Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[burjuin]

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Armenian Army:

[ArmeniaR1]

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Defense Army: Karabakh soldiers don't shoot civilians
June 4, 2011 - 10:59 AMT

PanARMENIAN.Net - The situation at the line of contact between Nagorno Karabakh and Azerbaijani armed forces remains tense.

The Azerbaijani side violated the ceasefire 230 times during the period of May 29 – June 4, said the press office of the NKR Defense Army.

“After the Presidents of the OSCE Minsk Group co-chair countries adopted their statement in Deauville to once again rule out the use of force as a conflict resolution means, Azerbaijan’s ceasefire violations have become more fierce. Baku launched a propaganda campaign aiming to accuse the Armenian side of provocative acts,” press office head, colonel Senor Hasratyan said. “Specifically, on June 3 Azeri media circulated information that as result of Armenian firing civilian Elmar Piriyev was allegedly killed.”

“We reiterate that Karabakh army strictly observes the ceasefire along the entire contact line and did not fire either upon military positions or civilians,” col. Hasratyan said.

He also informed that 400 shots were fired in the direction of NKR positions on June 3.

[Odysseus]

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i ment some new pictures, sorrry i wasnt specific. Can anybody post pictures of it like on display or something like the gun just laying there? i need reference material for a project my friends and i are working on.

[burjuin]

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Armenian Air force:

[ArmeniaR1]

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Armenian Air force:

Nice shot, is this larger available?

[Mos]

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great news:

Russian General: We Will Intervene to Protect Armenia
June 6, 2011 - 1:56pm, by Joshua Kucera
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A few weeks ago there was some back and forth between Armenians and Azerbaijanis about whether Russia would come to Armenia's defense in the case of a war over Nagorno Karabakh. Well, now a top Russian general has weighed in, and he sounds pretty certain that Russia would get involved. General Andrei Tretyak, the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the Defense Ministry, discussed the Russian military's future plans with some analysts, and this is from Dmitry Gorenburg's account:

In a discussion on the situation in Karabakh, General Tretyak agreed with a participant’s assessment that the possibility of conflict in that region is high, but argued that it is gradually decreasing as a result of Russian efforts to reduce tension in the region. He disagreed with the suggestion that Russia’s relationship with Armenia is eroding and made clear that Russia will carry out its promises to that country. No one should see Russia’s refusal to intervene in Kyrgyzstan last summer as a precedent for Karabakh, as that was a very different situation.

Hmm, that can't make too many folks in Baku feel too confident. Tretyak also weighed in on Central Asia, and suggested that the Collective Security Treaty Organization could help fill the security vacuum that will be created by the U.S. leaving Afghanistan. And he seems to acknowledge that the CSTO kind of dropped the ball on Kyrgyzstan last year, when it did nothing to stop the pogroms that took place there in what many saw as the first big test of the collective security group:

He also felt that what he saw as the inevitable US withdrawal from the region will have a negative effect on stability.

In this context, the CSTO may come to play a more important role in the region. General Tretyak pointed out that CSTO reforms are continuing. The major Russian military exercises in the summer and early fall will include CSTO states. The Russian military has looked at the issues that arose in conjunction with the Kyrgyzstan crisis and know how to act if a similar situation arises in the future; according to General Tretyak, there are no disagreements on this with Russia’s CSTO partners. The general further noted that the forces assigned to the CSTO are the best prepared of Russia’s forces, because Russia wants to increase the organization’s military effectiveness. General Tretyak reiterated the Russian position that it would like NATO to recognize the legitimacy of the CSTO and establish cooperation with it.

This seems to be a pointed message that the CSTO is learning from its mistakes in Kyrgyzstan -- and that those who expect it to stand aside in the future should think again.

[Artsakh]

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great news:

Do you mind posting the source along with the news, appereciate it!

[Mos]

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Do you mind posting the source along with the news, appereciate it!

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/63627

http://russiamil.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/valdai-club-4-a-conversation-with-general-tretyak/

[londontsi]

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This is quite interesting.

The more Azerbaijan feels insecure and prone to failure in case of war the less likelihood of war.

Armenia, in order to discourage war, always reminded the penalty in such an event which was more territory lost by Azerbaijan.
This threat was real, intended and achievable.

One has also to wonder what does this statement mean in case Azerbaijan ignores the warnings and initiates a war and CSTO/Russia does get involved.

Would Armenia be able to retaliate by carrying out its threats.
Or simply get help to push back any hostile attempt to take Karabagh resulting in loss of men and material with no "compensation" for its losses.

Or CSTO/Russia help Armenia control more territory as a bargaining chip or otherwise.

[Mos]

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This is quite interesting.

The more Azerbaijan feels insecure and prone to failure in case of war the less likelihood of war.

Armenia, in order to discourage war, always reminded the penalty in such an event which was more territory lost by Azerbaijan.
This threat was real, intended and achievable.

One has also to wonder what does this statement mean in case Azerbaijan ignores the warnings and initiates a war and CSTO/Russia does get involved.

Would Armenia be able to retaliate by carrying out its threats.
Or simply get help to push back any hostile attempt to take Karabagh resulting in loss of men and material with no "compensation" for its losses.

Or CSTO/Russia help Armenia control more territory as a bargaining chip or otherwise.

Well isn't there a small portion of Karabakh under Azeri control? We would definitely take that, and we would target their pipelines for sure as that's their lifeline. But all after their failed attempt to take over which would take sometime to withstand. We also have Iran from the South which will be definitely be rooting for an Azeri defeat, so Azerbaijan would pretty much be corned if you ask me. And not only that, they would be heavily condemned for attacking by everybody (as they will be violating a fundamental principle that the world community has accepted regarding Karabakh). Investors would flee Azerbaijan and their oil production would slow down, they would be seen as an aggressor nation who talked big but fell big. So as you see, Az. is in a tight corner, they talk out of their a*s saying they will take over Karabakh, when in fact they are just trying to cover the sad reality that they are cornered diplomatically and militarily.