bodies held a series of operations to neutralize armed groups of radical Islamists.

Thus, on September 8 the National Security Ministry informed about neutralization of a group of terrorists in Gusary. One of the "Forest Brothers" leaders Ilgar Mollachiyev was killed in early September in Dagestan during an operation against militants.

The law enforcement bodies stated the involvement of the Forest Brothers group to an explosion in the Abu Bakr in Baku August 17, which caused death to 3 people and injured another 15.

"Zerkalo"

http://www.today.az/news/society/48951.html

[jgk3]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

that's interesting.

[ZORAVAR]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Perhaps they'd be wise to shift their budget on TAVORs to better healthcare and food.

With oil at less than $60 per barrel, there will not be much of a budget...

By the way, this is also interesting:
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State Oil Fund of Azerbaijan loses $1 bln due to August events in Georgia this year

According to the estimates of the State Oil Fund of Azerbaijan, SOFAR lost $1 bln due to the armed conflict between Georgia and Russia in August of this year, reports the press service of SOFAR.

Notably, as of September of this year the SOFAR assets made AZN 8,320,000 ($10,216,000).

/Day.Az/

http://www.today.az/news/business/48971.html

[Federate]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Enter the Lezgin and Talysh factors

Our secret service should take advantage of the fact that less than 85% of "azeris" are ethnic "azerbaboons". There are two other groups that seek independence and they are the Lezgins and the Talysh. These two peoples, who live at the fake republic's northern and southern extremities respectively have tried to become independent in the past only to be violently surpressed.

Lezgins

The Lezgin have been discriminated by the baboons and there is an attempt at mass azerification of their people. The baboons shrink their population numbers in censuses and everything.

They are a 95% majority in the province of Qusar and have strong minorities in the adjacent provinces. They have an independence movement called Sadval. From my conversations with Lezgins, they are sympathetic to the Artsakh cause. But what's important to note about the Lezgin population distribution is that the province of Qusar shares a border with none other than... bingo, you guessed it, Russia! And the situation is like North Ossetia/South Ossetia where the majority of Lezgins live in adjacent Dagestan in Russia. Are you thinking what i'm imagining? One wrong move baboons that's all we want.

And this stuff has been discussed before. Russia and the baboons have spat over the Lezgin issue a number of times, i've read them in news articles.


Talysh

The Talysh have been more successful at independence stake than the Lezgins. They once had their own, albeit short-lived, autonomous republic in azerbaboonjan before they were threatened with genocide and gave in to the baboons. The Talysh incidentally share a border with Iran, their ethnic cousins

Talysh-Mughan Autonomous Republic

[jgk3]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Hmmm, so would you say these recent events in Azerbaijan are just the logical result of the strain on their budget coupled with the presence of Moscow as the only door for Azerbaijan to knock on after what happened in August? Or is this small number of incidences just a coincidence?

I hear they already had a problem with soldier morale to begin with, maybe these conditions have made it worse?

[jgk3]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Enter the Lezgin and Talysh factors

Our secret service should take advantage of the fact that less than 85% of "azeris" are ethnic "azerbaboons". There are two other groups that seek independence and they are the Lezgins and the Talysh. These two peoples, who live at the fake republic's northern and southern extremities respectively have tried to become independent in the past only to be violently surpressed.

Lezgins

The Lezgin have been discriminated by the baboons and there is an attempt at mass azerification of their people. The baboons shrink their population numbers in censuses and everything.

They are a 95% majority in the province of Qusar and have strong minorities in the adjacent provinces. They have an independence movement called Sadval. From my conversations with Lezgins, they are sympathetic to the Artsakh cause. But what's important to note about the Lezgin population distribution is that the province of Qusar shares a border with none other than... bingo, you guessed it, Russia! And the situation is like North Ossetia/South Ossetia where the majority of Lezgins live in adjacent Dagestan in Russia. Are you thinking what i'm imagining? One wrong move baboons that's all we want.

And this stuff has been discussed before. Russia and the baboons have spat over the Lezgin issue a number of times, i've read them in news articles.


Talysh

The Talysh have been more successful at independence stake than the Lezgins. They once had their own, albeit short-lived, autonomous republic in azerbaboonjan before they were threatened with genocide and gave in to the baboons. The Talysh incidentally share a border with Iran, their ethnic cousins

Talysh-Mughan Autonomous Republic

Thanks for the info, it is interesting to note how Azerbaijan has plenty to lose if they make the wrong moves against Moscow.

Though calling them baboons in an informative and well structured post to me hinders the seriousness of the discussion. Please refer to them as Zoravar does with a simple "Azeri or Azerbaijan".

[Armanen]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

When one sees sh*t on the ground they call it sh*t.

Plus this forum, like most, is a far cry from being an academic forum.


Good posts Federate and Zoravar!

[jgk3]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Hmm, we did allow Hellektor to express himself about Azerbaijan the way he did in his serious thread about the history of Azerbaijan, though there were limits.