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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Wow the last video shows the azeris crying,
    that made my day, thanks

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Icy View Post
      Wow the last video shows the azeris crying,
      that made my day, thanks
      no problem. if u read the comments azeris claim those r Armenians. Shows u how azeris dont like to look at facts like the fact Armenia had less men, less artillery then they did and we made them cry and run. If u watch the monte melkonyan interviews Federate posted on the Monte Melkonyan thread you'll see him say that the azeris got weapons from ukraine and the only weapons we had were weapons we took from the azeris.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
        Are u talking about this video?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTQg3jOKnYg
        Yea, thanks.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Pazooki View Post
          Yea, thanks.
          no problem

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Pazooki View Post
            Thanks Nine, but I remember seeing a video on youtube where Fedayi shot down a moving Azeri jet. Can't find it though.
            In this video an azeri jet is also shut down(it's about Russian Mercenaries in the azeri army):
            Azerbaijan's air force was composed of forty-five combat aircraft which were often piloted by experienced Russian and Ukrainian mercenaries from the former S...

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Karabed View Post
              In this video an azeri jet is also shut down(it's about Russian Mercenaries in the azeri army):
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9Pf2bvV7E
              it becomes infuriating when azeris claim they fought alone and the Russians only helped the Armenians and thats why the Armenians won. There is so much evidence that points to the fact that the azeris bought mercenaries, there r countless interviews with prisoners that say the azeris paid them to fight and bomb innocent people.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                These missionary pilots are lucky they ended up ejecting into Armenian territory. Personally I think they are the scum of the earth especially the ones willingly take on sorties on civilian targets for financial gain (as an Aviator there is no excuse for such dishonor) these must be dealt with "extreme prejudice"

                To me not so much that they took on the mission but for ejecting like a coward and not riding it all the way to the ground. If they would have survived the crash then they would have deserved such treatments that they received from the Armenians.

                There are certain places that....................as much as I hate to do it, I have to draw a line.
                B0zkurt Hunter

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Finally, some good news.
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                  House panel maintains aid level for Armenia
                  17.06.2009 21:18 GMT+04:00

                  /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The House Appropriations Subcommittee responsible for U.S. foreign aid policy, this morning, voted to maintain U.S. economic assistance to Armenia at last year's level of $48 million and to increase humanitarian assistance to Nagorno Karabakh to an unprecedented annual allocation of $10 million, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).

                  The Subcommittee voted to maintain military assistance parity to Armenia and Azerbaijan, keeping foreign military financing to both countries at $3 million. The panel chose not to accept President Obama's proposals, included in the FY10 budget that he released earlier this year, to reduce economic aid to Armenia by 38%, from $48 million $30 million, and to tilt the military aid balance in favor of Azerbaijan.

                  The Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs, which is chaired by Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY), also strengthened language governing the President's authority to waive Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act, a provision of law that restricts aid to Azerbaijan due to its blockades and other offensive actions against Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh. The new language, according those close to the work of the subcommittee, will require closer Congressional consultation prior to any future waivers of this law.

                  "We value Chairwoman Lowey's leadership and the efforts of Rep. Adam Schiff, Armenian Caucus Co-Chairman Mark Kirk, Representatives Steve Rothman, Jesse Jackson Jr, Betty McCollum, Barbara Lee, Steve Israel, and our many friends on the Subcommittee for constructively working to address our community's foreign aid priorities," said ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian. "We are gratified that the panel restored military aid parity, met the Armenian Caucus request of $10 million for Nagorno Karabakh, and strengthened the waiver language for Section 907. We will, in the coming days, seek to build on this progress by working with our friends on the Senate side to bring the economic aid figure to Armenia up to the $70 million level requested by the Armenian Caucus."

                  In an April 3, 2009 letter sent to the panel earlier this year, members of the Armenian Caucus, co-chaired by Representatives Frank Pallone and Mark Kirk, called for strengthening Section 907, allocating $70 million in economic aid to Armenia, $5million in assistance to Armenia's military, $10 million in development aid to Nagorno Karabakh, and the removal of official barriers to U.S.-Nagorno Karabakh contacts and communications.

                  Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Finally some actual good news, let's hope
                    Armenia puts good use into the money that
                    is being given to them. If all goes well, Armenia
                    should work more on strengthening its military,
                    and in the mean time strenghtening its economy.
                    The same should be done with in Karabakh.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Territorial integrity does not mean inalterability of borders, Armenia’s Deputy FM stated
                      18.06.2009 11:44
                      There have been statements following the meeting of the Armenian and Azerbaijani Presidents in Saint Petersburg that there is certain progress towards the settlement of the Karabakh issue. Asked to comment on this, the Deputy Foreign Minister of Armenia, Shavarsh Kocharyan said: “Over years we have been hearing about “open windows” and “golden opportunities.” The fact that no real progress has been registered has its reasons: it is the non-constructive position of Azerbaijan. On one hand the Azeri authorities threaten to apply military force, on the other hand they sign a declaration on non-use of force. On one hand they deny the existence of the “Madrid Document,” on the other hand they declare that Azerbaijan has adopted the “Madrid Document.” On one hand they sit at the bargaining table, on the other hand they are busy with transferring the issue to other international structures and searching for mediators,” Shavarsh Kocharyan said in an interview with "Aravot" daily.

                      Shavarsh Kocharyan considers that the predictions about the rapid solution of the issue are groundless. “Such statements pursue certain internal political purposes. It’s not serious to think that such a complicated situation could be settled with just one step. It’s impossible. Of course, there may be some documents in the future that will reflect the initial approaches, but the parties are not ready for that today,” the deputy Foreign Minister declared.

                      According to him, Azerbaijan lays the emphasis on territorial integrity. “However, in case of self-determination, territorial integrity does not mean inalterability of borders. All the states and international structures involved in the settlement process have been declaring about the necessity of applying all three principles of international law, i.e. self-determination, territorial integrity and non-use of force.”

                      The solution proposed by Azerbaijan envisages autonomy for Nagorno Karabakh within the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan. “Naturally, it is impossible and Azerbaijan has to realize that there is no way back. No one will yield security guarantees in exchange for vague promises. As for the referendum, it was held still in 1991 in accordance with the norms of international law and USSR legislation; Nagorno Karabakh is a de facto full-fledged state. The mediators suggest a new referendum as an option of mutual concessions. It will be worth speaking about a new referendum only when Azerbaijan stops using the negotiations as a cover for imposing unrealistic approaches, which means accepting Nagorno Karabakh as a full party to the talks. It’s impossible to reach a solution bypassing the status of NKR.

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