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Ս-400 համակարգերը կտեղակայվեն Թուրքիայի «Աքընջը» ռազմաբազայում. Yeni Şafak
Posted on Սեպտեմբեր 21, 2017 by Սոնա Սուքիասյան | Leave a comment
Ս-400 զենիթահրթիռային համակարգերի վաճառքի հարցով Թուրքիայի և Ռուսաստանի միջև բանակցությունների ընթացքում որոշվել է համակարգերը տեղակայել Թուրքիայի ՌՕՈւ՝ Անկարայի մոտակայքում գտնվող «Աքընջը» ավիաբազայում: Այս մասին օգոստոսի 20-ին հայտնել է թուրքական իշխանամետ Yeni Şafak պարբերականի կայքը:
Ռուսաստանյան Ս-400 «Տրիումֆ» ՀՕՊ զենիթահրթիռային համակարգ
Ըստ աղբյուրի՝ այդ նպատակով ավիաբազայի տարածքում կստեղծվի համակարգերի տեխնիկական սպասարկման և կայանման համար նախատեսված երկու շինություն:
Նույն օրը Թուրքիայի նախագահ Ռեջեփ Թայիփ Էրդողանը հայտարարել է, որ սեպտեմբերի 28-ին Թուրքիա այցի ընթացքում Ռուսաստանի նախագահ Վլադիմիր Պուտինի հետ քննարկելու են նաև Ս-400 համակարգերի վաճառքին վերաբերող հարցեր: Փոխանցում է թուրքական «Հյուրիեթ» պարբերականի կայքը:
Սեպտեմբերի 12-ին Էրդողանը հայտարարել է, որ որքանով ինքը տեղյակ է Թուրքիան արդեն կանխավճար է տվել Ռուսաստանին Ս-400 համակարգերի ձեռքբերման համար: Նույն օրը Ռուսաստանի նախագահի ռազմատեխնիկական հարցերով խորհրդական Վլադիմիր Կոժինը հայտարարել էր, որ Ս-400-ների համար պայմանագիրը ստորագրվել է, պատրաստվում են դրա իրականացմանը:
Ամերիկյան «Բլումբերգ» գործակալության տվյալներով՝ Թուրքիան համաձայնվել է Ռուսաստանին վճարել 2,5 միլիարդ դոլար՝ Ս-400 համակարգերի 4 դիվիզիոն ստանալու համար:
Թուրքիան և Ռուսաստանը Ս-400 համակարգերի վաճառքի համար բանակցում են դեռևս 2016-ի հոկտեմբերից: Սակայն նույնիսկ պայմանագրի ստորագրման դեպքում, չի բացառվում, որ ամերիկյան կողմից կամ ՆԱՏՕ-ի անդամ այլ երկրներից ավելի շահավետ առաջարկ ստանալու դեպքում, Թուրքիան հրաժարվի ռուսաստանյան արտադրության զենիթահրթիռային համակարգերից:
Հիշեցնենք, որ «Աքընջը» ռազմաբազան համարվում է Թուրքիայում 2016-ի ռազմական հեղաշրջման փորձի կազմակերպման «հրամանատարական կենտրոնը»: Հեղաշրջման փորձից հետո ավիաբազայից հանվել են ավիացիոն միջոցները, զինտեխնիկան, ավիաբազայում ծառայող մի շարք զինծառայողներ ձերբկալված են:
Դեռևս 2016-ի հուլիսի 29-ին Թուրքիայի վարչապետ Բինալի Յըլդըրըմը հայտարարել էր, որ փակվելու է Թուրքիայի Աքընջը ավիաբազան և այն բոլոր զորանոցները, որտեղից դուրս են եկել տանկերն, ուղղաթիռներն ու կործանիչները հեղաշրջման փորձի ժամանակ:
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Russian MiG-29 at the parade on the Independence Day of Armenia. 09/21/2016
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What's the chance that we get S-400 too ? Or at least the Russians in Armenia and we could get whatever is being replaced ?
I allways tought Armenia ( or Russian base in Armenia ) didn't get S-400 because it's a threat to NATO. But since it's apparently ok to have Iskander on a NATO border , and Turkey buying S-400 too why can't we get it ? We are left with old and too slow S300.
Would be a nice way to cancel all recent Azerbaijani air-force upgrades.
Would be nice too if we could buy some more and modern artillery. What Azerbaijan brought would have been excellent on our side , as a defending army.
Also , have we ever seen the Verba and Igla-S manpads that were bought last year ?
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Originally posted by haydavid View PostWhat's the chance that we get S-400 too ? Or at least the Russians in Armenia and we could get whatever is being replaced ?
I allways tought Armenia ( or Russian base in Armenia ) didn't get S-400 because it's a threat to NATO. But since it's apparently ok to have Iskander on a NATO border , and Turkey buying S-400 too why can't we get it ? We are left with old and too slow S300.
Would be a nice way to cancel all recent Azerbaijani air-force upgrades.
Would be nice too if we could buy some more and modern artillery. What Azerbaijan brought would have been excellent on our side , as a defending army.
Also , have we ever seen the Verba and Igla-S manpads that were bought last year ?
Coming back to topic of air defense, Azerbaijan possesses no aircraft or helicopters that can't be downed with our current air defense. There is an unofficial no-fly zone over both sides of this conflict. The Azeris tried to fly a modernized in Ukraine helicopter during the 4 day war and were shot down immediately.
Igla-S has been seen multiple times, even the before the latest batch as burjuin pointed out. Verba is very new acquisition per our MoD so maybe in the coming months we will see it.Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!
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Originally posted by Federate View Post
Coming back to topic of air defense, Azerbaijan possesses no aircraft or helicopters that can't be downed with our current air defense.
turkey needs it for fear that the West will give it "Democracy" from the air, as they did to Iraq, Syria, Libya.
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